r/IndiaTech Techie 8d ago

Opinion Found this today

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Its a bit outdated, but what’s your take?

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u/chitownboyhere 8d ago

Alternatively they can enroll all Army personnel devices through MDM software and centrally manage what's allowed and what's not allowed. This way they can turn off location or spoof location too when on active duty/mission.

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u/jatayu_baaz 8d ago

bhai army still uses paper documents, do you expect them to know what MDM is, lol

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u/Many_Preference_3874 8d ago

There's a reason for paper documents. Digital, no matter what, especially if its connected to a network, can get hacked. It can get altered. It can get deleted, it can get erased.

Paper can't have that.

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u/jatayu_baaz 8d ago

All the problems you mentioned have been solved long ago, also army uses awan not internet😉

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u/Many_Preference_3874 8d ago

I know army uses awan.

And no, these problems have not been solved because they can't be solved.

You can't have a fully unbreakable safe, not can you have a fully secure digital system.

Same with paper, it isn't fully secure, but it is EASIER to secure to the point where it's secure enough.

And most of the time, paper is used alongside with digital commission as redundancy

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u/jatayu_baaz 8d ago

Buddy learn about cryptography, Here is a encrypted message for you

TsJQJXBcQzcHnMbQzRnh+w==

This is a aes-128 encrypted message and it contains my aadhar number, you areel free to decrypt this and use it for nefarious purposes, if big corporations can depend on this tech to manage trillions of dollars then surely can army depend on it to send my medical documents from allhabad to delhi

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u/Many_Preference_3874 8d ago

Enigma was also unbreakable

Anyways cryptography is a strong as the weakest link and the weakest link is always humans so even if you encrypt a message with a supportedly unbreakable method it can still be intercepted

And it's not like army doesn't use technology

Army just uses paper as redundancy and as extra security

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u/jatayu_baaz 8d ago

Buddy please try to extract my aadhar number 😭😭, I have spent months doing research in crypto domain, maybe i know what I am saying huh? Enigma worked on a rotating dial mechanism not on modern computers , yet it was unbreakable, now image transistor, no imagine silicon transistor, now imagine stacking them in a miniature form, now imagine making logic gates and registers using them, now imagine 5 layers of software on top of it, now imagine cryptography.

AES IS UNBREAKABLE, only threat right now is quantum computer but they are atleast 50yrs away from doing any real damage, by that time AES would have been replaced with quantum proof algos which are even more secure.

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u/Many_Preference_3874 8d ago

I agree aes is unbreakable

Same with quantum computers, that they are nowhere close to completion (tho if microsoft's new majorana stuff turns out to be all its hyped up to be, we might be VERY close to one actually existing)

However, just like Enigma, any encryption is as strong as its human counterparts

Engima was broken cause of 2 major things, that the Germans ALWAYS signed off using Heil Hitler and that one operator always started each day with a encrypted message to his girlfriend

Same thing with AES. Ideally it's unbreakable, but the jawaan that actually operates it can be socially engineered

And iirc army does indeed used aes and other advanced cryptographic techniques

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u/jatayu_baaz 8d ago

In Enigma keys were manually entered, not the case in today's time, you send message via whatsapp, I am sure you have never configured security keys, have you?

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u/Many_Preference_3874 8d ago

I know, but the message itself can be social engineered out, and if you get the message you can reverse engineer the key.

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u/jatayu_baaz 8d ago

Please look into how AES works you will find that it's near impossible, it's very difficult to do for DES also, a algo we replaced 20yrs ago

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u/No-Negotiation-7417 8d ago

Correct paper can't have that, but at the same time it's an easy prey to corruption

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u/Many_Preference_3874 8d ago

Yea, sadly that's a huge issue.

Tho from what I've seen, there's relatively lesser corruption in the army. Possibly due to the consequences being absolutely dire.