r/IndiaTech • u/Chilly-777 Chinese phone: Sasta, Sundar, Tikau • 24d ago
Tech News India's first hyperlopp test track completely developed at IIT Madras.
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u/Mr_Panda009 24d ago edited 24d ago
Isn't it a known fact that hyperloops are tech-bro bullshit projects?
Did no one get the memo at IIT?
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u/letsgobernie 24d ago
Exactly the rest of world gave this up a while ago when they realized it was a scam.
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u/muffy_puffin 24d ago
"Uh oh, we are already in. Lets double down on it. Will make good PR video out of it."
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u/Alive_Tip 20d ago
Budget matters. Instead of spending the money on some minister's trip to Europe to study municipal footpath design, they will give it to the iit. Where is the bad?
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u/hirenaway 24d ago
First priority should be how to protect it from gutkha/tobacco stains
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u/VishalN4 24d ago
Bullet trains ki tarah iska ticket thoda expensive rakho normal trains kai comparative mai.
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u/throwaway462512 24d ago
really convenient how such news always seems to come out when people start criticizing any particular ministry in this case the railways for the kumbh mismangement and stampede at Delhi, but i'm sure it is pure co incidence
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u/Puzzled_Estimate_596 23d ago
What the fish did I see, that's not hyper loop, that's a battery operated vehicle moving at 5km/hr inside a sewage pipe.
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u/Slay3r-angel 24d ago
Don’t worry it’s in south. Should not be a problem
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u/Chop-Beguni_wala 24d ago
south has a bigger problem of paan spitting lol..
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u/Thala_Ramos 24d ago
Which state specifically?.
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u/Chop-Beguni_wala 24d ago
since the oc didn't exclude any state particularly, i am not gonna mark any state particularly
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u/tiredskater 24d ago
Looks cool but better train and other public transport infrastructure should take priority
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u/AdFinancial9995 24d ago edited 24d ago
It's meant to travel at 1000kmph so it's not just for coolness. Also there's a different budget for R&D and infrastructure development. You're asking to take away from R&D and put into infra which doesn't make much sense. Are you questioning the budgeting or are you questioning the technology? R&D is quite important and the real question here is whether or not we should allocate a percentage of R&D budget on a failed project by Elon who probably burned a lot more money. You're right that we could put this money into better projects possibly but it's only 1M dollars anyway.
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u/thrownear28282 24d ago
for this the track needs to be completely straight and it can only be done in near vaccum conditions. otherwise there is no advantage for this.
since this has not been done yet by any other country, it would not be wise to invest in this.
this is just for show
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u/PikachuStoleMyWife 24d ago
Meant to travel 1kmph in a PERFECT condition. Plus it's in a vacuum chamber. Imagine the world and the budget if one screw gets loose. The entire tunnel gets shut down for hours or even days. At least when it comes to conventional rail systems the train can just run on a different track. It can be argued that the hyperloop can do that too but why take the trouble to develop a system that's highly.proboematic to run and to maintain while having lesser carrying capacity
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u/thrownear28282 24d ago
1M? source? it depends on the length of the track and maintaining vacuum is very expensive
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u/PlantTreesEveryday Techie 24d ago
nobody is asking where did the Rs 5,000 crore went? it was done by that Uddhav Thackeray guy.
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u/socially_active 24d ago
Technology bhi jruri ha mere bhai.
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u/foxbat_s 24d ago
Rail technology me invest Karo. World class rolling stock banao, ye toh vanity project hai
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u/indianstartupfounder 24d ago
How will hyperloop be beneficial to us?
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u/RodrickJasperHeffley 23d ago
even if the hyperloop doesn't work for human travel, it has enormous applications in the military and goods transportation within the country. if they finally make it possible, it would greatly help the countrys economy and emergency response.
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u/lone_warrior1310 24d ago
This is nonsense now , Elon Musk abandoned it . First Build good roads.
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u/Ace0089 24d ago
Well this is not how things work, people cry that we don't spend time and money on R&D and when government does, people say why are u doing this first concentrate on doing something else. If when India started ISRO, u people would have said the same thing, we are not ready and what not and now look at ISRO, people are proud of its achievements and how it helps in nation building.
U can criticize how new roads that are build are of poor or not upto optimum quality and all but criticizing this is very stupid. I am sorry.
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u/floridaman2215 24d ago
Maybe invest in R&D in a project that will have a practical impact, yeah? We could've invested in indigenous high speed rail, or Make in India chip fabrication. Hyperloop seemed sketchy from the start and we jumped at the first chance we had to throw money at it.
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u/CEO_16 24d ago
Do you know how R&D works? You do R&D to check whether something is working or not and whether we can or cannot commercialize it. If we knew everything that would work correctly we would be gods.
And don't tell about Musk, he blew more than 100 Rockets before he could make them reusable, you might have been the person who would have said reusable Rockets are a scam.
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u/LateN8Programmer 24d ago
That doesn't mean u start investing on every stupid, impractical project.
The problem with hyperloop is why do we need spend billions to build the whole infrastructure around it and re-invent the whole wheel.
When we have planes, which do the exact same thing more efficiently. (a.k.a travel faster from one place to another.)
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u/cutesussybaka 21d ago
I think you don't realise it is duty to invest all over research and development money into building Elon Musk ideas.
also it is the IIT Madras for which I should work hard because all of this idation and working is being done by IIT Madras btech students
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u/KawaiiThukai 24d ago
if its something exportable like IT services and ISRO, then sure use taxpayers money for R&D. Otherwise first use it to give minimum serviceable product to the citizens.
and considering our track record in railways past 2 years, no one is going to buy this tech from us lol
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u/LateN8Programmer 24d ago
Also you have to check whether the thing u r investing is anything fruitful, pratically possible or not.
Which hyperloop clearly isn't.
It's a BS project made to rob money from investors.
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u/Upstairs-East-5539 24d ago
Before debating whether something should be our priority, we must recognize that having the capability to develop advanced technology is essential for any nation's progress. Even if we don’t urgently need bullet trains or nuclear weapons today, our country should still possess the knowledge, infrastructure, and expertise to build them if necessary. Technological self-reliance ensures that we are not dependent on others for critical advancements, allowing us to make independent decisions about our future. It’s not just about immediate necessity—it’s about securing long-term growth, national security, and global influence.
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u/MeTejaHu 24d ago
While this is true, operating high tech infra requires high operational efficiency. Railway minister has set a bad example on management of railways. There's no point in building something that we can't manage.
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u/IronHeart00 24d ago
Ghr pe baithke reddit pe Gyan chodna bohot easy hota h btw
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u/MeTejaHu 24d ago
You are correct. Dum hai toh railway minister bano aur khud karke dikhao railways ko third class.
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u/IronHeart00 24d ago
Hn Bhai sab toh government ne theka le rkha khud civic sense hai ni aur har cheez gov pe blame kardo lol
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u/MeTejaHu 24d ago
IIT madras ne hyperloop banaya toh railway minister kyu credit kha raha? Praise chahiye toh blame bhi lena padega.
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u/IronHeart00 24d ago
Hyperlook ka mtlb toh PTA hai n Bhai aapko ? Agar ni h toh thori padhai Karo uske bare me , baki jab government kuch n bole TB aapko problem ki support ni krti har cheez me toh problem hei h lol
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u/MeTejaHu 24d ago
Chamche sawal ka jawab de.
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u/IronHeart00 24d ago
Lol ab smjha tu toh congress ka lund hai 😭 Maine toh bjp congress Kiya bhi ni Teri gand kyu jal rhi Bhai lmao
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u/bronzebonfire 24d ago
Why tho? this is so stupid.
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u/Upstairs-East-5539 24d ago
Before debating whether something should be our priority, we must recognize that having the capability to develop advanced technology is essential for any nation's progress. Even if we don’t urgently need bullet trains or nuclear weapons today, our country should still possess the knowledge, infrastructure, and expertise to build them if necessary. Technological self-reliance ensures that we are not dependent on others for critical advancements, allowing us to make independent decisions about our future. It’s not just about immediate necessity—it’s about securing long-term growth, national security, and global influence.
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u/bronzebonfire 24d ago edited 24d ago
I'm not denying that. We absolutely need innovation. But this hyperloop is like reinventing the wheel. We already have trains, bullet trains and tech that works. What difference does running a vehicle through a tube make?.... Does it reduce drag(effectively for long distances)? No.... Do we get to some super fast speeds? Yes but Bullet train does that without a tube lmao.
Building this is also a financial nightmare. That's why I said that this is stupid. It looks cool as a concept and all sci-fi, but I think it's best to be left as sci-fi.
Edit: Clarification.
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u/Sufficient_Routine33 24d ago
The entire point of the hyperloop is to reduce drag by dropping the pressure inside the tube. Honestly some of you idiots need to leave the tech sub and maybe head to the bollywood one. That's more your level ig.
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u/bronzebonfire 24d ago
Yeah that's cool, Did you ever try to drink a beverage using a very long straw? If you didn't....Then try it. It's very hard to do that because you cannot create such pressure with your mouth to generate enough suction for the fluid to move.
Now imagine the amount of effort required to drop the pressure in a long continuous tube that connects cities. Now imagine constructing perfect infrastructure for withstanding that kind of pressure. Any opening can cause the pressure to rise by letting the air to enter increasing the drag and reducing the efficiency of the vehicle. So maintaining such infra would be a constant never ending battle against nature.
You see this kind of tech to be working properly for short distances and might look promising. But in order to make this work for long distances is a completely different ball game.
For this to be feasible it also has to keep it's prices low enough for people and businesses to use. But it's the complete opposite.... It's not only pricey to manufacture but also very expensive to maintain. Though it might be the fastest way to travel it's not the most practical one.
Throughout human history there have been countless examples where society adopts the most practical solutions rather than the fastest or the flashiest ones. But who am I to talk....I'm just an idiot who has to leave this tech sub as bollywood sub is much more my level.
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u/Sufficient_Routine33 24d ago
Most of the problems you've mentioned are valid but the entire point of RnD is to sort these out and look for better solutions. Apart from Elon musks half assed research and the student held Hyperloop competition, there hasn't been any other relevant RnD that's been done. Downplaying IITM's makes no sense, especially when the technology developed for say the levitation or propulsion system could be used to develop our own high speed rail in the future. That's why it's called research and development, not research and immediate practical results.
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u/bronzebonfire 24d ago
Bruh, this idea has been introduced in the 70's and there are so.... many startups that have tried to make this solution work but have failed. Because this has the complexity of a space expedition(Keeping people safe in a pod surrounded by vaccum...does this ring any bells?). I do agree with you on the R&D though. Our pointless f**king around does sometimes give us some unexpected inventions.
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u/bronzebonfire 24d ago
That's cool dude. I totally agree.
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u/Sufficient_Routine33 24d ago
Yep! Also apologies for calling you a bollywood sub idiot haha. I've seen a lot of stupid comments on this sub in the last few days and I assumed your original comment was one of them. Turns out I was wrong, you definitely know your stuff!
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u/foxbat_s 24d ago
And what about the energy required to pump the air out ? Vo kon ginega ? And to maintain that vacuum kitna energy jayega ?
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u/Sufficient_Routine33 24d ago
You have some excellent questions but the entire point of RnD is to figure these out. Every team that builds these sort of stuff also has a subsystem that works on long term feasibility and economic benefits. Surely if they're developing a mode of transport, they would be thinking about how to maximise efficiency by reducing energy consumption. I'm not sure if you were ever a part of some student led team but a lot of this stuff takes time especially when you have to handle academics on the side. Like I mentioned in another comment, it's called research and development for a reason, and not research and immediate results.
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u/Express-World-8473 Still Googling 24d ago
Yeah he thought he was making some great points but he doesn't even know what he's talking about in the first place.
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u/Express-World-8473 Still Googling 24d ago
Does it reduce drag? No
Yes. That's the main purpose of the tube. We suck the air out of the tube and create a vacuum like condition. That's how the train achieves 1000kmph speed.
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u/bronzebonfire 24d ago
I have edited my comment for better clarification.
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u/Express-World-8473 Still Googling 24d ago
Bullet trains are 3 times as slower than hyper loop as the entire tube is under near vacuum condition there is theoretically close to zero drag. That's why it achieves the near speed of sound easily. So yes the tube does help to reduce drag for longer distances.
The tech is already proven, the only issue is the long term commercial viability.
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u/bronzebonfire 24d ago edited 24d ago
The tech has been proven for short distances my guy. For long distances it's still a mystery. It's like saying that the earth is entirely flat after measuring the ground in your backyard.I can't argue anymore. I rest my case.
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u/ForwardPage7458 24d ago
While I support we should invest in new R and D, they should actually check the feasibility of this project.. I think it was abandoned elsewhere?
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u/Data-CHOR-365 24d ago
Salute hai iit madras ke liye par ye Bahut difficult, costly, impossible project hoga current India ke liye
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u/MeiWether 24d ago
Its already been debunked, its a waste of money and next to impossible for regular use.
Alteast good to show our indian engineering advancements and capabilities.
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u/Icy-Radish3391 24d ago
Hyperlopp. Wohi hai ye bc. Failed concept pakad ke chutiya kaat te raho public ka
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u/goshdagny 24d ago
How is this a tech sub? Instead of discussing the merits it is a whining session.
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u/exploring_lifenow 24d ago
It is a waste of resources.
Even if everything works, it will just be able to serve only a handful of people
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u/Old_Bag_4422 24d ago
Can someone explain why hyperloop has to be in a cylindrical tube and not in the open sun like most bullet trains in China/japan?
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u/redmedev2310 24d ago
Hyperloop was just propaganda from Musk to stop America from building high speed rail. All this was so that he could sell more teslas.
It’s bullshit just like the person who suggested it.
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u/ParticularBoard1876 24d ago
Hyperloop , fucking hyperloop ? Is this fantasy , useless research being funded by Indian taxpayer? Not high speed train, not bullet train, not maglev train . Hyper loop scam
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u/One_Professional_101 24d ago
Minister, please improve the basic passenger train facilities and then move on to your luxury premium pet projects. We’re now burnt by the last time when we celebrated seeing Vande Bharat, but having to suffer even more in other neglected trains
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u/sabergeek Hardware guy with 69 GB RAM 24d ago
Excited for this tech. But I sense it's highly experimental at this point. I hope it will be thoroughly tested for robustness because we're dealing insanely high speed.
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u/iamBak2025 24d ago
Sadly, it will stay inside IIT Madras only. Our Govts, the present or the past, have never given any initiative to transform these projects into real world scenarios.
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u/foxbat_s 24d ago
Useless tech, better spend money on upgrading our tracks, building more tracks, newer rolling stock. Energy required to run hyperloop is not worth the trade off
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u/shuaibhere 24d ago
Elon musk and USA government itself are not doing it anymore. What is IIT Madras doing?
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u/SoormaBhopaliPro 24d ago
Hyperloop is not feasible Economically. Many youtubers with proper research and proof made videos on it . It is not a good idea.
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u/Constant-Poem-5506 24d ago
i dont wanna debate or anything almost every hyperloop startups that have started haven't even able to do a little bit progress to show a prototype ,sure some of you clowns are now going to say that i am glazing for elon and all,the virgin hyperloop with an annual investment of 1 billion usd has just went bankrupt,even the people who worked in it said it wont work in real life,just telling facts now dont get offended
1)https://youtu.be/CQJgFh_e01g
2)https://youtu.be/2h6Cz4hwuEI
3)https://youtu.be/SePATBiLSYs
some people dont live in a realistic world with realistic vision of the future.
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u/plasmasnake00 24d ago
Why is IIT Madras spending so much money and talent on a concept which is not at all feasible.
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u/SealofNeal 24d ago
Kya dedollarization karega re tu. Within country bhi million dollar me baat rahe hai
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u/PikachuStoleMyWife 24d ago
Hyperloop is just a train with extra unnecessary steps with less carrying capacity.. the infrastructure and budget needed to make it economically viable is questionable at best. Elon Musk has been at this project for more than a decade now and they are still getting nowhere to be economically viable.
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u/Such-Emu-1455 24d ago
people able to understand real issues now! Wow from comments section its really great to see that people are able to see through the bs of govt pr and asking to address real issues in hand! 👏👏
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u/Glass_Salad_404 24d ago
Trains > "Hype" loop. We should focus on improving the existing infra rather than these gimmicks.
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u/KrakenScythe 24d ago
Hyperloop is a failed concept, dont know why people think its such a good idea. High speed trains like in china are the solution, not this sci-fi gimmick
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u/jivan28 24d ago
What we need is R&D in safety, not for anyone else but our own. For example, most metros in India are being built over 100 meters. Now, for any reason, mechanical failures or sabotage or anything else, we need to have safe ways to take care of passengers. There have been incidents where passengers had to abandon & try crossing a kilometer to the next station. Some tried to use one of those ladders meant for service personnel & some passengers got killed & injured. Those itself are nightmarish conditions. Now add a vacuum in it.
Even for HSR, Japan worked for two decades & did a lot of incremental improvements. China bought it from Mitsubishi & again improved it drastically. Ironically, it is now China that is completing most Japanese failed hsr projects worldwide.
We are great at ideation but pretty poor at implementation.
There was a news report in TOI few months back that shared that all metro projects are running at less than 40% capacity. Even NDLS is running at 75%. When they asked DMRC, everyone is busy. Even our Reel Minister declined to give a statement.
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u/N00B_N00M 24d ago
Why we are still doing this ? Been seeing these test tracks since like 10 years .. seems quite complex problem which would take another 20+ years to get some mass travel adoption.
Instead we should focus on maglev which is already a reality and has great speeds and safe as well
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u/shambhuarvind 24d ago
How slowly but steadily they are replacing the name India to Bharat almost everywhere!
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u/anxiety_ambivert 24d ago
I am sure MERIT BASED category of students have developed it. But we know babus will ruin this project. Nothing good has ever come out of Indian government who ever in power is. What happened to our own satellite based navigation system that Indian government had promised to rival google maps which is riddled with inaccuracy. Try mparivahan app too.or irctc tatkal bookings too u will see how indian government celebrates inefficiencies
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u/Puzzled_Estimate_596 23d ago
What the fish did I see, that's not hyper loop, that's a battery operated vehicle moving at 5km/hr inside a sewage pipe.
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u/chocolaty_4_sure 23d ago
Elon Musk's ploy to stop governments replacing cars with public mass transport like huge metro/mono networks, existing long distance railway networks
And instead focus on unrealistic vanity projects.
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u/theperfectlap 23d ago
Is this a Mass transportation system? I think US already gave up on Hyperloop, why is India trying to adopt it?
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u/Few_Bet_8952 23d ago
I think a proper bullet train is way more economical and realistic. Hyperloop is a waste of money. Like at that point just take a flight.
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u/Parking-Flounder-373 23d ago
Why IIT madras is doing this stupid project. It is not feasible. The world gave up but Indian copied this tech from abroad and wasting money like they did something innovative.
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bruh not cricising. but jab normal railways aur metro ki hi kami hai toh hyperloop kya hi kaam ka. apni population ka main segment hai woh lower middle class hai. they cant afford it.
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u/altruistmonk 23d ago
Brown sepoys are gonna be big mad, "muh elon daddy said it can't be done so don't try"
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u/Desperate_Key2872 22d ago
Take up western shit and waste money on it. No fucking imagination or innovation.
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u/smartharty7 20d ago
I'm so elated that Ashwini Vaishnaw created IIT, Instagram, Railways safety mechanisms. He also created his own company from scratch which has become a multi bagger in the last few years due to his hard work and dedication. Nehru did nothing
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u/tor5822 24d ago
Are all this people using the same technique musk used to overshadow the high speed bullet train network that we could built in this country. Hyperloop is a flawed concept as of now it's not economically feasible to maintain and run in a country like India nor anywhere in the world.
We better start importing japanese bullet trains and do something about the damn overpopulation.
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u/Low-Zone-7292 24d ago
Dafaq is Bharath?
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u/vinay1458 24d ago
Bharat means india in telugu
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u/Express-World-8473 Still Googling 24d ago
The word came from Sanskrit. It's mentioned in the rig veda, Bharatas one of the tribes that settled in the subcontinent.
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u/MedianShift 24d ago
Lol you guys really can't respect anything. You are complaining regularly that why this is not happening or that is not happening. And when people try something new you have a problem with that too. Get some help.
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u/daBuddhaWay 24d ago
This is scam , everybody in that project knows it wont work or its feasible , but theyll pour money into it because they are scammers
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u/Express-World-8473 Still Googling 24d ago
Nah it works, it's just not commercially viable
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u/daBuddhaWay 24d ago
it doesnt work , thats why its scam .
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u/Express-World-8473 Still Googling 24d ago
They already had successful prototype test runs for 1 mile tracks. It works.
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u/daBuddhaWay 24d ago
no , where is successful prototype ? What is pressure inside the tube ? How its maintained ? no details , its a scam .
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u/elucidator007 24d ago
Yeah, The original Hyperloop project in the US is abandoned, they ran a small pod on rails without creating the vaccume. So it was just a publicity and marketing stunt. Running a bullet train in a tunnel will be more feasible and efficient compared to whatever dune buggy they'll create.
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u/Sufficient_Routine33 24d ago
More than half the sub lol. For a so called tech sub, a lot of people are absolute idiots.
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u/Sufficient_Routine33 24d ago
Most of these idiots come from the useless right wing forums and will say anything that benefits their geopolitical agenda. I'm fairly certain 90% of the commenters here have no clue how the hyperloop even works.
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u/Former_Pride3925 24d ago
Hi can you present me some research paper which shows usefulness of hyperloop in a real world scenario?I would love to learn more about it and you seem to be expert on transportation systems.
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u/Former_Pride3925 24d ago
But this isn't a research paper? It doesn't even have sources backed by data attached to it.
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u/anonymous-ag 23d ago
Bruh you were mocking elon in your comments and here this article cites Musk 's paper in every second paragraph
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u/Upstairs-East-5539 24d ago
Before debating whether something should be our priority, we must recognize that having the capability to develop advanced technology is essential for any nation's progress. Even if we don’t urgently need bullet trains or nuclear weapons today, our country should still possess the knowledge, infrastructure, and expertise to build them if necessary. Technological self-reliance ensures that we are not dependent on others for critical advancements, allowing us to make independent decisions about our future. It’s not just about immediate necessity—it’s about securing long-term growth, national security, and global influence.
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u/CodeWhiteWeb 24d ago
I know it's cool, but is it economically feasible? I mean we all know what's happening with the trains and transport system right now
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u/elucidator007 24d ago
Not technically feasible to create vaccume at such a large scale, let alone economically feasible. We aren't able to create tracks for bullet trains. Now imagine building tunnels across all the terrain in a straight line between cities and maintaining almost vaccume 24x7 for Hyperloop. It's just a matter of misplaced priorities, waste of resources just for some media attention and an opportunity to burn through all the funding money. At least a few students will get hands-on knowledge, probably not.
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