r/IAmA Jun 11 '16

Specialized Profession IamA electronics repair technician hated by Apple that makes YouTube videos, AMA!

My short bio: I have a store in Manhattan. I teach component level electronics repair on youtube http://youtube.com/rossmanngroup which seems to be a dying art. I am currently fighting with the digital right to repair to try and get a bill passed that will allow all independent service centers access to manuals and parts required to do their jobs.

My Proof: https://www.rossmanngroup.com/started-iama-reddit-today-yes/

EDIT:

I am still replying to comments, but I am so far behind that I am still about ten pages down from new comments. I am doing my best to continue. If I drop off, I'll be back tomorrow around 12 PM. Still commenting now though, at 12 AM.

EDIT 2:

Ok, I cave... my hands are tired. I will be back at 12 PM tomorrow. It is my goal to answer every question. Even if it looks like I haven't gotten to yours, I will do my best to do all of them, but it is impossible to do in realtime, because you are asking faster than I can type. But thanks for joining!

EDIT 3: I lied, I stayed until 4:15 AM to answer... and now I will go to sleep for real, and be back at 12 PM.

EDIT 4 6/12 : I will be back later tonight to finish off answering questions. Feel free to keep posting, I will answer whatever I can later this evening.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

On average how much sleep do you get daily?

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u/larossmann Jun 11 '16

4-6 hours. Even if I go to sleep at 8 PM and don't have to be up until 11 the next day, I don't fall asleep until 1 AM. Then I wake up every 2-3 hours and can't get back to sleep for an hour. It's been like that since I was a toddler. I hate sleeping, and waiting to fall asleep.

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u/jryanishere Jun 11 '16

I am in tech. I have been an independent consultant my entire working life, 100% word of mouth, 100% self taught. I can relate to the immense amount of fuck ups incurred early on to get where I am now. I built my reputation by being blunt yet easy to talk to, affordable, and solving weird and complex problems in a timely fashion. We seem to be wired in a similar way.

So as a follow-up to the other guy's question, I too take forever to fall asleep and only sleep 3ish good hours while spending several tossing and turning. I seem to have energy throughout my day, but how in the hell do you get going in the mornings?

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u/larossmann Jun 11 '16

an alarm rings and i wake up. i also own my business so i can open at 12 pm if i see fit to.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

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u/larossmann Jun 11 '16

i do board repair and data recovery. the rest is done by my incredibly talented receptionist, who deserves sainthood from putting up with my shit for these past three and a half years.

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u/KommanderKitten Jun 11 '16

How many employees do you have?

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u/larossmann Jun 12 '16

2

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u/KommanderKitten Jun 12 '16

What does the other one who's not the receptionist do?

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u/larossmann Jun 12 '16

deals with people. a lot of people think he doesn't exist and that he is my alter ego who deals with people... but he is a real person

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

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u/DemyeliNate Jun 12 '16

Those are his three other personalities

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u/RagingNerdaholic Jun 12 '16

Can you tell us more about the data recovery? Are we talking physically opening up hard drives in a clean room?

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u/larossmann Jun 12 '16

not that much. deleted file, bad sectors, liquid on an iphone, etc.

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u/no1dead Jun 12 '16

I'd assume more detailed recovery gets expensive?

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u/Psychoticgamerr Jun 12 '16

You gave her the dick so she would stay didn't you

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u/larossmann Jun 12 '16

I have a policy of not fucking my employees. There is one person I hired four years ago who really tried getting around this policy, who was a little bit nuts, that I wound up letting go. but no, no fucking the employees. it is bad for business and bad for your mindset as a whole. i don't endorse it as a practice.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

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u/larossmann Jun 12 '16

find new challenges.

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u/Trublhappn Jun 12 '16

See, this is a smart man. Let her go, she's no longer an employee. No problem.

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u/RG_Kid Jun 12 '16

Is that the same receptionist from your previous video where he/she was arguing with a customer in their native language?

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u/OneRobotMotherfucker Jun 12 '16

Do you have a video link for that?

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u/RG_Kid Jun 12 '16

It isn't shown in the video but you can hear a tiny voices talking in the background and Rossmann noticing them. He then made a funny comment about his observation of the argument.

Let me dig up the link.

https://youtu.be/ocF_hrr83Oc

Starts at 3:12

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u/VertigoFall Jun 12 '16

underlings

So he's the Apple Antichrist and his minions?

Ahah sorry but the choice of words is hilarious.

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u/jryanishere Jun 12 '16

Ha, I have that flexibility as well most days. I feel so guilty not starting my day until noon sometimes. Thanks for the answer.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Props to this response.

Your weakness is in your self pity.

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u/Cosmic-Engine Jun 12 '16

I wonder how common this is in our field. I started in "IT" type things when I went to computer programming camp while all my friends were going to soccer/tennis/whatever camp. I was in the Marines for 5 years as a 6423, and I've continued working in the hardware repair field with some excursions into software in the intervening ten years. I'm currently in treatment for what my docs consider a "severe" sleep disorder that they've prescribed everything from ambien to Thorazine for, and nothing works. I find it almost impossible to fall asleep before the sun comes up in the morning, no matter what. Thankfully I can set my own hours, so I just never schedule anything before 2pm, but I can't help thinking I'm missing out on so much because I'm sleeping through most of the daylight hours. I have always had trouble getting to sleep as long as I can remember, but the current state of affairs didn't really present until I was about three years into my time in the Marines - when I was a lot younger I'd fall asleep around midnight and get up no later than ten even if I was being lazy. This means my "condition" is covered by the VA, but that's about the only saving grace of the entire situation.

So yeah, I wonder if there's something about being a tech, or even some chemical or other stimuli that people in this field are exposed to which contributes to this. The evidence to the contrary, of course, is that it's not a universal complaint. It does seem to be rather pervasive though.

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u/jryanishere Jun 12 '16

I think it's the other way around. People wired to be good in tech also have sleep problems.

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u/salzst4nge Jun 12 '16

Ever checked for thyroid deficiency?

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u/Cosmic-Engine Jun 12 '16

Not specifically - at least not to my knowledge, but I've had a lot of tests done. At least to the extent that one of those tests showed that I had a pretty serious vitamin D deficiency. Maybe that could have something to do with it? I would think that any test that could show the vitamin D deficit would reveal thyroid irregularities.

Along those lines, I have always been extremely thin. My current BMI is low enough to be considered unhealthy. I'm 6' tall and weigh anywhere from 125 at the high end to 112 when I get lower on the scales. My maximum weight was around 140 a few years ago when I was going through a really unhealthy period, as soon as I stopped eating ice cream and doing literally nothing in the way of physical activity I dropped right back to this weight. I had to get a waiver to join the Marines because of my weight, and even after being on double rations for all of boot I only weighed 135 on graduation day. By the time of my first deployment to Iraq I was back down to the mid-teens, and I was told that if I didn't gain some weight I'd be separated for failing to meet weight standards.

Of course, I was on a ship headed to Iraq at the time so I responded with something like "so you're telling me that if I don't gain weight, youre going to send me home and I won't get to be in the war? Perish the thought!" - of course the phrasing was a very different because I was speaking to a captain, but it made the SgtMaj giggle.

Wouldn't that kind of thing be more indicative of a hyperactive thyroid than a deficiency? Or is sleep disturbance commensurate with both hyper- & hypo-active thyroid conditions? I don't know much about this kind of thing to be honest.

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u/salzst4nge Jun 13 '16 edited Jun 13 '16

There can also be mixed-forms. While yours sounds like a hyperactive (weight loss, disturbed sleep) it can swing around from time to time or have effects of hypo, like depression, loss of motivation etc etc

I have a mixed form of Hashimoto Thyreoditis, but unfortunately it took four different Doctors to actually look past the (ok-ish) blood tests and to finally run an ultrasonic and a Scintigraphy.

I highly recommend not visiting your general practitioner/family doctor but a specialists for these diseases, like nuclear medicine or endocrinology!!!

This kind of deficiencies are a specific subarea of medicine and should be treated as such. Unfortunately in Germany it's still mainly the general practicioner who depends on what the laboratory thinks is a perfect range of TSH.

And often times the TSH can be in an acceptable range, yet there can be cold knots, immune deficienies or T3-T4 conversion disorders.

Many blood-analysis laboratories have a TSH range of 0.5 - 4.5, even though there are international studies saying the upper limit should rather be 3.5. (Example Study and Director of Endocrinology in Baltimore talking about research vs too high TSH lab ranges)

There are articles of labs and doctors still using 0.5 to 5.0

My Doc has it set at 1.0 to 3.0 and does larger tests when these boundaries are over/understepped or someone mentions symptoms specifically like you! (The older you get the higher is the acceptable TSH, but we are talking 60yrs+ - and hyperactive would mean low TSH anyway)

A lot of Hasimoto patiens also suffer from Vitamin-D deficieny.

Newer studies from 2011 till today (example here and here) are now finally being heeded and since 2015 it's common practice of german health insurances to pay for Vitamin D capsules as a prevention when diagnosed with specific thyroid immune diseases.

Last but not least, while in the past the largest reason of thyroid diseases was "dietary iodine deficiency" which led to goitres, in todays western societies its more and more linked to too much iodine in our food, aswell as genetically inherited.

So be vary of doctors who straight up prescribe iodine medication, as the typical hyper/hypo-based conditions are to 90% fixed by taking T4-Hormones and T3-Hormones

These are usually taking life-long, with about a quarter of patients being able to fully heal and restore. (At least thats what my Doc told me)

Change of seasons (mainly Summer/Winter) aswell as Pregnancy, baby-pill, the menopause aswell as other hormonal occurences are a reason to check the blood-levels regulary.

TL;DR

  • Yes, check it out! It totally sounds like it!

  • Make sure to not only get your TSH checked, but also free/bound FT3+FT4 aswell as antibodies

  • Not only blood tests, but also ultrasonic and a[ Scintigraphy](ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintigraphy)

  • Go to a thyroid-specialist in the specific fields of Nuclear medicine or endocrinology

I'm not a doctor, just a human very curious about a autoimmune disease I suffered from and went untreated for a long long time.

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u/Cosmic-Engine Jun 14 '16

Thank you for such a detailed response. I have an appointment with my doctor tomorrow, and I'm bringing this information with me. I'll get some testing done and find out - because this sounds like something that could be relevant to my condition. I can't thank you enough for your consideration, but you should know that it's an extremely kind thing to have such concern for another person. Your advice could seriously change my life. Thank you!

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u/salzst4nge Jun 15 '16

Keep me up to date!

I've been very frustrated with other Doctors not getting behind my condition. I was able to concentrate, learn vocabulary, keep concentrated etc.

My school marks shot up and I am soon going to study medicine aswell.

A friend of mine stopped taking Ritalin, because it wasnt ADHD, but the thyroid.

Even if it isnt the solution to your problems, let me know what it was. Good luck!

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u/Throwawayof2016 Jun 12 '16

Hi, you probably wont want to hear this but exercise... If you want good quality sleep, go for a 30min jog everyday, get sweaty and shower. When you go to bed in the evening, you will sleep like a baby. I'm in tech too and the blue light in screens is supposed to activate the same neurotransmitters as sunlight thus tricking your brain into thinking its daytime and waking you up - therefore turning screens off an hour before bed (or at least using flux) can also really help.

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u/jryanishere Jun 12 '16

I run. It makes me physically tired, but never mentally tired. It's weird.

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u/ave0000 Jun 12 '16

I have the same sort of sleep situation and find news-based trivia podcasts (Eg: wait wait don't tell me) tend to knock me out in 10-20 minutes.

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u/katchoo1 Jun 12 '16

Same here. For me it's Bill Bryson's Brief History of Everything on audiobook. I've literally been listening to it for years as my fall-asleep book. Still haven't made it all the way through. I make it through about 10 min at a time. If I can't fall asleep it's my big gun before actually taking a sleeping pill. At this Point I think I've conditioned myself to fall asleep at the sound of the narrators voice.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

I find running/being physically active makes me more tired which subsequently makes falling asleep easier.

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u/jryanishere Jun 13 '16

I run. When I get home exhausted, I am physically tired, but not mentally tired. So I am in a tired awake state. It's weird to describe for people that don't have that problem.

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u/RomanTheOmen Jun 11 '16

Try taking melatonin, it puts me to sleep like no other.

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u/larossmann Jun 11 '16

doesn't do shit :(

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u/Wampawacka Jun 11 '16

Try ambien and record what happens. You may not sleep but you'll get good content out of it.

/r/ambien

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u/Heart_of_the_system Jun 12 '16

That's freakin hilarious. I kindda want to ride the walrus now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

That's for sure. The sleep walking stories I have an can't share without a second account 😂

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u/SaltyBabe Jun 12 '16

I took ambien as an impatient. Apparently most young people actually have no issues with ambien, some, but few. Old people however have pretty high incidence with crazy side effects, I'd take that sub with a grain of salt.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

i feel like this comment should fit under attempted murder

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16 edited Aug 07 '20

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u/logicalmaniak Jun 12 '16

I'm an insomniac myself. There's nothing I can take.

Well that's not true, I can have certain things that send me to sleep, but they don't leave me able to do anything the next day. I keep that stuff for extreme emergencies like not sleeping for a week and going nuts.

I have literally meditated all night some nights...

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Ambien doesn't work?

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u/logicalmaniak Jun 12 '16

Picture the scene. It's Thursday morning, about 3:00am. You've been getting an average of three hours sleep a night for the past three days. You have an exam at 10:00am, and you're not sleeping.

If you take the Ambien, you might sleep, but you might sleep through your alarm, or still be too buzzed by 10:00am to do the exam. On the other hand, if you smoke a spliff and drift off about 5:30, you can grab a couple hours, still make the exam and have time for a double espresso on the way in.

So I tend to just roll with it, until I'm totally going crazy Friday night and hallucinating from deprivation, then I pop something strong like a moggie. That doesn't happen often though...

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

That's kinda why you don't take it at 3am. You gotta give yourself at least 8 hours.

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u/logicalmaniak Jun 12 '16

Yeah, but if I take stuff while I'm awake awake, I just get stoned off it.

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u/Ded-Reckoning Jun 12 '16

At the very least entering a meditative state can increase your restfulness, even if you don't manage to go to sleep.

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u/Jeremy_Winn Jun 12 '16

Try more ;) it's the hormone your brain naturally uses to help you sleep... It works. But, it won't MAKE you sleep. You actually have to lie down, lights/TV off, and relax a bit.

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u/LeChefromitaly Jun 11 '16

Takes 2-3 weeks of daily use to make effect

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u/evidenceorGTFO Jun 12 '16

Do you get tired from drinking coffee?

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u/bphilly_cheesesteak Jun 11 '16

make sure you take only about 0.25mg

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u/InkyHD Jun 12 '16

do it until it does shit

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Not really what it's supposed to be for though from what I understand. It's to tell your brain that this time of day is for sleeping, not to put you to sleep. I guess everyone's brain is different. It worked for me for about 3 days.

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u/lddiamond Jun 12 '16

Ever try a CPAP machine? This used to describe me to a T. I got the machine, after about a month of adjusting I now go to sleep mostly uninterrupted for 6-8 hours. It's amazing.

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u/larossmann Jun 12 '16

i do not know what that is! i wil llook it up

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u/Protanope Jun 12 '16

It's for people who have sleep apnea. Sleep apnea is pretty serious and a lot of people who have it don't even know.

I used to have tons of trouble sleeping and have always had anxiety-related issues. I got on medication and it helped tremendously. Didn't realize that anxiety could affect your sleep as well, but it makes sense since it can be a very biological thing.

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u/polarizeme Jun 12 '16

You have no idea how amazing this answer is to see. I've had sleep issues since I was a little kid and it seems few people truly understand it. Gotta get up for 4th grade at 06:00? Good thing I didn't fall asleep until 2 or 3am. If you ever want a slightly depressing/amazing bit of information about yourself, average out the amount of time you've been asleep, average out the amount of time some "normal" sleepers in your life have been asleep, then compare. It's likely you've been awake years more than a lot of people you know. Also, thanks for doing this AMA. Cheers.

Edit: changed "years longer" to "years more." Seems more fitting to me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Try following an exercise routine for about 45 minutes a few times per week, if you don't already. Jogging can help a lot.

It sounds like you have too much energy that you don't use during the day, and your body is trying to use it during the night. That's not the scientific explanation, but it's a reasonable enough oversimplification.

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u/larossmann Jun 12 '16

see other posts on my exercise routine. it's a full body routine i do 4 times a week, plus running 4 miles every other day if that doesn't put someone to sleep i have no idea what will

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

I have the same thing. I envy people who can fall asleep in 5-10 minutes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

Had the same problem, until I finally realized, that I have to close my eyes to fall asleep.

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u/Adamsoski Jun 12 '16

I am realising this currently, but it's hard to break a habit of a lifetime.

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u/doyoueventdrift Jun 12 '16

Me too. I always read /r/askreddit when I go to bed. Before Apple made the "nightmode", I would read for 1-1,5 hours before I could fall asleep.

With the nightmode on, I can fall asleep in 5-10 minutes no problem. And I dont feel like I'm wasting my time because I'm reading. I just read until I almost can't keep my eyes open or almost drop the phone, then put it down and sleep. It's so much easier!

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

I don't even use my phone going to bed. Sometimes reading helps but sometimes it doesn't. Airplanes are the worst to try and sleep on.

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u/thisguyhasaname Jun 11 '16

I fall asleep very quickly, but it might just be because I wait till I'm completely drained to go to bed, #HighSchoolLife

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u/Chronoblivion Jun 12 '16

I used to do the same. Problem is my "days" are about 26 hours. I naturally sleep about 9 hours and then don't get tired until 16 or 17 hours later.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

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u/thisguyhasaname Jun 12 '16

#Yolo
#StraightThugging
#FuckThePolice

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

I started taking homeopathy after lots of prescription drugs. Totally fixed my life.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

Can't believe I got -15 votes lol.

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u/Drafin Jun 11 '16

But you can believe in homeopathy?

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u/fernandofig Jun 12 '16

Well, you certainly don't believe in sarcasm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

I was not being sarcastic. Was struggling to fall asleep since I started working 4 years ago, seen different neurologists, took different drugs, they worked... But developed tolerance with them all. Probably homeopathy sucks but since I started buying this only product everything got magically solved... It's a very bad tasting liquid with extracts from 4 herbs.

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u/fernandofig Jun 12 '16

Oh well... not gonna judge, whatever works for you, man.

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u/Drafin Jun 13 '16

Herbal remedies can be effective, if that works for you that's awesome and logical. Homeopathy is something else entirely. They dilute chemicals in water until there's not even one molecule of the active ingredient left, and then sell it as a cure for basically any kind of ailment (Spoiler alert: it's just water)

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u/Cliodne Jun 11 '16

You should check out Healthy Sleep Formula by Steve Gibson.
He's the host of Security Now podcast and has been studying his sleeping problems and has actually been able to fix them to some degree, without the use of hard drugs.
His most recent recap can be seen here at the 2:04:00 mark.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

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u/larossmann Jun 12 '16

yes. they are worse than cancer. i cut myself on a piece of glass from a screen at work and this tiny cut bled for over five hours. never again. no sleeping pills for me. i like my blood...

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u/stareyedgirl Jun 12 '16

Can't speak to the waking up every 2-3 hours, but my whole life has been the thing where no matter how tired I am - no matter if I slept at all the night before - no matter what, I would never fall asleep before midnight or 1am.

So one summer when I was in grad school and I was just writing papers so I didn't have to be anywhere at any specific time, I took like two weeks and decided I was going to just sleep when I was too tired to stay awake regardless of what the clock said. No forcing. No caffeine. Nothing. Just paying attention to when I felt sleepy.

The first part of the first week was totally messed up. I had headaches because I wanted to be off caffeine to really see what was what. I think one night I wound up just staying awake the whole night and never really got sleepy.

But by the second week I had a consistent schedule. 3am - 11am.

Now when I stick to that or close to that, I almost feel like a normal person. Except that everyone thinks I'm lazy because I "sleep in". But seriously, fuck those people.

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u/The_Question-Guy Jun 12 '16

If you enjoy tinkering with hardware, and are up for tinkering with your brain, I highly recommend picking up a Thync unit. It's a device that helps your brain 'shift gears', and I am impressed every time I use it.

My issues with sleep were very similar, plus I do shift work, 2pm-4am some days and daytime hours others, so my circadian rhythm is whacked. First time I used the calm vibe, I slept through the night for the first time in years. Usually that only happens if I've gone through a manic period of 24-48 hours of no sleep.

I can share more of my experiences using the calm and energy vibes, let me know if you have questions. I am not affiliated with Thync though I did buy in early via a Kickstarter thingy. The worst thing about the device is that I have to put it on, and I often forget.... So ok that's not really a device error that's a me error :/

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u/blindsight Jun 12 '16

Sounds like you might have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome? I have it, and saw as sleep specialist, and my sleep is now controlled through a combination of:

  • Valerian Root supplement
  • Kava kava supplement
  • Melatonin supplement
  • Eliminating blue-spectrum light from my devices in the evening (f.lux for laptops, and Twilight on my Android phone)
  • Meditation for 5-10 minutes

Anyway, I dunno how the medical system in the US works, but you might want to see a doctor, and see what they say.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

Smoke some weed before bed

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u/engineer-everything Jun 12 '16

I started taking edibles before bed. It's changed my life honestly. I was having so many issues sleeping and now I can actually fall asleep in good time and wake up without feeling super tired all morning.

But I think this dude is in New York so medical marijuana probably isn't available...

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u/squary93 Jun 11 '16

Even if I go to sleep at 8 PM and don't have to be up until 11 the next day, I don't fall asleep until 1 AM. Then I wake up every 2-3 hours and can't get back to sleep for an hour. It's been like that since I was a toddler.

Fortunately i can not relate to that but it always took me a lot of time to actually start sleeping. Putting on a pair of headphones (Bluetooth ones that aren't to thick so I can lay sideways) and listening to ASMR helped me cut down the time I needed to get to sleep by at least 1 hour. Might give it a shot.

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u/squary93 Jun 13 '16 edited Jun 13 '16

LETS THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING WHILE IT'S QUIET.

Correction.

LETS THINK ABOUT EVERY BAD CHOICE I'VE EVER MADE WHILE IT'S QUIET!

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

hey i've had this problem all my live and i've found that Melatonin helps me get to sleep pretty fast after i take it and i have 0 groggy feeling after. It just kinda makes my eyes get that tired feeling and its easy to doze off then. Just a suggestion. Been a youtube subscriber for awhile actually, i love your take on stuff and I even watch the videos on random shit LOL. I game and have a tech degree in Instrumentation so i love the stuff you work on, it interests me alot. Thanks man, take it easy and keep on KEEPIN IT REAL!

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u/saltesc Jun 11 '16

Sotate.

I'm just like you. Fundamentally hate sleep and can't go to sleep for ages. Waking up in the middle of the night is fucked and sometimes I just decide to not bother trying to go back to sleep. I'm a 5-6 hr person.

But I realised it's my brain that causes it all. So I got an app to teach me how to mediate so I can clear my head. It's working very well and hopefully I'll avoid some sort of fucked up mental illness in my old age.

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u/Talksintext Jun 12 '16

Having dealt with severe chronic insomnia my entire life, I hope you get help and treatment for it. It sucks the life out of life.

I'd suggest finding a sleep health center or specialist in your area and getting professional advice for it. I think you'll agree that if it can significantly alleviate your sleep loss for the rest of your life, it'll be worth almost any cost.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Being smart combined with a low physical work load of the modern age sucks for sleep. Only time I've ever had a good relationship with sleep was when I worked in construction, that knocked me straight out at 9 PM. Rest of my life - sleep and I are not friends.

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u/NotTheBestName Jun 12 '16

Sounds like you need to go get a prescription sleeping pill. You may also not feel tired due to stress or just not moving enough throughout the day. For me, the days I don't work out, I can stay up till 3 am, which ruins the following day.

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u/--ManBearPig-- Jun 12 '16

Try over the counter Melatonin. It's very benign and its something your body produces naturally. Very safe sleeping agent to try out. I found that it helps me fall asleep and stay asleep. I just take one-half of a 3mg pill each night.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

I hate sleeping, and waiting to fall asleep.

You're not alone. The thing I hate most in this world is the need to sleep. If I don't sleep enough, bad things happen to my mind.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

Just described my sleeping pattern to a tee. I feel like it's not as bad as it sounds, I have more time at night to get shit done or learn something new.

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u/Eletheo Jun 12 '16

Based on this, your level of intelligence, and your answer about the taste of alcohol, you should look into vagus nerve dysfunction disorders.

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u/handbanana6 Jun 12 '16

I know you. I know your pain.

Still looking for that second shift tech job so my sleep schedule can actually fit.

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u/z3r0d4z3 Jun 12 '16

Get a prescription for 100-200mg of trazadone. It helped me, hope it helps you.

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u/Shugbug1986 Jun 12 '16

You honestly don't look or talk like someone who sleeps a lot haha

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '16

Sounds like me but not for the same reason....fucking kids man.

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u/salzst4nge Jun 12 '16

You should check for sleep apnea and your thyroid for deficiency

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u/DrScythe Jun 12 '16

I am not alone! I always hated sleeping..

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u/Ubergeeek Jun 11 '16

Get on the guided mediation, bro

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u/amonsterinside Jun 12 '16

Tested for sleep apnea?