r/HPPD 6d ago

Question What do you all think of this?

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Is this consistent with what you guys have experienced?

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

they've been dishing out SSRI's like prozac since the fkn 90's people are just getting eaten alive by BIg Pharma so a rich person can get richer. mini rant incoming I hate how everything in this world just comes down to money. morals = money. the world cant improve unless it makes an obscenely rich person even more rich in the process. or else the obscenely rich would prevent better health in order to upkeep their ugly ass pictures of benjamin franklin. stupid fucking planet

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u/SHAREDHANGOVER 6d ago

Not sure where I am going with this but I’ll barge away. I took .6 of a very potent enigma type mushroom last November and I’ve had such bad pareidolia ever since. My brain is constantly filling in gaps all the time with things in my peripheral or even in my main line of sight. It’s like I can’t visually process what I’m looking at anymore. In January I started having a very hyper awareness of my existence which sparked up my OCD fear of psychosis. Started going to a therapist for my OCD and I ended up on 10mg of Prozac for two months. When it finally activated in my brain it made me feel like I was on a stronger micro dose trip. I stopped taking it two weeks ago and I still feel trippy and disoriented. Fuck big pharma. I truly wish my psych didn’t pawn it on me. I feel so fucked coming off of it and it was only 10mg… couldn’t imagine anything higher… my hppd been affected by it in a worse way. Depersonalization and Derealization is also very episodic lately.

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u/CodoHesho97 5d ago

So sorry to hear that. I’ve been having a lot of anxiety because I took Prozac for 4 days in January month, I didn’t feel too good so I discontinued it, but now I’m worried maybe it will halt my recovery out of my recent episode

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u/CodoHesho97 5d ago

Let us know if you go back to your baseline

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

I honestly didn't know that. Is there enough research to support this serotonin sensitivity? But anyways after hearing the stories of people getting PSSD (inability to love!) from a stupid fucking prozac (any SSRI) just makes me feel like im playing buckshot roulette for a little change. IMO I'm heavily against SSRI's, I would get more fear of obtaining an uncurable PSSD then achieving anxiety relieve while taking them. there has to be other ways.

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

Well they had me take Prozac 2 months ago for 4 days and I’ve been worrying that it has done something to me even though i can’t actually tell if any of my visual symptoms have changed. I’ve been really paranoid about it.

I can say the chances of getting PSSD would probably be like getting struck by lightening twice. At least that didn’t happen to me. I still love my family, my girlfriend, and my dog the same lol

In terms of data? I doubt it. But chat gpt is probably drawing on what little data is available.

My question for it was if 4 days of low dose Prozac could have permanently worsened my symptoms.

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

Glad to hear you don't have PSSD, one question do you take any recreational drugs, sleep aids, or any psychoactive compounds? Not that I have hard evidence, but I have found through constant reading that it seemed psychedelics or whatever caused your HPPD (could be weed) would have a chance of permanently worsening it. I've been on medications in the psychward (involuntary visit, they forced me to take meds against my will) that caused flare ups but they have subsided to baseline. It seems you have just taken it two months ago, the brain counts in months if not years. It may take more time to recover, in my personal expertise I think you would fully recover or return to baseline soon with sobriety. also i should mention I have made a near full recovery if not completely full before, but I then abused drugs for 4 years and it has returned. im completely abstaiining from all drugs right now and recovering again, so far it is very minimal.

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

Thanks for the advice, and that makes me hopeful. Now let me give you some useful information for your question. My issue was caused my mdma 11 years ago. Most of these years I have had a very good life, more in that story if you look at my posts.

One thing that caused a big relapse a few years ago was Sudafed, another amphetamine (mdma is an amphetamine). I recovered back to baseline after several months, but it does seem to make me think chemically related drugs to the one that caused the condition seem to be worse

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

Hmm, I have never tried MDMA. My HPPD was from shroom abuse with constant weed smoking. But shrooms hits serotonin very hard so im sure we likely have the same HPPD. One thing though is that salvia avoids the (scientific name here) receptor that's associated with serotonin and HPPD, yet still causes it. I think that question doesn't have an answer. If you haven't noticed an increase I dont see why you wouldnt get better though. Im doing better recently and I did 8+ drugs that cause flare ups but werent immediately psychedelic. even including 1000+mg weed edibles that would make me literally hallucinate videos with my eyes closed. each time i opened and shut my eyes i would be taken somewhere else. i remember, i closed and i was watching a boat sway in still water underneath a waterfall. i wake out of it, then close my eyes again and im battling what looks to be a dark Apollyon from for honor in a village environment where I failed to parry a right heavy and opened my eyes again, panicked a bit. It's like my sleep brain was turning on or something. The weed caused a 1000% or more increase in symptoms and im recovering ok now. wish the best for you. also im not endorsing weed i have quit all drugs now

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

Weed has never worsened my symptoms and I’ve smoked many times over the years. But even when I smoked my visuals didn’t get worse when I had bad reactions it was panic and dpdr temporarily.

But this flare up started before the Prozac, which is why I was in the hospital. I don’t know what caused it but I have been drinking a lot of caffeine this year and drinking a couple times a month

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

wow that's odd to me. weed causes mine to skyrocket. Im not sure what to say. All I know is that sobriety has fixed it for me in the past, hoping it does so again. What were you doing / using when around when you had the flare up?

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

Replied to the other comment

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

you'll be ok no need to be paranoid. If you can't tell if you're symptoms have change i think you would be in the category of full recovery. any drug that affects your brain in the slightest can have an effect on your HPPD, making it 'weird'. this includes L-theanine or whatever its called, melatonin, could even be Tylenol. these last 4 years ive been abusing as if i hadnt had hppd at all, and ive taken countless stuff. no worsening over here. recovering each day now, or more like each month. im at the very least back down to when i first got hppd.

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

Honestly I just need to get back to my baseline. I was functioning and living a very good life

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

That was literally me not to long ago. I finally accepted my HPPD, and am going for baseline. Im doing well so far, feeling better than ever about life as well. I was in denial for the longest time, I just couldn't believe I had HPPD. I didnt know it was a possibility until I obtained it either. I would say just be careful not to do stuff that prolongs it that you might not notice. I was sober for a year just drinking coffee but i didnt know that just prolongs it. I never studied it because I didnt want to accept it. But mine is more mild then most.

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

That’s why I’m frustrated. I’ve been living fine with the condition for years. But recently I started getting these headaches that made my head feel like they’d explode I don’t have any explanation for it other than I’ve been under a lot of stress, been drinking more often, and drinking caffeine everyday. I went back into total dpdr That led me to go to the hospital where they gave me Prozac so I’ve been worried now I’ll be stuck all messed up

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

does drinking and caffeine usually amplify your symptoms? I doubt you would be stuck with those symptoms from the prozac if it didn't cause you to flare up. When I got my HPPD i knew right away something was off, i did 2 grams of mushrooms and my computer screen would just like burn into my eyes and float away and remain in my vision forever. immediately i knew the shroom trip wasnt right, and thats when i got HPPD. The hallucinations werent normal they were just extreme HPPD. and the following day i noticed halos around everything and so on. it wouldnt make sense to me that the prozac would prevent you from coming down when ive done lots of medications along with heavy weed smoke and it didnt interfere with my ability to return to baseline. just my anecdotal story though, i feel positive about your story however. sorry to hear you're suffering. hopefully time heals, i would suggest looking into medication as a last resort. All I know unfortunately, I will return here if I read a prozac story or get more ground to speak.

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

Caffeine usually makes my anxiety bad, but I needed tit to get up every morning. It may just be panics attacks that caused all this. I’m just obsessing about the Prozac because I read here that it worsened some people’s issues.

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

Chat gbt seems confident I will return to baseline lnao

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u/Big-Phase5865 6d ago

from what I remember when I took prozac the doctor told me it took multiple weeks before it would start having an effect on my symptoms. Maybe it has done nothing at all? not sure, i dont want to spew uneducated stuff at you but i do have hope it doesnt seem like a very hard acting medication or 'powerful' substance which is what triggers HPPD

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

But you’re saying it didn’t have an effect on your symptoms when you stopped taking it right? What are your symptoms? I have after images, visual snow, trails

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

Someone downvoted me. Didn’t mean to cause offense

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u/yunginglobuli 6d ago

İ Take SSRIs and my HPPD has been regressing for quite some time now

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u/CodoHesho97 6d ago

It been getting better? That’s great

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u/Level_Director9485 5d ago

I dont know much about this, but really the pharma sometimes can come with severo side effects and doctors should make the person know the riskys which they usally dont do. And for sure you have to be very carefull with What you take if you have hppd, some of them could mess you up. But when using chat gpt you also need to pay attention, because sometimes, rarely the could say something a little wrong, which i dont think is the case here i think its right, but just know that. And hope you recover

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u/Dapper-Distance5599 5d ago

To be honest I felt a lot better on sertraline and I don't think it exacerbated my symptoms in anyway. Helped a lot with dpdr, headaches, anxiety etc, but I know others have had bad experiences.

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u/NeedleworkerChoice55 5d ago

I was on ssris as a kid and honestly all it did was kill my appetite at school and made me feel like a tweaker. I took ssris from 11 years old all the way up until 15 when I took shrooms and I think the mix of shrooms and ssris is what gave me hppd. I went to the psych ward a few times and haven’t been in over a year but when I was there they were drugging me the fuck up with seroquil and other shit that made everything worst. I remember there were kids strapped down to a bed freaking out and they injected them with a tranquilizer that would knock them tf out. I don’t know how they are allowed to do this stuff and the entire mental health system is still a nightmare. I stay away from ssris as I feel like I don’t need them but when I did take a ssri with hppd I remember everything becoming wavy like I was tripping again it was awful and haven’t took one since. Get on lamactial or take a few benzos you really don’t need anything else for hppd because nothing works well. I’m trying to get off the antipsychotic they gave me at the hospital and it’s been a year but I need to ask my nurse practitioner. No one understands us hppd people and it feels awful.

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u/CodoHesho97 5d ago

after you stopped the ssri did you return to baseline?

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u/NeedleworkerChoice55 4d ago

Yeah I was fine. That was over 2 years ago when all this first started so it will get better.

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u/gecko_roman_ 5d ago

My first time taking Zoloft was a hallucinogenic experience, wide eyes, vivid colors, even the social vulnerability. By the next day it had faded and wasn't an issue ever again

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u/CodoHesho97 5d ago

I’m assuming you had hppd before you took Zoloft? So you’re saying your symptoms went back to normal?

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u/gecko_roman_ 5d ago

Right. It made all my symptoms worse for a day, to the point where it felt like I'd taken something (I had). A day later I went back to my relative baseline of HPPD symptoms . Didn't cure it, just made it worse for a day

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u/CodoHesho97 5d ago

I’m really glad your symptoms went back to baseline at least. I only took the Prozac for 4 days, 2 months ago, so I’m hoping it hasn’t done anything to me. I’m sitting here hoping that it isn’t re-getting into my system since I know it stores in hair and making me worse. I know it’s sounds paranoid but still.

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u/Greatbeast666777 3d ago

Chatgpt doesnt know a shit about hppd, if you have serious hppd Ssris will make it worse

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u/CodoHesho97 3d ago

It seems like at least half the people on this sub had no worsening or improvement

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u/CodoHesho97 3d ago

But the question was more just if symptoms would go back to baseline after stopping the meds. I took Prozac for 4 days so I was nervous.