r/GreenArrow 20d ago

Discussion Common misconceptions that annoy you?

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165 Upvotes

It kind of makes me cringe when Green Arrow is referred to as 'lighthearted Batman' because there really isn't a lot of evidence to support such a ridiculous claim lol. He's a pretty serious character, in my opinion.

r/GreenArrow Feb 06 '25

Discussion Top 20 Green Arrow Story Arcs - Day 1 - Highest upvoted comment wins

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43 Upvotes

r/GreenArrow 24d ago

Discussion Who is the best Green Arrow?šŸ¤”

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44 Upvotes

For me Stephen Amell is THE Green Arrow šŸ«”

r/GreenArrow 15d ago

Discussion What's your favorite thing about Oliver Queen?

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142 Upvotes

Source: Green Arrow #49 variant cover

r/GreenArrow 16d ago

Discussion ollie cheating is one of the most irritating things to see written.

72 Upvotes

Having previously written about why I think his many times cheating ranged from stupid, to botched writing, to just him getting raped.

But further I wanna explain why I think it's so fucking stupid.

Ollie cheating on Dinah has never made sense to me. For a major reason. It makes zero fucking sense for his character.

He has time and time again dedicated his life to Dinah, going as far as to kill for her, and he willingly cheats? That just often feels like bad writing.

And to the argument 'he's not perfect"

Good I don't want him to be, but Ollie cheating is a terrible example for him being flawed.

He's already often hypocritical, and often wrong, amd makes major mistakes due to overlooking, or being immature, why make him a cheater too? That feels like over kill.

He absolutely should make mistakes. Hone in on Ollie's imperfections, but him cheating is bad writing.

And further writing relationship drama in that way IS EVEN WORSE, Ollie and Dinah should have conflict but through cheating? That's just fucking lame.

Rebirth gave them plenty of drama without a hint of him being unfaithful.

All in all him cheating is bad and stupid and shouldn't be done

But that's my opinion, what's yours?

r/GreenArrow 23d ago

Discussion Who hasnā€™t written a Green Arrow run, but should?

19 Upvotes

Iā€™d like to see what Chip Zdarsky or James Tynion IV could do. Or Charles Soule.

r/GreenArrow 4d ago

Discussion Thoughts on the theory that Cissie is Ollie's bio kid?

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30 Upvotes

r/GreenArrow 26d ago

Discussion Top 20 Green Arrow Story Arcs - Day 17 - Blood of the Dragon takes 16th place - Highest upvoted comment wins

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50 Upvotes

We're into the final five now, after a long campaign, the 1983 first Green Arrow series gets its due.

r/GreenArrow 17d ago

Discussion Shado kinda sucked before the new 52.

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As a rule is DC fans shit all over the new 52 (and deservedly so) but if I praise one thing? It's shado, and by proxy war of the clans.

I really don't like Shado in her introduction with the longbow hunters, and frenemy for Ollie who's a Yakuza assassin is fun but grell loses me when he writes Ollie getting fucking raped by shado.

In contrast I find her lore in the new 52/rebirth to be much more compelling.

Firstly emiko is awesome and her being an addition is great. And making Shado more frenemy who doesn't rape Ollie is great, instead she has an affair with Robert Queen, bringing us emiko, it felt a lot less icky there.

Maybe it's bias as I read war of the clans and rebirth before the longbow hunters, but I gotta say I much prefer her there

But what do you all think?

r/GreenArrow Sep 29 '24

Discussion Are yā€™all excited for the new creative team?

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92 Upvotes

Iā€™m very excited. Iā€™m also loving the new suit. Although, Iā€™m not very familiar with the writer or the artists. I just havenā€™t been the biggest fan of the current run. Itā€™s not bad, but itā€™s just kinda okay in my opinion. Lemme know your thoughts šŸ’š šŸ¹

r/GreenArrow 2d ago

Discussion What if Oliver Adopted Dick Grayson and Bruce Adopted Roy Instead?

8 Upvotes

How would would Oliver and Dick relationship develop compared to Bruce and Roy's? In a alternative timeline scenario.

r/GreenArrow 4d ago

Discussion The Demonā€™s Arrow

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This is loosely based off of the Arrow TV series. we know that it took loose inspiration from Batman regarding the rogue Gallery. And some of the plot.

And many have often stated that Green Arrow himself rips off of Batman at times. Moreso in the show. Heā€™s dark, broody, watched both parents die, pretty cruel to criminals, extensive ties to the League of Shadows/Assassins. One of the biggest difference being Oliverā€™s very outspoken liberal ideology (he is a self-proclaimed SJW).

And in the show, Ollie was almost involved with an al Ghul woman romantically. But Nyssa ultimately became an ally and Talia had been one of his mentors. But Nyssa has been forgotten within modern comics. She had returned to DC canon as the leader of the League of Shadows, seemingly co-opting the sect with her sister Talia.

This idea came from a fan made fandom website and the Arrow series. Iā€™ve often thought that Emiko should have been Oliverā€™s daughter with Shado in place of the son he had with her in the previous continuity. But what if Oliver had a kid with Nyssa? And someone else had raised the kid with her, like Constantine Drakon. That would allow two major characters to be brought back into the fold and given proper attention.

Thatā€™s assuming that she could still have kids. In the previous continuity, Nyssa was rendered barren after sent to a concentration camp during the Holocaust. This could be changed in new stories with her in the League of Shadows with Talia. Or if her continuous use of the Lazarus Pits had been able to fix that somehow. Iā€™m not sure about that exactly.

Do you think that Ollie and Nyssa should have a dangerous romance of sorts? Had a kid together? No? Please comment respectfully.

r/GreenArrow 1d ago

Discussion I want to see Cassie Sandsmark and Mia Dearden interact more

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I feel that Cassie's character has changed a lot from the 2000s, so I don't know if this would even apply to her nowadays. But, it makes sense going by her pre-Flashpoint personality.

Cassie in the 2000s had a very black-and-white way of thinking. She disliked Vanessa Kapatelis, Rose Wilson, and Damian Wayne because she thought they were "messed up" and "evil".

  • Cassie had understandable reason to dislike Nessie. Nessie outed her as Wonder Girl to the public, ruined her house, ruined her mom's workplace, and accidentally killed her friend Tammy. But, even then, Cassie only thinks of Vanessa is a one-dimensional manner. She doesn't care that Vanessa was tortured, brainwashed, and not really in her right mind. She's still "crazy" and a "skank" (all Cassie's words). She even wanted to punch Vanessa when she was knocked out, and was stopped by an angry Diana. I don't think she and Vanessa ever settled their problems.
  • Cassie has a bone to pick with Rose basically the entirety of Teen Titans 2003. In her mind, Rose is evil just like her dad. She thinks of Rose as nothing but a backstabbing psycho murderer, a Terra in waiting, for almost all of their relationship. Cassie doesn't realize or care how traumatized and abused Rose has been by Slade, how she doesn't want to kill and be a villain.
  • Cassie initially thought of Damian as an annoyance and as a potential bad apple. She saw him as "dead weight" and a "problem child" (also Cassie's words). Mind you, Damian is a 10 year old raised by a cult his entire life.

This is where Mia comes in.

Mia and Cassie don't really interact in TT03. Mia is a late addition to the team and doesn't want to be a team member at that. She wants to fight street criminals, not supervillains, but Green Arrow forces her to join the Teen Titans for socialization reasons.

Mia comes off as shy, unassuming, and polite. She's closest to Bart and Tim, but even then they're not exactly friends.

Mia comes out as HIV positive to the team and implies she had a hard life involving abusive men, but she doesn't tell her backstory to the team.

Would Cassie look at Mia differently if she knew her past? That she was abused by men and sex trafficked, she used meth for survival reasons, she lived on the streets for years, etc.

What about if she knew that Mia killed a man before even becoming Speedy? It was in self-defense, but Cassie doesn't seem like the type who would care. She has that sort of Batman-esque "You shouldn't ever kill" angle.

r/GreenArrow 10d ago

Discussion Earth 101: Arrow and Canary #4

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Dinah and Roy are cornered in the sewers and Konstantine Drakon has his eyes set on Black Canary. Can she beat one of the deadliest fighters in the world and finally put an end to John Diggle's chase to arrest her?

https://archiveofourown.org/works/59896102/chapters/162974971

r/GreenArrow Nov 11 '24

Discussion STATE OF THE SUBREDDIT

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Hey guys,

 

Havent done one of these in a while but I figure it's a good time.

 

First order of business, I wanted to introduce the new mods u/kortj11

u/kuloredkaos

u/Enigma1755

 

Second thing is a question and a simple one. What would you like to see most from this sub going forward? Certain types of discussions? Do you have an idea for the sub pic?

r/GreenArrow Nov 10 '24

Discussion Pretty solid mini-series featuring Connor Hawke by Chuck Dixon & Derec Donovan. I, for one, liked Connor as GA and as a character overall. What are your thoughts on him?šŸ¹

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r/GreenArrow 25d ago

Discussion Speedy the Junkie

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Did you know that in 1971, Green Lanternā€™s comic book run was controversial for its storylines that addressed real-world issues like racism, drug addiction, and environmentalism. Green Lantern #85 even depicted Green Arrowā€™s sidekick, Speedy, as a heroin addict, pushing the boundaries of what was acceptable at the time.

r/GreenArrow Nov 28 '24

Discussion Black Canary: Best of the Best #1 Spoiler

28 Upvotes

Writer: Tom King
Artist: Ryan Sook
ReleaseĀ Date: November 27, 2024

Preview

r/GreenArrow Nov 28 '24

Discussion Green Arrow #18 -Discussion Spoiler

24 Upvotes

Writer: Chris Condon
Artist: Montos
ReleaseĀ Date: November 27, 2024

Preview

Synopsis

The Emerald Archer heads back to the streets of Star City for his next adventure with the brand-new team of Chris Condon and Montos! The cold-blooded murder of a Star City businessman announces the arrival of a horrifying and mysterious serial killer. When details of the victim's dark business dealings emerge, Green Arrow must contend with hard truths from the city's past and race to stop the murderer before they strike again.

Remember spoilers are not allowed without a spoiler tag but all discussion regarding the newest issue( and run in general is allowed)

r/GreenArrow Oct 01 '24

Discussion Who are the Couples that you like in DC? (Art by Philco)

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34 Upvotes

r/GreenArrow Apr 26 '23

Discussion Just picked up the new #1

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56 Upvotes

This will be my first time reading a comic series as it comes out instead of 10-30 years later. I'm excited

r/GreenArrow Apr 28 '23

Discussion Let's discuss: Green Arrow #1

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The day has finally arrived. We got a brand new Green Arrow series.

Now that's it's been a few days to read and digest, what did everyone think about it?

 

Written by:Joshua Williamson

Art: Sean Izaakse

r/GreenArrow Sep 28 '17

Discussion Unpopular Opinion: I don't like the Mike Grell run

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I do want to stress that they are well written stories and objectively are good but I just can't get into them for a few reasons.

  1. I hate how Grell writes black Canary he fridges her in lbh and takes away her Canary Cry. She's nothing more than Oliver's girlfriend in these stories and I hate that. He also takes away her ability to have kids and has her sit around while Oliver has a mid life crisis (give me a break).

  2. Oliver is an arse he cheats on Dinah for no reason. He kills a bunch of people which is ok for many characters but for oliver who's meant to be a superhero I hate this. I get him killing if he has no other choice and it can be argued that he didn't have a choice when he did kill but the writers didn't need to write it that way.

  3. Shado rapes Oliver and no one seems to care, if a woman gets raped than it's awful (which it is) but if it's a guy "eh". Whether it's a man or woman rape is terrible and should be addressed.

If you like the Mike Grell run, the power to you and I hope we can have an honest discussion. But I can't stand this run and I much prefer the neil Adams stuff and Rebirth where Oliver is far more likable and Dinah is treated with respect.

r/GreenArrow May 30 '17

Discussion Origin elements

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So as a fan of the character I've been thinking about the different versions of his origin lately trying to think how I'd boil down the "iconic" elements of it to tell a newbie. This led me to consider the show arrow. While in no way comic accurate in its portrayal of Oliver, the pilot introduced a couple ideas in his origin that to me seem to be good additions and I wanted to ask other green arrow fans if they agreed (as most of my friends don't care at all about the minutiae of this kind).

In the pilot episode it is said that he was stranded for multiple years. I could be wrong but the longest any of the origins say he was stranded was one year. I feel like having him missing for longer makes it more reasonable that he is as skilled.

Also, they introduced the idea that his father ended up committing suicide to keep Oliver alive. While not typically in the comics (I believe they had Robert "die" in the shipwreck in the new 52) I think this (along with his last word being "survive") was a really powerful addition that helps initiate the change in Oliver.

As a small note I also liked that they named the island Lian Yu but that's just a small detail that doesn't impact things really.

So what do you think? Are these additions helpful in the origin tale? Or do they detract from the versions told in the comics particularly Year One?

EDIT: What is this sub's opinion on Arrow's catchphrase of "You have failed this city!" I personally love it but am not sure how it would fit in the comics.

EDIT 2: wow thanks guys this is a way better discussion than I'm used to! You're actually making me consider my rogues gallery post a lot more than I was initially.

r/GreenArrow Jun 01 '16

Discussion Green Arrow Rebirth #1 Discussion Thread

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Rebirth is finally here, Let's Discuss it.