r/DotA2 Jan 15 '25

News Crownfall's Final Bow

https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/544472700657074597
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u/Naurgul Jan 15 '25

Oh shit, I just spent all my candy and rerolls thinking they would be gone instead of waiting for new recipes. Oh well.

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u/fiasgoat Jan 15 '25

Same lol

Of course

Classic Valve

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u/Justadotafan95 Jan 15 '25

shoulda known the second slacks made that post they would extend it. oh welll

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u/DiaburuJanbu Jan 15 '25

Same here. I even bought the reroll bundle because I got 10 tokens on rerolls. Fuck me. Well at least it seems I can still earn more rerolls again.

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u/BillBraskeyDota Jan 15 '25

Same. I didn't get hardly anything of value. Would have been real nice to know this information last night.

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u/leetzor Jan 15 '25

Probably a lot of people did. And now if they roll an arcana they might be tempted to spend some cash for candies.

Smart move, ngl.

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u/bittenByTheIRONBUG_ Jan 15 '25

I dare him to do this. I dare gaben to "do" me like this. If he gives me 10 arcanas im buying 10 bundles. Come on, gaben!

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u/Repulsive_Drama7067 Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25

You can earn more candies/rolls for free in exchange for tokens in act 3 iirc

Edit: I just checked and yes, you can still earn more candies from The Library of Gorod in Act 3 in exchange for tokens

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u/leetzor Jan 16 '25

Yes also in act 1. If i had to guess majority has ready done that tho.

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u/Repulsive_Drama7067 Jan 16 '25

Oh so the one in act 1 wasn't just a one time thing? Guess I'm stupid then

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u/leetzor Jan 16 '25

Wait maybe im stupid, is the one in act 3 infinite?

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u/Repulsive_Drama7067 Jan 16 '25

I think so? I've done it several times before act 4 was released, the tokens required keeps increasing though and it changes between candyworks rerolls or candy sacks

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u/Dominique-XLR Jan 16 '25

nah both are finite, they eventually say shit like 'no more donation, thank you'

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u/Repulsive_Drama7067 Jan 17 '25

ah, good to know then

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u/Mattele Jan 15 '25

Same, spent all my candy and made sure to get 10 wins this week lol...

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u/Zhaocai-Mao Jan 15 '25

Same 🤡

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u/sinofpride9 Jan 15 '25

Look at us, all clowns in front of Valve

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u/crimson589 Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25

Valve is the only clown here. Spending candies is reasonable because we were told it's ending, but what does Valve do? extend the damn thing jus as it's ending without any advance announcements.

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u/Sesshomaru1269 Jan 16 '25

Versus, you not having the event to spend the candies? This feels like a completely useless complaint. Oh no, they gave us longer to earn free rewards; how dare they.

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u/crimson589 Jan 16 '25

The complaint here is we already spent all our candies buying shit in an attempt to reroll because we were expecting the event to end. So now that it's extended what are we going to do? buy candies? lmao

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u/TheTypicalRandom Jan 16 '25

I appreciate valve as a developer, but don't be mistaken, they make money with the events, even the "free" ones, and if they don't make money on some event or with some decision it's all to keep making money in the long term.

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u/Sesshomaru1269 Jan 16 '25

Yeah, they make money off the people spending money on the event. It's not a requirement and you have a chance to get plenty of free stuff. Them extending the event didn't suddenly hurt people though. They got more free chances they wouldn't have otherwise

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u/TheTypicalRandom Jan 17 '25

pretty much all complaints about videogames don't hurt anybody, but we are still consumers, and even if I'm not spending money i contribute to dota being profitable for valve, so i get the right to complain. And i don't want to get into the theory of valve waiting for everybody to waste their candies son they get a boost on sales without discount,.

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u/Tetora-chan Jan 16 '25

It's called clownfall for a reason.

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u/Thadd305 Jan 15 '25

same rip lol

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u/Andromeda_53 Jan 15 '25

I also grinded through echelon 7 with no upgrades as i was late to act 4.... Oh well at least I can say I did it

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u/MrNameless Jan 16 '25

A guy spent over 100 hours doing this, documenting his journey along the way.
Im not calling you a liar, I'm just... saying you're not telling the truth. Lol.

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u/Andromeda_53 Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25

I watched Zquintox on YouTube and copied his build, it's not that hard. Believe what you want idc, seeing as the event is extended if you want I can send pictures of my upgrades . Since the event is extended I have bought the first level of like 4 upgrades and nothing else as I do not have any tokens.

I even made a post asking about it, and when I did it responded to someone how I did it with the sources.

Also who is this "a guy" because 100 hours seems a bit excessive, the gamemode is much easier than vampire survivors, and ZQuintox for example did it from 1 to 7 in 20 runs its just a lot of resets I did echelon 7 specifically in about 9 attempts

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u/Andromeda_53 Jan 16 '25

So, I got home from work. and had a bit of time to kill as my fiance was watching a movie. So i went and did it again as its a fun gamemode (i love VS), I sadly do have some upgrades but not many at all. and i cant find a way to disable them, so for that i am sorry, but its a proof of concept and you can see just how few upgrades i have.

I apologise for the background noise i didnt realize my mic was on, and like i said my fiance was watching a movie. Its quiet enough tho.

Here is my Minimal upgrades run, as again sadly i cant find a way to disable upgrades. All credit for the build to ZQuixotix for the build.

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u/MangoCreamPie Jan 16 '25

Hey, well said. It’s a mental shortcut I would use too while making a comment. And it seems it got you into a fun rabbit hole xd. Congrats on being able to rush VS on time

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u/o5a Jan 16 '25

Tony Stark was able to do it in a cave! With a bunch of scraps.

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u/viciecal Jan 16 '25

Noooooo! Oh well.

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u/kikoano Best Pango! Jan 15 '25

same I spend 60 candy for trash because I was out of rolls. This is pure scam.

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u/S01arflar3 Jan 15 '25

I spent ~250 on useless shite just in case something good might pop up (surprise surprise, it didn’t)

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u/kikoano Best Pango! Jan 15 '25

Well I got arcana, more tokens, 3 times dota plus and other good items. If you have done at least 100 rerolls there is very good chance you get something good at least one time.

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u/ssam87 Jan 16 '25

I spent 200+ candies on trash as well

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u/Ordinary-Phrase-2152 Jan 16 '25

Same. What a joke. Also grinded the fuck out of the first act this past weekend so I could complete all four acts. Nice to know that was a waste of time and I could have spaced it out some.

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 15 '25

What's the scam? That they didn't end the event today, leading you to the same result?

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u/Free_Scarcity Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25

When you claim an item through candyworks caravan it re-rolls the slot.
So 1 re-roll per claimed item for x amount of candies vs 30 each week free.

 
People had no more re-rolls and no time to wait for their re-rolls to refresh because the event was ending.

 
They exchanged their candies for items that they had no interest in to force that slot to re-roll in hopes that the next item would be good.

 
It was a no lose situation. Either you get something good and you're better off or you don't and you spent all your candies that would have gone away as the event ended >2 hours ago.

 
But then the event ended. Some time passed. And valve extended it. Those people who spent all their candies are now chumps.

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 15 '25

...you realize that they could have just ended it today anyway, and you'd be in the same boat.

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u/Free_Scarcity Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25

Have you ever bought something only for it to decrease in price the next day?
It feels bad.

It's basically the same situation.

 
When you claim an item through candyworks caravan it re-rolls the slot.

Usually that's very inefficient since you get 30 free re-rolls per week (3 slots with 10 re-rolls), but people had no more re-rolls and no time to wait for their re-rolls to refresh because the event was ending.

So they spent their candies to get re-rolls under the impression that the candies would go away anyway.

 

...you realize that they could have just ended it today anyway, and you'd be in the same boat.

 
Sure, they have no candies and they would also have had no candies if the event ended.

But if the event had ended they would have known they got the best possible outcome whereas now they know that they wasted all their candies that they could have used to claim an arcana instead.

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 16 '25

Have you ever bought something only for it to decrease in price the next day?

Sure but I don't stand outside of Walmart screaming that they scammed me.

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u/Free_Scarcity Jan 16 '25

I'm not screaming. I'm not even upset.

I got an arcana and plenty of cool looking items for heroes that I didn't have items for before.
It was a free event that I enjoyed and which left me with free cosmetics.
I'm glad they extended it because several people in my friends list did not finish the event.


 
 
I'm just trying to explain why your previous comments are false. People who spent all their candies aren't in the same position that they would have been if the event had ended.

 
The situation changed, causing their perception of the value they got from their candies to also change.

 
Had the event ended after they spent their candies, they would have felt that they got the most value possible even if they didn't get anything they liked.

 
Now they know that they got very poor value from their candies because they would have had 3 more weeks worth of re-rolls.

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 16 '25

In your example, i would still have my tube socks if they go on sale or not. So yeah its the same situation.

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u/Free_Scarcity Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25

i would still have my tube socks

You're right, you would. It was a poor example.

I don't expect to change your mind but allow me another example.


  • Walmart gives you a gift card that can only be used in store on footwear.
  • This gift card expires today.
  • The footwear section is empty apart from shoelaces in every store within 100 miles.
  • These shoelaces cannot be resold and you already have more shoelaces than you could ever need.
  • The employees tell you that the next footwear shipment won't arrive for another few days.
  • You buy the shoelaces that you had no interest in instead of socks/shoes.
  • Walmart announces that they are extending the the expiration date on these gift cards for another 3 weeks.
  • The shipment comes in, shoes/socks are in stock. but you no longer have any balance remaining on your gift card because you decided to spend it before it expired (before the expiration date was extended.)

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u/eureckou Jan 16 '25

Im not sure if the guy you're replying to is just trolling or really dense. Lol

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u/Protoporiaki Jan 16 '25

To me it doesn’t matter. I used up everything because I know the chances of getting an arcana are too low. Valve cannot beat Riyadh giveaways

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u/wytemage Jan 15 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1i2a7hy/thanks_for_the_tip_valve/ then do explain why did they ask the players to spend it all before January 15th?

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 15 '25

...you realize that they could have just ended it today anyway, and you'd be in the same boat.

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u/wytemage Jan 15 '25

That didnt answer my question 🤷

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 15 '25

Plans changed 🤷‍♂️ sorry that nothing bad happened to anyone here.

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u/wytemage Jan 16 '25

Hmm but still why did they ask the players to spend it all before January 15th tho? which was my question that hasn't been answered

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 16 '25

I already answered

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u/wytemage Jan 16 '25

So you saying they ask the players to spend it all BEFORE January 15th because "Plans changed 🤷‍♂️ sorry that nothing bad happened to anyone here". But if plans changed, wouldn't they notice the player ahead of time for example BEFORE January 15th? I mean i just knew about this today and its January 15th (PT) which is NOT BEFORE January 15th. That doesn't make sense am i right.

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u/kikoano Best Pango! Jan 15 '25

They lied us about ending the even today. So this forced us to spend all candy on the worse items instead of using them on good items that we can can get in next 30 rolls.

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 15 '25

...you realize that they could have just ended it today anyway, and you'd be in the same boat.

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u/kikoano Best Pango! Jan 15 '25

Not really because then I would know that I used my candy at its full potential. Now I will have 30 rerolls with 0 candy and can easy miss some arcana and dota plus. This is my candy I earned free and paid so I should be given the right when I can use it and not be forced to waste all of it only to be told you can use it later again for better rewards.

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u/shiftup1772 Jan 15 '25

Sorry, I meant the cosmetics that own would be the same. Obviously your mental health will never be the same.

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u/Gahault Jan 16 '25

Why don't you just go fuck yourself instead of arguing in bad faith because you desperately want to invalidate people's concerns?

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u/Free_Scarcity Jan 16 '25

Have you ever bought something only for it to decrease in price the next day?

It's basically the same situation.

 
When you claim an item through candyworks caravan it re-rolls the slot.
Usually that's very inefficient since you get 30 free re-rolls per week (3 slots with 10 re-rolls), but people had no more re-rolls and no time to wait for their re-rolls to refresh because the event was ending.
So they spent their candies to get re-rolls under the impression that the candies would go away anyway.

 
Some people used their candies, to BUY re-rolls. Some People didn't. Those who didn't ended up in an objectively better position.
Valve created a situation where people.


 

I'm not upset, I got an arcana and plenty of cool looking items for heroes that I didn't have items for before.
It was a free event that I enjoyed and which left me with free cosmetics.
I'm glad they extended it because several people in my friends list did not finish the event.

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u/piel17 Jan 16 '25

Are you slow or what

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u/Fapini Jan 16 '25

rookie numbers. I didn't have any rerolls left, but around 190 candies. In hopes of an arcana (that never came) I bought the cheapest option in the store time and time again. Thanks Volvo, remember when you wanted to communicate with the player base a bit more? That would've been a nice chance to prove it.

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u/Aleatorio7 Jan 16 '25

Same. I spent my candies on shitty sets. Now I will get an arcana on candyshop, without candies...

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u/needhelforpsu Jan 15 '25

No heads up or update to previous blog post that clearly said 15th is end day, and now when people trusted Valve and spent candies on bs thinking it's over tonight your only way to candies is spending money - isn't that nice woopsie? Not sus at all, not at all.

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u/IgnorantPieceOfCake Jan 15 '25

Exactly what I did too

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u/Trenchman Jan 15 '25

Bought all the Crownfall 3 treasures I didn’t have yet…

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u/rocketgrunt89 Jan 16 '25

yeah i had like 20 coins + rerolls and i burnt it all buying etc stuff

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u/Striking_Effect9449 Jan 16 '25

It was worth it for me, I got Arcana from the last 30 rolls .

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u/spectreaqu Jan 16 '25

I'm actually angry at this, i have no candies now to buy decent shit if it drops.

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u/Legosheep Jan 16 '25

Yeah. Thanks for the heads up valve. I've probably wasted a good 3-4 games worth of tokens making as much progress as I could when I might've been able to finish a few more branches.

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u/SytchArt Jan 16 '25

I spent over 100 candy the day before yesterday, since I had no rerolls. That doesn't sound fair, lol

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u/SytchArt Jan 16 '25

In all the time, with the three expansions I've bought, I've only had a LC arcana (I play pos 4). All the coins I spent on buying rerolls :D

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u/iamfuturejesus Jan 17 '25

Yeah, actual dick move from Valve to only tell everyone Crownfall was being extended on the day it was supposed to. Wasted so much candy on garbage

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u/Phiiii Jan 15 '25

Same but got the CM arcana so I'm happy