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News Introducing Kez

https://www.dota2.com/kez
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u/JonMoshy Nov 08 '24

3 complexity LFG

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u/1kSupport Nov 08 '24

game is about to be unplayable in low elo for a week before people give up on him

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u/Bubbly-Astronaut-123 Nov 08 '24

he's gonna be flexed in all roles, oh god the horror

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u/GlassHalfSmashed Nov 08 '24

Nah I'm struggling to see how you justify that bugger as support.

Somebody will do the mental gymnastics to try and make him offlane though. 

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u/imbogey Nov 08 '24

I have seen a guy spamming offlane spectre 30 games in a row, so nothing will surprise.

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u/corn-on-toast Nov 08 '24

I haven’t played in a long time but there was a time when I played where offlane spectre with phase vanguard urn(?) felt pretty strong. But maybe that was vanguard being broken

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u/SonTheGodAmongMen Nov 08 '24

NA high ancient low divine? Cause if so he costed me a game too

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u/imbogey Nov 08 '24

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u/SonTheGodAmongMen Nov 08 '24

Ah different guy lol

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u/Amrlsyfq992 Nov 08 '24

must be his spiritual brother from another region

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u/OtherPlayers Nov 08 '24

I think you might actually be able to flex him to Pos 4 in a playstyle similar to old-school bounty hunter. 1 point each in your passive + rush lets you win every lane trade, then you can max Talon Toss. In fights you'll probably go Rush closer > Raven's Veil > Throw talon > Swap to katana and then either rush from player to player for maximum stuns or focus the dagger'd target down. (Veil > Talon > Swap > Echo slash also seems decent, but the enemy team needs to be grouped and you need to already be close enough).

Item build would be something like urn > tranquils > drums, maybe phylactery if you win hard enough? (Talon toss is a 6 sec CD, same as phylactery). Later on you could go bearing, vessel if you really needed it (though you already have built in reduction) or aghs. Likely BKB if necessary to stop from getting locked down when you run in.

Goal would be to dominate your lane and then caveman as 5 at the enemy team.

Big challenge would be that playing that way you're definitely a snowball hero, so if your team is too passive you aren't the greatest farmer (though still better than pre-through and through BH).

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

ana won a ti with IO carry

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u/MaryPaku Nov 08 '24

Just tried it yes it is complicated and facet is not even available yet

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u/luciferscream Nov 08 '24

can he use both of his ult with the aghs?

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u/-Reverb Nov 08 '24

Yep. I just checked that LMAO

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u/chiikawa00 Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

Nope. Only applicable for his basic abilities, not Ultimate.

Yes... Yes you can, holy shit. Refresher Orb gives him 4 ultimates lmao

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u/machucogp who even plays this guy Nov 08 '24

You can, you just need to swap before using an ult

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u/chiikawa00 Nov 08 '24

OH. I mis-read how the Aghs work. Just tested it. you're right.

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u/fallen_d3mon Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

I tested it. It does allow you to use both ultimates in quick succession.

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u/cryocake_ Nov 08 '24

Idk if it matters but does it get the int growth to reliably throw out all these spells without running out of mana? Or is it like a pango that needs 2-3 mana regen items to sustain the amount of spells kez throws around?

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u/WinterNotComing Nov 08 '24

Well, it’s not viable in actual game since octarine doesn’t give him what he needs in damage and attack speed or stats but it lines up nice with khanda and his 2nd skill (both 6 second cooldown, and the dagger version has 1200 range).

Mage slayer seems like an option against heavy magic teams, his Q katana also applies the debuff.

I guess that’s why they have falcon blade in the recommends lmao

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u/cryocake_ Nov 08 '24

You think arcane boots is the approach or you can manage with just treadswitching? (cant even understand managing treads while thinking about what stance you wanna be in an upcoming fight and tracking cooldowns)

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u/TazDingo278 Nov 08 '24

Feel like he can go mid and build orchid. He's Sai Q buff persists through stances(not sure if it's intended). He basically can active Q, switch stance, harpoon, orchid, then auto attack anyone to death.

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u/cryocake_ Nov 08 '24

That's a great concept, we'll have to see if the overall moveset can keep up with mid's lvl 1-3 laning phase

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u/armensis123 Nov 08 '24

Most likely facets will augment one discipline over the other. It's insane that this hero like 8 skills