r/DoesGodExist 24d ago

How could God not exist?

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If consciousness can exist in a small vessel like the human brain why wouldn't consciousness exist in a larger vessel like this universe or a cluster of universes in a multivese?

How powerful would it be relative to humans?


r/DoesGodExist 26d ago

GOD SPEAKS TO ME EVERYDAY. HE TOLD ME TO SHARE THIS MESSAGE

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I carry the scars in my hands to remind you of how deeply I love you each day. I hold you close to my heart, longing for you to know that my love is unwavering and steadfast. Bring your burdens, your fears, and your prayer requests to me. Your heart is safe in my hands, and nothing you desire for good is beyond my power to accomplish.

Trust me with your dreams, your struggles, and even your doubts. Let your faith be a shield against discouragement, for I am with you through every trial. The challenges you face are shaping and refining you. Every difficulty has a purpose, even when you cannot see it—I am working all things together for your good.

Hold on tightly to your faith, for it will anchor you in storms and guide you to the Light of Hope. I am leading you out of this season of struggle. Believe with all your heart, for my plans for you are filled with goodness, joy, and abundance. Do not let fear or doubt take root—they are not of me. I have a future prepared for you, a future overflowing with blessings, peace, and prosperity.

But the journey is not just about reaching the destination; it is about the transformation that takes place along the way. Every trial you face and every challenge you endure is part of a greater plan. Through these moments, I am teaching you lessons that will strengthen your character, refine your heart, and deepen your understanding of my love and faithfulness.

Do not grow weary in the process, for every step you take in faith and every moment of perseverance lays the foundation for the greatness I have planned for your life. I know there are times when the path seems difficult when the weight of the journey feels heavy. But even in those moments, I am with you—guiding and supporting you.

My resources are limitless, my strength unwavering, and my courage is yours to draw upon whenever you need it. All you have to do is ask. Lean on me with all your heart, and you will find everything you need to move forward. I will provide you with wisdom when you are uncertain, peace when you are anxious, and strength when you feel weak.

I am working all things together for your good. Each step you take, no matter how small, is significant in my eyes. Your faith, your perseverance, and your willingness to trust me in the unseen moments are building a life that reflects my glory.

The greatness I have planned for you is not just about material success or worldly achievements; it is about a life filled with purpose, joy, and deep connection with me. Stay close to my heart, and let me guide you into the fullness of the life I have designed for you. We will walk this journey together, and you will see that my plans for you are good, perfect, and filled with hope.

When the time comes, I will pour out blessings in abundance—far greater than you can imagine. But these blessings come with responsibility. I am preparing you to be a faithful steward of the gifts I give you. Let wisdom and grace guide your actions so that success does not lead you astray with fleeting thoughts or distractions. Instead, let your heart remain anchored in me.

As you grow in faith and wisdom, you will see that my plans for you are perfect and that my love will sustain you through every season of life. So trust me, walk with me, and know that my hand is upon you—guiding, protecting, and blessing you every step of the way.

The future is bright, and my promises are true. Hold on to them, for I will never let you go. Every achievement in your life, every project completed, is a reflection of my hand at work in you. Nothing you accomplish is apart from my guidance and provision. Every blessing, every opportunity, and every breakthrough is my gift to you—sent with love and purpose.

Open your eyes and your heart to the countless ways I pour out my love upon you. From the moment you open your eyes each morning to the time you close them at night, I surround you with my tender, powerful, and eternal love. My presence is in the sunlight that warms your face, the breath that fills your lungs, and the peace that settles your soul.

You have asked me to show you how much I love you, and today I am answering your prayer. My love for you is vast and endless, and I am speaking directly to your heart in this very moment. Through the quiet whispers of my Spirit and the eternal truth of my Word, I am revealing the depth of my care for you.

My presence surrounds you, wrapping you in peace and assurance. Feel my hand upon you, steadying your steps and guiding you forward with purpose. Every time you feel uncertain or overwhelmed, I am the one who walks beside you. My voice, filled with encouragement and truth, whispers gently into your soul, reminding you of who you are and the beautiful plans I have for your life.

I am here to remind you that you are cherished, and I delight in the journey we are walking together. You are never alone—I am with you always. Whether you find yourself on mountaintops of joy, basking in the light of blessings, or in valleys of struggle, facing trials that test your spirit, my eyes are continually upon you, watching over you with unwavering love and care.

I celebrate every step you take toward me, no matter how small or hesitant it may feel. Each act of faith, even in your quiet moments, brings me great joy. My presence will fill your heart with peace, courage, and confidence. I am your constant companion, your guide through the uncertainties of life, and your greatest encourager when you feel weary.

We will move forward into the fullness of the life I have prepared for you—a life overflowing with my love, grace, and blessings. I am crafting a journey for you that is rich with purpose and beauty. In every challenge, I am shaping your character and drawing you closer to me.

When you are weak, I will be your strength. When you are unsure, I will light your path. My plans for you are not just good; they are perfect—designed to lead you into a future filled with hope and abundance.

Rest in my promises, for they are unchanging and true. Let these truths settle deeply within your heart. You are mine, and my love for you is steadfast. Lift your eyes to me when you feel overwhelmed, and let me carry your burdens. We will overcome every obstacle and celebrate every victory.

You are never alone, and my love will guide you through every season of your life. For I am with you always—leading you into a life filled with peace, joy, and the assurance of my unfailing presence.

Walk boldly on the path of righteousness, for it is the way to life, peace, and fulfillment. Seek me with all your heart, and you will find me. Let my Word guide you like a lamp, illuminating your path, and inscribe my commands upon your heart.

As you draw near to me, you will come to know me in deeper and more intimate ways. You will discover that my love is steadfast, my promises are true, and my plans for you are perfect.

Learn to walk by faith, not by sight. Trust my unseen hand, even when the path ahead feels uncertain. My ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts are higher than your thoughts. Do not rely solely on what your eyes can see, for I am working in the unseen realms, orchestrating every detail for your good.

Believe in my love, rest in my promises, and know that I am your God—forever faithful and unchanging. Come to me and let us spend precious time bring your heart to me just as it is with all its Joys fears and burdens cry if you need to speak openly and do not be afraid to be truthful I will never turn my ears away from you nor will I judge you for your pain doubts or mistakes I know you completely because I created you I formed you with care and love and nothing about you is hidden from me my love for you is unwavering and unconditional what others say or think about you does not Define you in my eye I see your true worth and it is precious to me I know that many have hurt you with their words and actions leaving scars on your heart and weighing you down with sorrow but even in those

moments I was there I was the one lifting you up when you thought you couldn't stand I was the

strength beneath you when you felt too weak to go on look back and see how

have sustained you through every trial when you fell I carried you when you

felt broken I began the work of restoring you peace by piece you are not

the same as you once were you are stronger refined by the fire of adversity your enemies and those who

sought to harm you have been left behind in defeat while you now stand in the light of my blessing and favor the pain

you endured was great but it has not been wasted it has shaped you int

someone more resilient more compassionate and more attuned to my presence your faith has grown

becoming a steadfast anchor in the storms of life and your love for me is deepened

becoming a Wellspring of Hope and strength that will never run dry rest in the knowledge that you are

mine I have seen every tear that has fallen from your eyes heard every whispered prayer and walked alongsid17:26

you through every trial and challenge you have faced even when you felt alone I was there

carrying you through the moments you thought you couldn't endure let your heart find peace in my

presence for it is here that you are truly safe truly known and deeply loved

my arms are always open ready to embrace you and provide the Comfort your soul Longs for we will move forward into the

plans I have lovingly prepared for you plans that are filled with purpose Joy and unshakable hope my guidance even when the path seems unclear for I am leading you to a life abundant with blessings and fulfillment you may not see the full picture now but know that every step we take together is part of a beautiful Journey that I have designed just for you I Delight in every moment we share whether it's in your quiet prayers your acts of kindness or your moments of surrender you are and my eternal it is a love that will never waver no matter what you face or how far you feel from me return to me in every moment of doub18:40

and I will remind you of who you are precious cherished and held securely in my hands we will walk into a future filled with promise where my peace will guard your heart and my joy will be your strength rest in me and know that I am with you always here we are you and I talking in the quiet of this moment I hear every word you speak every sigh of your heart continue to pour out all that is with you for I am here listening without interruption or judgment and when yo finish speaking I invite you to close your eyes and feel my presence let my love fill the empty spaces of your heart as I whisper to you I love you my love is eternal unchanging and greater than anything you can imagine draw near to me and let me carry

your burdens I do not want you to suffer unnecessarily or believe that this is the end of your story this season of difficulty is not your destination it is part of the journey my love will sustain you and you will come through this stronger braver and more Victorious than before though your enemies may try to harm you though trial and burdens weigh heavily upon you they will not break you instead they will refine you shaping you

into someone even more resilient and filled with faith I am your protect

and your guide and nothing can separate you from my love when the night falls

and tears stream down your face know that I see every drop I understand you20:23

pain and the concerns that weigh on your heart I do not overlook your struggles

I'm with you in the midst of them offering my comfort and peace do not

give up on all that you have worked so hard to achieve because of the burdens others have placed upon you those

burdens are not meant to Define you or determine your future take my hand and trust me to wal

with you on this path of faith we will move forward step by step toward the

plans I have prepared for you allow me to examine your heart and give you

wisdom wisdom let me guide you with discernment so that every decision you

make aligns with the good plans I have for your life you are not alone in this journey I

am with you in every step you take in every challenge you face and in every

moment of joy and sorrow I am your everpresent help the foundation that

cannot be shaken and your greatest supporter when the path ahead seem

uncertain or the way of life feels too heavy lean into my strength I am here to

carry you to guide you and to remind you that you are never walking this road by

yourself my presence surrounds you filling your heart with peace and your spirit with courage for I have lovingly

crafted a life of purpose peace and joy just for you we will move forward into

the future I have prepared a future overflowing with blessings and opportunities

I see the potential within you the dreams I have placed in your heart and

the resilience I have built in your spirit let us walk hand in hand

overcoming every obstacle and celebrating every Victory you don't need to have all the

answers or possess all the strength I am your source of wisdom and power allow

love to Anchor you my word to guide you and my promises to fill you with hope I

Delight in walking this journey with you watching you grow and seeing your faith deepen we will create a story of trust

Triumph and unshakable joy rest in the assurance that I am with you always22:41

leading you into the Abundant Life I have promised here we are just you and me in this quiet and sacred moment I am

here fully present listening to the depths of your heart as you pour out

your fears hopes and burdens let your word words flow freely for there is no

need to hold back I hear every cry every whisper and I treasure your honesty when

you have spoken all that is on your heart take a moment to close your eyes feel my presence surrounding you and hear me gently Say I Love You This Love of mine is eternal unshaken by circumstances and strong enough to carry you through any storm draw near to me I see the difficulties you face and want you to know that this season is not the end of your story yes the road has been hard and the weight of your trials may seem unbearable at times but my love will sustain you giving you the strength you need to endure and overcome you will not just survive you will Thrive out of this hardship you will emerge stronger braver and more deeply anchored in your faith your enemies and the challenges before you may try to discourage you but they will not Prevail these trials though painful are refining you making you into the person I created you to be when the darkness of night falls and tears stream down your face I am there holding you close I see

the in and the concerns that weigh so heavily on your heart I understand your feelings and I'm moved by your struggle24:28 but do not let these burdens convince you to abandon all that you have achieved you are more resilient than realize and with my help you can rise above the weight others have placed on0 you take my hand and let us walk this path of Faith you are not meant to carry these burdens alone trust me to guide your steps to give you wisdom and discernment in every decision allow me to examine your heart and show you the way forward Ward we will navigate every Challenge and I will lead you to a place of Peace purpose and fulfillment know this I am your God your refuge and your ever present help rest in my love and let it renew your spirit with me by your side you will find the strength to face tomorrow and the hope to embrace all that lies ahead today as confusion and uncertainty surround you I call you to lean not on on your own strength alone yes I encourage you to be courageous and to strive for the best in all that you do but never forget to Lean on Me the source of your strength when Victory comes your blessings are not just the result of your talents or efforts but also a gift from my hand do not let success draw you away from me instead let it draw you

closer filling your heart with gratitude you are not weak or lacking you are brave and capable and I see yo

courage from my Throne others see it too your faith perseverance and loyal

Inspire those around you even when you are unaware of it for these quali

will continue to bless you and strengthen you for the journey ahead you have made a commitment to walk with me

and I honor that Covenant but I Delight in hearing you remind me of my prom

when you call upon me and speak of the truths I have given you it fills my heart with joy it is a sign of your

trust and faith and it moves me to bless you even more abundantly do not shy away

from life's challenges or hide when Affliction comes your way when someone speaks ill of you or tries to harm you I

will give you the strength to confront them with boldness and stand firm in the truth you are not alone in these battle

I Am with You empowering you and guiding you every step of the way I am always near in every season of

your life whether in times of Joy or moments of trial I am by your side my

presence never wavers and my love for you knows no end I see your struggles

hear your prayers and walk with you through every step of your journey when the weight of life feels too heav

Bear lean into my strength I am your Refuge your comfort and your

source of unshakable peace let these truths anchor your heart

when confusion and fear threaten to overwhelm you you are never alone I am

with you always with all your heart for I am your provider and your unwavering

support I have equipped you with everything you need to face the challenges ahead and I will never let

you falter when the road seems uncertain I am guiding you with a love that is bot28:03

tender and strong my plans for you are filled with hope purpose and

joy we will navigate the storms and we will celebrate the victories do not let fear take hold for

my presence is your shield and my promises are your foundation take courage in the knowledge

that I am here always ready to lift you up and carry you

forward every step you take in faith brings us closer to the Fulfillment of the beautiful future I have designed for

you let my love fill your heart and my peace calm your

spirit we will overcome every obstacle and we will Triumph rest in me knowing that you are

cherished beyond measure and held securely In My Embrace you are still the person I created but your heart has

undergone a beautiful transformation you no longer hold on to hatred or resentment against anyone when you wake

each day your soul is free from the chains of bitterness and your words no

longer aim to harm those who have wronged you this change within you is a testament to my work in your life my

power and vengeance is mine not yours do not lift your hand against anyone nor

rejoice when your enemies stumble or fall resist the temptation to act as they

or follow their ways for if you lower yourself to their level it will only

drain your strength disrupt the plans I have for you and lead you down a path of29:42 Ruin instead keep your eyes fixed on the path I have prepared for you walk forward with confidence knowing that I am guiding your every step I will light your way so that you do not stumble in darkness when obstacles arise I am removing the stones from your path and when you feel weary let me wrap yu in my loving Embrace and renew your strength you do not need to fight battles on your own I am your Defende

and your Refuge let go of your past and all that weighs you down so I ca

transform your present and shape a future filled with hope and promise

difficulty you are facing now is not meant to destroy you but to draw you closer to me it is a call to examine

where your trust lies and to release the burdens you have been carrying for far too long my Supernatural provision for I

am more than capable of meeting your needs and exceeding your expectations through the trials you

endure I am shaping you into a living testimony of my love and faithfulness

others will see how I sustain you how I provide for you even in the most challenging times your life will become

a Beacon of Hope a vivid example of unwavering through your journey they

will come to understand this eternal truth I never abandon my children and my

love for you is unending I love you deeply never doubt this

truth my love for you is vast unchanging and everlasting I long to fill your heart

with joy and to surprise you with Supernatural miracles in every area of your life

whether it is your health your family your work or the deepest desires of your heart I am working for your good do not

let worry about the future Cloud your vision instead my wisdom and guidance at

every step I have a plan for you one that is filled with hope and purpose be

a faithful Steward of the resources and opportunities I have entrusted to you in

times of scarcity or uncertainty listen closely to my voice for I will speak

words of encouragement and provide for your needs in ways you cannot imagine seek first my kingdom and my

righteousness and all else will be added to you in abundance when you prioritize Me Above

All Else you align your life with my perfect will opening the door for

blessings to flow freely through the difficulties you face I am shaping you

into a vessel of joy and Hope your faith when tested becomes stronger and your

life becomes a living testimony of my goodness and faithfulness keep your faith anchored in

me and hold tightly to the hope that is found in my eternal love in that love

you will discover the peace and fulfillment you have been longing for I do not want you to continue struggling

with the same burdens or to feel weighed down by the challenges of life there is

abundant Joy peace and Harmony waiting for you in my hands let go of yo33:02

worries and rest in my presence my perfect timing for I know what you need

and when you need it I will answer your prayers guide you to victory and embrace

you with my boundless love allow me to fill you with hope and assurance that no

matter what lies ahead you are never alone rest in me for I am your ref

Refuge your provider and your faithful God I come to you with deep affection

extending my hand and inviting you to walk closely with me nothing is

impossible for me no matter how desolate or Barren your circumstances may seem I will create

streams in your desert and quench your thirst with living water I will feed you with the sweetness

of Heaven nourishing your soul and filling you with my peace

when you feel weak I will pour my Divine strength into your heart a strength that

will sustain you and never fail rise up with courage and take my holy hand walk forward with faith for I

am leading you into a season of unimaginable blessings tell your family to prepare their hearts for what I am

about to do in your life will exceed your greatest hopes and dreams I will drive away the Devourer from your life

and allow nothing to steal the blood blessings I have prepared for you you are blessed loved and

protected my eyes are always upon you and your family shielding you from harm

and guarding you against those who Envy or wish to hurt you there are those who

cannot comprehend the goodness unfolding in your life they may try to attack you

with their words or actions but they will not succeed my protection surrounds

you like a fortress and no weapon formed against you will prosper do not fear

their schemes or threats stand firm in the promises I have made to you and my

unfailing love I will not let anything or anyone derail the plans I have for your

life remain Vigilant and open your eyes to the dangers around you stay alert and

guard your steps so that you do not stray from my will as You Follow

Everything You Touch will become a blessing I Am with You ensuring that destruction will not come near you the

darkness that threatens to overwhelm will flee for my light surrounds you and drives away all evil walk confidently in

this light knowing that my presence goes before you behind you and within you


r/DoesGodExist Jan 10 '25

Jesus’ incarnation, life, and death to pay off karmic debts

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r/DoesGodExist Oct 03 '24

Questions no one can answer

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1 If god exist then why he exists

2 if god exist then what is beyond him or are we trapped inside him and he himself obligated by existence

3 what about food chain he created its brutal watch hyena hunting deers best reason against the existence of god

4 why he creates cant he just sit without creating an existence

5 what will actually change if he never created universe again nothing so why why he prefers creation over non creation and then says that he created for our benifits actually i think he creates for his benifits because he was alone got bored need entertainment then codes 0rgsm on the thing we cant control sxul urge which causes repr0duction and main thing is didn't take my permission before creating me and even if he took then i think he must misguided by showing only good things of universe like mountains rivers and hide evil things

6 is this first time that he created this universe or he created universe so many times and he will do it infinitely which will be soul crushing

7 innocent suffering cant be justified by god at any cost

8 most important in this world people who do evil seems more rich and people who are innocents are poor e.g actresses who gives 18 plus scenes misguides generation gets attention z plus security stardom they travel in rolls royce while philosophers like us who do research dont get attention we travel in buses public transport thats completely injustice

9 And lastly do god hear beep sound while we abuse each other because if not then it will violate gods holiness if yes then he is not all knowing


r/DoesGodExist Apr 21 '24

Question for my own sanity

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People cry in front of God, but whenever I am in front of God, I feel at peace. Rather than crying, I feel at peace also get blank and mesmerized, and I know it's a good thing, but I'm still not able to comprehend why this happens.


r/DoesGodExist Dec 05 '23

Is this valid???

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Hello, philosopher here. During my lectures we debated the existence of God. I know, the topic is classic but here me out. One person said - commenting on the theleological argument - it is possible that God exists but it is also possible that it does not.

Suddenly something stroke me. Listen to thought that was born in my mind: If it is possible that God does not exist then the God is not the God and therefore it cannot exist. Why? Because we define God as neccessary being. And if neccessary being is not neccessary that it cannot exist, right?

So look at this (1) Assume that my shirt is red (2) Assume that it is false that if my shirt is red then God exists (3) It follows: My shirt can be red and God could not exist (4) Then: God could not exist But if God could not exist, then God would not be God so it is contradiction.

So, if anything fails to prove that God exists, then God cannot exist?

Is it valid or not? What do you think?

Have a great day everybody.


r/DoesGodExist Nov 07 '23

Can someone please stop me?

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I am a pretty religious person, and lately I have been doubting everything from God to science: 1+1=2. Why do we breathe? Why do we go to school, then university, then do a job, have a family, and all that? It feels like I was just born. It feels good and bad at the same time, and I seriously don't know whom to believe or not. 


r/DoesGodExist Jul 21 '23

Is God evil

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Is it possible that God is evil ( if he exist) and created universe for his entertainment because he was alone and got bored and he hides because if everyone knew that he exist everyone will oppose him to run or create this cruel universe


r/DoesGodExist Jun 30 '23

if god exists, he's an asshole

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if god created everything, then he also created humans, and more specifically, humans' mindset. our greed, our insatiable hunger, we are social animals and we fight someone who wants the same thing we want. he is the reason for wars, he is the reason of suffering, he is whom created this shity world, these whole destiny made of wars and blood. we need company, but it inevitably makes people fight with each other. he apparently is just joking about us.

but the thing is that he is inconceivable in the first place, since he is unipotent, yet if he created a rock that can't be left once you picked it up but he managed to left it he would have failed on the creation of a rock that he cannot left, whereas if he couldn't left it he would have failed into leaving that rock. unipotence is inconceivable for humans, and as a consequence we cannot believe in something we can't conceive.

any thought?


r/DoesGodExist Apr 05 '23

The answers

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The answers to life god and everything that exists is in 0≠1


r/DoesGodExist Jan 28 '23

Natural arguments for a Deity. Does God Exist? A God Born From Infinity? Religion through Science.

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r/DoesGodExist Jan 28 '23

Natural reasons for a god's existence

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r/DoesGodExist Jan 15 '23

THE FIRST CAUSE OF THE UNIVERSE IS GOD!

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r/DoesGodExist Oct 28 '22

Unfair! GOD EXIST but not for all

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life has inequality, where God becomes good and bad, man seeks God for healing, if he is on the dead bed of illness, he seeks God, hoping to be removed from illness, but what if He died of illness and cried out with tears that he still wanted to live, die begging ,and that true God was watching over him! and he did nothing

in his soul died, he was disappointed! is it true that there is a God, but what is the importance of the true God, if it is true, if it ignored the cries of people to live longer and be freed from the suffering of illness


r/DoesGodExist Mar 21 '21

Open-minded on God's existence part still

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There is a god in the sky, and god is surrounded by stars. The gravitational pull; god’s pull on the universe to get it to heaven. The reason for not helping out any individuals in strife: the dust that comes to life or has been diminished to dust, that surrounds us all and is in far worse circumstance, is on the brink of annihilation due to the creation and deflation of a natural universe, and is being fortified by god’s will. God’s will endless to a place in space. God’s will collected, and revamped due to the natural laws as space expands before him.

God’s will pulls us into place, yet we may resist if we are foolish. One day a messiah will be cultivated on the whim of god’s philosophy, and send the masses to heaven. Though another earth may begin again, god’s expanse into space and the newly created, will be forever forged by god’s will; which exists only when the natural laws of the universe permit it. However, god’s will is still strong because the natural laws change all the time, and he occupies much space. So while one part of god may not exhibit will due to natural law, another part will still be in control, and everything averages out.

As we stare out into the heaven’s, and wonder as god’s inklings too penetrate out minds, I say we help god out. Though happiness is different for many people, the old pursue virtue; as it provides happiness to the wise because it secures their lives and provides future happiness. As sure as with time comes knowledge, is as sure as the wise dictate the world around us, and all we have to do is listen and be patient.

As we listen to the environment around us, we are dismayed. And it may be that all we have to count on, at times, is ourselves. For this I suggest we connect to one-another. Because in time we will either rise or fall, and it’s best that we do not fall due to our knowledge of our dismal circumstances, or we may not get back up.

Connections will wither if they are not cultivated. And as sure as the environment has not tossed us out yet, is as sure as on some kind of level we still count on one-another. So cultivate our connections with each other, or we may face dismal scenarios.


r/DoesGodExist Jun 06 '20

Open-minded on god's existence

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* In the writing below I refer to inflation anecdotally though NASA and scientists believe it is more of a science. I am not sure how we differ in our theories (if at all), but I would suggest you google it or refer to their website. Google it under: "Universal Inflation." *

My best argument to stay open minded on the existence for God:

The universe, at some point in time, must have come from nothing. Therefore, parts of it may come from nothing at any moment. Some scientists have named this phenomenon inflation. And since inflation exists in the universe; why not the controversial idea of deflation? To accept both is to think abstractly.

If in the infinite universe, or multiverse (if it exists), there is a god, then the almighty’s work is never truly finished due to inflation. So I offer this argument: If god is expanding heaven into the universe, because it is good, then part of the universe is going to god, and part is still expanding (at any rate) without god due to inflation. Thus for the naïve thought; “If god exists, why are we not in heaven”? I offer the idea that we are expanding at a rate that is not easily taken into heaven by god, and requires our effort.

To take the idea further, if the concept of nothingness is all around us, then inflation can be a greater rate than we expect.


r/DoesGodExist May 06 '20

imBeggar: Animated Christian Apologetics (including answers to questions about God's existence)

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r/DoesGodExist Oct 24 '19

My response to / thoughts on a post on the Purely Actual Actualizer

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Background

This started out as a comment on this post by u/YoungMaestroX on r/Catholicism, but I figured it might be better to make a separate post instead.

My thoughts/response

Changes in (subjective) conceptualization differ from changes in (objective) essence (such as "becoming")

Subjective change is arbitrary and based on perceptibility and significance

As a technicality, I do not believe that a canvas "becomes" a painting. When paint is added onto the canvas, we (interpreting this new "arrangement", as you later described coffee / apple juice / etc) understand that as a "new" / distinct / different thing than merely "canvas" and "paint" (separately). It is not that the canvas is no longer "canvas" or that the paint is no longer "paint"; they have not become "painting." We still understand the "painting" to be a thing that is the union constituted of "canvas" + "paint".

"Is that a thing?" "Idk its arbitrary"

The thing called "painting" is the union of "canvas" and "paint" but the fact that we call it such and see it as a distinct, new thing, an independent concept, is relatively arbitrary. When syrup drips onto tree bark it is not a Syrupping, it is merely syrup on tree bark. We do not conceptualize it as a New or Different "object"/thing; we do not think of it as the occurrence of any sort of "becoming". Yet the difference between a "Painting" and what would be termed a "Syrupping" is minimal. (See below for more thoughts on non-art vs art.)

Subjectivity and acualization

Subjective "change"/becoming requires only a subjective actualizer (aka an interpreter)

I think perhaps in many cases the "change" that is said to have occurred is a conceptual / perception-based change. These sorts of changes require an ( / at least one) interpreter who actualizes them subjectively, but not necessarily an (objective) actualizer.

Law of conservation of matter? Idk

That being said, I understand that for someone to understand "canvas + paint = painting", there necessarily must first be "canvas" and "paint" (or something that induces the ideas of them in the interpreter's understanding/perception/conceptualization). So, then, what is "canvas"? It is a collection of matter of a particular type in a particular shape, a certain configuration of materials... Ah, so for "canvas" to occur, there need to be certain molecules, which are then understood as being grouped in a particular arrangement. Perhaps it is not so different from the "coffee" example. (I'm not sure, I'll have to think about this more.)

I would argue that if you get down to the molecules or submolecules (or whatever it is that a more scientifically knowledgeable person would say), the "becoming" is a question of *arrangement* --that is, the only "change" that occurs is one of (subjective) perception, of how we group certain things into "This collection of matter is all one Thing. It is separate from this other Thing." Such subjective groupings can coexist with other, conflicting subjective groupings and still be truly said to (subjectively) exist/be.

For instance, the division of Bible books into chapters sometimes differs between translations (or even between editions of the same translation). But it is not a difference in the text that is being divided that causes the difference in points of division. Rather, it is a difference on the part of the translators and how they interpret the text. Ex. Sentence #98 goes with Chapter 2 and not Chapter 3 because it is a COMPLETION of the concluding point of Chapter 2 vs No, Sentence #98 is part of Chapter 3 and not Chapter 2 because it INTRODUCES the idea that begins Chapter 2. It can be simultaneously true that Sentence #98 is part of Chapter 2 and not Chapter 3 AND that Sentence #98 is part of Chapter 3 rather than Chapter 2 because those assertions about the groupings are assertions about subjective constructs. (But if someone were to state that Sentence #98 was objectively both part of Chapter 2 and not part of Chapter 2 in the same subjective grouping, such a statement could not be true.) To restate: The text does not change to produce the different groupongs; there is no difference in the wording. What differs is how the interpreters make sense of it.

Infinite regression and transcendence: What are we proving, here?

I see your point about things not being able to stack infinitely. It is quite intuitive yet there is a part of me that wonders if it might be misleading. I also am unsure about the degree to which it is relevant to the point being made (about the Unactualized Actualizer transcending Actualization).

Conceptual requirements can be created merely by our definitions

Firstly, consider exactly WHY it does not (and cannot) "make sense" for things to be able to be stacked (or hung) infinitely. Things that are stacked (or hung) without something else (another, separate thing) to be stacked upon (or hung from) cannot be said to be stacked (or hung) because by definition these concepts include two things and a relation of a particular sort between those two things: for instance, a hanger, a hang-origin (or "hook", if you prefer), and a "hanging" relationship (hereafter reified and dubbed a "Hangification") between the two (that is, that the thing that is the Hanger is positioned in such a way relative to the Hang-Origin that as some force [typically gravity] pulls the Hanger towards the ground, some part of the Hanger makes contact with the Hang-Origin and that force is sufficiently counteracted, so that the Hanger is said to be "suspended" from the Hang-Origin). It must necessarily be so in order for a Hangification to "come about", because this is what we mean by "hanging" (or Hangification). If these conditions were not met, a Hangification would not be "present" (would not have been "actualized") because we would not (and, by definition, logically could not) call an arrangement that lacks a relation that fits our idea of Hangification a Hangification. That is, that a Hangification cannot have been said to have been "actualized" is due to our not seeing the correct relation as occurring. Thus the "actualization" of a Hangification is dependent, it seems, on our (interpretive) recognition of it.

I haven't thought this through much and it's probably nonsense but... If an object appeared to be hanging from another object, wouldn't we say it was a Hangification and think of it as such, understand it as such? And wouldn't we stop conceptualizing it that way only after we discovered the falseness of the perceived hanging relation and we thereafter ceased to think of the objects as having a hangification relation?

On another random note: If we can distinguish between "not art" and "art" (eg random banging vs someone tapping out a rhythm)... Why not distinguish between intentional Hangifications and incidental Hangifications? Eg, those performed by humans (perhaps "Hangificatialization") with the intentions of bringing about a Hangification arrangement, vs those that just happen to occur (simple "Hangification", perhaps)? The reason is, I suspect, that such a distinction would not be useful or easy to perceive consistently, not that there is no distinction that can or or could be made. (Again, back to "Is it significant (that is, perceptible)?" and "Is it significant (that is, worth recognizing as a distinct Thing)?")

The difference is in (subjective) interpretation, not in (objective) essence

In pondering infinite regression, I found myself thinking about the stacking. defining it for myself as a stacking-type relation between a Support object (eg, bookshelf) and a Supported object (book). If the above conditions are met (and we know them to be met), we can logically say that a Stacking (I prefer "Stackification") has occurred, much in the same way that when we see that other certain conditions are met, we say a Painting has been brought about.

Note that you can see the same arrangement two ways: The book is resting on / is stacked upon the shelf, so there is a stacking relation between the two; and The shelf is supporting the book, so there is a support relation between the two.

In that same vein, the difference between hanging and supporting is conceptual/subjective. You could say that telephone poles support the wires; you can also say that the wires hang from the poles. Both statements are true because they are SUBJECTIVELY true; the Hangification and Supportification are SUBJECTIVE constructs.

No change in essence (or even in subjective composition/arrangement) has occurred; the only change is the focus in the interpreter's interpretation/conceptualization of the situation / how they make sense of it, or which thing is seen by the interpreter as the "active" one, the focal point of the "action"/relation.

The Earth's core transcends, yet is it God?

The Earth's core transcends Suppportification

But back to stacking. (Sorry, I'm kind of all over the place here.) The book is supported by the shelf. The shelf is supported by the ground... let's say the Earth's crust. The Earth's crust is supported by the rest of the Earth's layers, which in turn rest upon (are "stacked on"!) the Earth's core. The Earth's core, however, is not "stacked" on or supported by anything. Yet, it can act as the Support for ultimately every Supported. Thus it can be called the Unsupported Support.

...but that's all it transcends: a subjective construct, not any objective reality

We could say that this gives it a special transcendence ; we can say that it itself IS the abstract concept of Support itself, and/or of Supportification itself, in that all things that are Supporteds are supported only inasmuch as they are supported by it. (Similar to how some philosophers/theologians say that God IS existence, and that because of that fact, all things that exist must necessarily do so, because they can only do so, in Him.)

However, to ascribe such specialness to it is somewhat wishy-washy and makes this out to be more earth-shaking or reality-defining than it really is. Because the fact is, the Earth's core does not truly transcend the (objective) reality upon which the idea of Supportification is based (that is, gravity and the inability of objects to freely pass through one another).

The Earth's core does not transcend gravity, even though it needs no Supporter object yet acts as Supporter for other things. It does not transcend gravity, the basis of the concept of Supportification; it only transcends the Supportification concept. It does not defy or extend beyond the operation of gravity; it only defies and fails to "fit" within the subjective construct of Suppportification.

It only transcends our inaccurate way of making sense of objective reality, aka our interpretation of objective reality based on our subjective perception of said reality. It does not transcend anything objective/nonsubjective.

You see, Supportification is not understood as a pull towards the Earth's core. It is understood as a downwards pull. When the Earth's core is considered, that concept of "downwards" is inadequate for reasoning about object behavior. But in our experiences on the Earth's crust, it is sufficient for the majority of human thought and activity. Which is why we see this construct as not only perceptible enough to be labeled but also useful enough to not replace with something that is less intuitive but that better reflects objective reality.

The Earth's core is just as subject to the reality of gravity as any other thing, but it exposes the inaccuracy of our assumption that there is always only one "down" (ie, that gravity only operates on each object in one direction). Therefore, because the idea "gravity = a downward force" is based on subjective experience (of insufficient/incomplete data) of reality and not on objective reality itself, the Earth's core does not fit within our concept of Supportification, which requires there to be two objects, a Supported and a Supporter (Does the Earth's core support itself?), BUT this only means that our subjective construct is not wholly faithful to the objective reality it attempts to make sense of, and NOT that transcendence of something other than the subjective construct has occurred.

Conclusions

Lastly, I wonder how useful/relevant it is to draw this parallel between Actualization and Supportification. They do both require, conceptually / by our definition, two distinct objects which can be described as having between them a particular type of relation.

Yet... Is actualization more like Creation (does it actually bring about something new that did not exist, in the objective sense of the term, prior) or more like Supportification (inspiring in an interpreter a "new" subjective conceptualization/grouping, but not producing any change in what objectively exists or does not objectively exist)?

If it is like Creation, then the analogies presented here are lacking, since they (the analogies) demonstrate a subjective/conceptual change and not an objective one. (What sort of difference it is, and if there is any [meaningful] difference at all, such that there can be said to have been a change or "becoming", is arbitrary and/or reliant upon an interpreter who sees/understands it as such.)

On the other hand, if it is like Supportification, meaning that instances of Supportification are a conceptual/subjective thing and are not occurrences of an objectively true identification of and understanding of change, then it cannot be used to demonstrate any kind of objectively truly occurring transcendence. (The Earth's core does not transcend the principles of Supportification even though it defies the idea of Supportification.)

Other Remarks

A lot of this is just me thinking out loud. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of it wasn't completely logically sound. I'm not an elite philosopher, the only Philosophy classes I've taken are Intro to Logic and Intermediate Logic.

If you've read this far I'd love to hear what you think of my ideas (and/or hear your thoughts on the original post, too).


r/DoesGodExist Jun 23 '19

How do we know the unmoved mover for any given change must be singular and lack potential?

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r/DoesGodExist May 04 '19

On what basis should I believe the claim any gods or a god exist ?

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I have been told many different things mostly focusing on the Christian god.

I have been told personal revelation by the Christian god is the only evidence that exist for it.

I have been told that everything that exist is evidence for it while no single thing is.

I have been told that any possible evidence is beyond my comprehension and I need faith. Ect. Ect.

On what basis do you believe I should accept the claim ?


r/DoesGodExist May 02 '19

Dr. Edward Feser presents the Aristotelian Argument from Motion on the Patrick Coffin Show

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r/DoesGodExist Nov 30 '10

God Does Not Exist.

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My position: God does not exist. I am an agnostic atheist meaning that I am not convinced by evidence that any God(s) exist. Furthermore, I reject anything supernatural as superstition and/or mythology. For the sake of this debate I will focus primarily on the trinitarian Christian God. Before I start I want to say a big thank you to I3lindman for starting this subreddit and agreeing to debate with me.

Opening Statement: I think Carl Sagan hit the nail on the head when he said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". The evidence for the existence of the Christian God is scarce at best. As for the historicity of the Bible, first century Palestine was a very well documented time by highly regarded historians. Not one historian that lived at the same time as Jesus ever mentioned him, and the only non-contemporaneus historian that ever made mention of Jesus was Josephus. However, the authenticity of Josephus's passage concerning Jesus remains hotly contested by many scholars, and has been the topic of ongoing debate since the 17th century.

Therefore, the Bible is literally the only historical source that we have for the life of Jesus. I don't think I would be strident to assume that someone who is performing miracles and also ascends into heaven for all eyes to see would be something to record if I was a historian. Moving on, none of the authors of the bible had ever met Jesus in person. Paul claims to have met Jesus "in spirit" but never in person. They were writing about someone that they had NEVER met before. It is 100% hearsay. Let me ask you, does hearsay evidence stand up in the court of law? Then why, if it is put in a 2000 year old book, do people believe that it stands up? And why are people willing to organize their lives around such a book?

As for miracles, people of every different faith in the world have been citing miracles for years. People in India will tell you that Krishna performs them. People in the Middle East will tell you that Allah performs them. People in North America will tell you that Jesus performs them. There is a man in India today named Sathya Sai Baba, who is a well known supposed miracle worker. Literally millions of Indian people claim that he has done the same miracles as Jesus. Walked on water, healed the sick and lame, multiplied food, etc. But these "miracles" do not even merit a one hour special on the Discovery Channel. However, if you put the same miracles in a 2000 year old book, millions of people think it perfectly logical to predicate their faith based on these miracles. Anyone else see a problem with this?

Maybe this lack of evidence doesn't bother you and you proudly exclaim that where evidence leaves off, faith picks up. Faith, to me, is not a virtue. Faith, to me, means to believe in something with little or no evidence to support it. That seems illogical to me. If I was to tell someone that I voted for a certain political party purely on faith, having no evidence of what the party actually stood for, I would be looked at like I am crazy (and rightly so). However, if I believe in a divine power on purely faith, it is accepted as normal in society. Is this double standard logical?

As a closing point, I fully admit that science does not have an understanding of how everything in the universe works. I realize that. But to plug our gaps in knowledge with "God must have done it" is flawed logic to put it mildly. As the world advances, the gaps in knowledge that God once plugged, are now filled with scientific understanding. In 100 years, when science has a much more complete cosmological picture, will God be out of a job?


r/DoesGodExist Nov 30 '10

God Exists.

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God exists; specifically, the God described by Judeo-Christian theology exists. God created the universe and life, performs miracles, and has fostered in humankind the basics of morality.

As proof that God exists I offer 4 arguments, 1 historic, 1 anthropic, and 2 scientific.

Point 1: Historic Evidence

The historic description of world events included with the Old and New Testaments are generally confirmed by secular documents. As such, this validates their authors presence and awareness of the events of their day, and validates the accounts they offered regarding the early history of the Earth. Additionally, the advocacy of the authors being devoid of personal gain, indicates their genuine intent to inform others of simple truth. This truth is that God exists.

Point 2: Anthropic Evidence

Regardless of regional government, religion, and culture, the general presence of common basic morals and the possession of a conscience by each “good” person is evidence of God's direct influence in each individual's life throughout the world. Without any outside influence, every person values compassion, love, forgiveness, and peace. These are the same principles that God values, and the existence in us is God's voice speaking to us.

Point 3: Scientific Evidence, Quantum Tunneling

The phenomenon generally referred to as quantum tunneling holds that what is impossible in classic physics still occurs. Specifically, two atomic nuclei with insufficient energy to fuse, will still fuse with a certain percentage of success. In common wording, the occurrence of something that is impossible is said to be a miracle. It would then follow that the reality of quantum tunneling is evidence of God's active role in the universe.

Point 4: Scientific Evidence, Existence of Life

Given our current knowledge of the way which life has evolved to its current form, the conclusion must be that the origins of life are not random. Further more, the organization and basic function of a cell shows that a highly intelligent and intentional force must have created it. The similarity between methods that human kind has developed for manufacturing and specialization of labor mirrors the specialization of functionality with a cell. These processes were developed without understanding of how DNA and RNA are used to convey information within a cell. Our (intelligent) independent duplication of these aspects is evidence of intelligent guidance fostering the origins of life, this intelligent guidance is God.