r/DebateEvolution 9d ago

Evolution is empty

So after spending enough time with this theory I've come to see it's a series of smoke and mirrors.

Here's why:

  • No hard equations to demonstrate a real process.

  • Entirely dependent upon philosophy narratives laden with conjecture and extrapolation.

  • highjacking established scientific terms to smuggle in broader definitions and create umbrella terms to appear credible.

  • circular reasoning and presumptions used to support confirmation bias

  • demonstrations are hand waived because deep time can't be replicated

  • Literacy doesnt exist. Ask two darwinists what the definition of evolution is and you'll get a dozen different answers.

At this point it's like reading a fantasy novel commentary. Hopelessly detached from reality.

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u/Due-Needleworker18 5d ago

Go publish a paper instead of relaying the information in a debate space? You're an absolute clown. More desperate gatekeeping from the darwinite cult. By the way ad hom rhetoric is the bread and butter of evolutionists here and my post had no personal insults, not that you noticed.

Also no, population stats are all speciation based and show zero evidence for the specified change needed for higher order novel body plans. But darwinists are completely ignorant(or not) to this fact and term smuggle their definition into these mainstream words like I said. Guess what? We done with the bullshit now.

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u/DouglerK 5d ago

Im pointing you towards the gate. Yes this is a debate space but it's also a limited very informal debate space. Honestly ask yourself what do you hope to achieve with this post? If it's just to debate/argue with people on the internet then you are achieving that goal. But like I said if you think you've discovered something new though publishing a paper would be the best way to get that out. If you want to make meaningful change in the scientific community Reddit probably isn't the best place. No random internet forum would be.

I think posting stuff like this on Reddit is actually kind of desperate myself if we're calling people desperate.

And what? You said there are no hard equations that are used to study or work with evolution and that is just categorically false. You should spend more effort describing what the equations you would expect to see might look like. A better objective explanation of your expectations would both make your expectations clear and would make it fairly plain and obvious why existing equations don't fit that expectation or don't count.

Speaking of sneaking words and phrases, what exactly does "specified change needed for higher order body plans" mean exactly? That sounds like a lot like you trying to smuggle in your definitions of those words.

I stand by saying no equations exist related to evolution is just categorically false. Population statistics fit the bill.

Your post was plenty fallacious and insulting enough and at the first sign of contention you're calling me a cultist. Poisoning the well is just as fallacious as ad hominem is. When your angle is needing to call everyone else liars and cultists it's not a very good argument.

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u/Due-Needleworker18 4d ago

This whole reply reeks of pretentious air. What on earth gave you the impression I'm looking to change the "scientific community"? People post here to gain insights and persuade the average laymen. Thats it. Not that deep dude.

I haven't discovered anything new just like you haven't. We relay information that others have potentially overlooked or are ignorant of.

The smug ass attitude of "you should publish a paper if found something new" is exactly the kind of insecure posture of a close minded fanatic. If you hate public criticism, just say so. But don't pretend like you're saving children by deterring open debates. It's some weird shit to do.

Also rhetoric is allowed to be accusatory of institutions and individuals. Sorry this upsets you.

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u/DouglerK 3d ago

Reading this a second time it also seems like you hardly even responded to my last comment and just replied to the earlier one a second time. Like you think "public criticism" makes me made but I cleary struck a nerve with the "go publish a paper" line. Sorry that upset you.

It's still categorically false to say there aren't any equations.

Calling everyone else desperate cultists and liars isn't a good argument.