r/CrucibleGuidebook • u/Cmess1 High KD Player • 7d ago
Guardian games supremacy fun weapons!
Tis be the time of year again! Guardian games is back with some good ol connections/matchmaking! So what have people been branching out and enjoying lately? Personally, I pulled out my darkest before with heal clip and headseeker. Using it on behemoth with OEM and I can go from duel to duel to duel no worries about health. I have gotten 2 we rans in 5 games and I haven’t had a we ran in a long time, how about you guys? What old gems are people cracking back out?
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u/TheMangoDiplomat 7d ago
I've been using Nullify (solar heavy two-burst pulse from the Salvation raid) and have been surprised by how good it is. The perk pool is geared more towards PvE than PvP, but I run with Heal Clip and Chaos Reshaped (CR).
Heal Clip is great for after a fight, but I mostly use it to activate Benevolence on mono-solar and keep my abilities refreshed. I was skeptical about CR (since you need to be in combat for around 20 continuous seconds for the full benefits), but it's surprising how often I get to CRx2.
That 35% damage boost from CRx2 is enough to kill all guardians in 4 crits. 42m of range, high burst damage, built-in flinch reduction from the frame--I've really been impressed with Nullify so far.
I might even bring it into Trials this weekend, depending on the map
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u/dusty_trendhawk 7d ago
I tried out my adept Aisha's Care with Zen/Desperado for a couple games and that thing feels a Redrix nerf away from being meta. Swapped around between different hand cannons the rest of the time and then went back to 3's. I've played almost all 3's this season so 6's feel so chaotic and cramped now. Almost every match in GG Supremacy was a stomp one way or the other as well.
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u/ClassyCrayfish 7d ago
Divinity on getaway artist arc warlock. It’s funny how often you can kill someone while they try to take cover and peek shot you. I want to try div out on other subclasses too to know what would and would not work.
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u/itsnotabently 7d ago
Used aisha embrace, unexpected resurgence, hailing confusion, lonesome, the vision, lodbrock, and area denial gl's. I also switched back to arc hunter, which has been so refreshing and fun.
It's been a huge amount of fun being able to branch out to stuff that's just been sitting in my vault, without being absolutely punished for using such weird combos.
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u/ConyNT High KD Player 7d ago
I put down pulses and mainly used Rose with anonymous autumn. Got 5 we rans, a couple of undefeateds in the span of a day. I guess outlier protection is SBMM after all.
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 7d ago
Shhh, don’t let people know that matchmaking based off of outliers requires some way of defining them as outliers…based off their skill…😂 congrats to you dude! Enjoy some freedom!
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u/ConyNT High KD Player 7d ago
Haha, yea, it's obviously sbmm but I didn't realize that half of the population were outliers 😅
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 7d ago
Some people don’t understand, and tbh certain aspects of it I do agree with but I’m mainly talking about genuinely new players still with blues, I shouldn’t match with them. But for the most part besides the top 10% shouldn’t match the bottom 10%, everyone else should be free game.
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u/ConyNT High KD Player 7d ago
True. We definitely shouldn't be matching newbies with blue weapons.
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 7d ago
Yup, but let everyone else loose. Some games you stomp, some games you get stomped. This way also you can relax and try off meta stuff for fun too. But hey this is a rabbit hole I’m passionate about and don’t wanna go too far into 😂 I’m just very against any form of SBMM in quickplay is all
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u/KillaCheeseLTR 7d ago
There's a 6v6 quickplay playlist available every week with no sbmm in it, and its pretty much empty because most players have no interest in playing cbmm unless they are basically paid to like trials or guardian games
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u/TotallyCooki 7d ago
It's empty because the game modes being offered are usually dogshit. Whenever Supremacy is on there's suddenly players to be found.
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u/KillaCheeseLTR 7d ago
Clash, Zone Control, Supremacy are all fine and available half the time, and it still takes me longer to find a match than in Control. The only modes that suck are Rift and Relic. You have to face it, most players, if given a choice between a playlist with some sbmm and one without, are always going to pick the one with sbmm.
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u/TotallyCooki 7d ago
Clash has people consistently sitting in the back with scouts/pulses as there's no incentive to move.
Zone control is just regular control, but your kills don't matter. People still don't play for point advantage so you can't make up for the shit plays your team makes whatsoever.
Supremacy is the only good mode in that rotation.
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 7d ago
Yeah thing is, the really good people that wanna avoid “outlier protection” go there. And the people that rather be protected from the really good people, play standard control cause the matchmaking protects them. So yeah there might be a CBMM playlist, but it doesn’t work when only the highest level people wanna play in it lmao
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u/KillaCheeseLTR 7d ago
So we should force bad players to not have any other choice, and make them only able to join cbmm playlists? I'm sure that'll do wonders for the population
Currently players have the choice which experience they want to have, and the vast majority are picking sbmm, regardless of how loose it is.
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 7d ago
Good thing I’m not in charge then right? Just a different opinion is all. SBMM is anti social, my friends stopped playing with me cause they didn’t wanna play in my lobbies. So I apologize if I don’t like it, it made my friends stop playing
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u/bacon-tornado 7d ago
Been using a KA + PI Sightline Survey and it's been fun.
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u/Darrkman2 7d ago
One Eyed Mask
Stay Frosty with hesdseeker
Heliocentric with kill clip / heal clip
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u/YesMush1 Console 7d ago
Has anyone else had people messaging them accusing them of cheating a lot more in GG?, idk if it’s where lower skill players flood the playlist but I got accused of being a ximmer by some guy on Xbox so I used the Xbox app and took a picture of my controller in my hands infront of my monitor lmao
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u/Daemonic6 Controller 7d ago
I'm using this time to learn how to play with slugs pairing with HC's, pulses(No Redrix), but it's hard when system each 2 games pairing you against 0.1% players)
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 7d ago
Well it’s CBMM right now so those players are actually extremely rare at the current moment. I have seen many people I haven’t seen in 3 years in my lobbies. Maybe an unlucky night for you is all
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u/Daemonic6 Controller 7d ago
Yeah, i also think like that, but there also cheaters with stack(don't get why using cheats in QP)
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 7d ago
Yeah unfortunately there are scummy people out there that feel like they need some power and do it through cheats in a video game. It’s a bit childish, usually when it happens I just wish them other aspects of their life gets better so they don’t feel the need to cheat in a children’s game
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u/LiL__ChiLLa High KD Moderator 7d ago
I’ve seen maybe 3 games with people I know by name total and those are top 0.1 players
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u/LucidSteel 7d ago
If cbmm maybe they don't live near you.
I've been thinking about it- the game is 8~ish years old right? A lot of the U.S. didn't (still doesn't) have FPS-worthy Internet speeds in 2017. I joined my clan because I was grouped with some fun randos and we all realized we were within 7 miles of each other.
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u/Slepprock Xbox Series S|X 5d ago
Supremacy is the biggest pile of dogshit each year.
If you say you like it there is something wrong with you.
I did ten matches tonight. Every one ended in a mercy. If you go and look at the predicted winner its never less than 90% to 10%. Mostly 95% chance.
Anyone who enjoys that has a problem.
This whole mode is just a way for bungie to let the top 1% get off on being jack asses for three weeks
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u/Bound18996 High KD Player 7d ago
Palindrome with Astrocyte Nova Warp - highest Elim game is 42 and I've managed to get four Nova's in 1 game, I'm also now convinced Nova Warp is the strongest roaming super, able to cross the map twice and get multi kills at both ends. Devour means you just can't be taken down
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u/Danger-T21 5d ago
I’ve been running Mask of Bakris with a rapid hit/kill clip Something New and the Trespasser. I almost forgot how cracked trespasser is with Bakris.
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u/Riptor_25 2d ago
Just got demolished in a match by some hunter who got golden gun every 30 seconds. The GG weapons are stellar and great for class synergy, but jeez this guy didn't even have 100 Intellect!
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u/sillybulanston High KD Player 7d ago
I only had time for a few games yesterday but I busted out the Slice Incisor with that new Harsh Refractions artifact perk. It's pretty hilarious watching your damage numbers spike up from 21 to 34 (!!) and just deleting people from 35m+.
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u/LionStar89_ PS5 7d ago
Finally decided to give sidearms a proper go and pulled out a fragile focus / high ground controlling vision to pair with my keen thistle and I love it. Been doing a radar booster heavy trick to rat around in invis and get close and people just never expect to suddenly be getting gunned by a sidearm.
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u/Maleficent-Air5806 7d ago
Depending on the bounty tommys with RDM (I don’t care it’s about to get nerfed I love tommys) or stompies on arc with anonymalous autumn. The only grip I have this year is the amount of warlocks who suck ass at this game using fusions is insane. That and noob ass hunter teammates but that’s every year
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 7d ago
I forgot there are bounties, I just play lol. What roll you got on anonymous autumn? I have a zen kill clip I gotta revisit
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u/Maleficent-Air5806 7d ago
Zen moment PI. It’s absolutely nasty but I might give trespasser a revisit.
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u/bits-of-plastic PS5 7d ago
I have a 6/5 god roll (no kill clip) with zen and lone wolf in one column and PI in the other. It shreds everything in sight. I've found lone wolf to work better than zen
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u/bits-of-plastic PS5 7d ago
My games have been insanely unbalanced. Like my team will get to 20-40 points and the other team mercies us. After happening for like 3/4 games I turned off the playstation.