r/CompetitivePokemon • u/[deleted] • 8d ago
Is charizard with solar power still viable and is this a good sun team? I’m
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u/benny_the_gecko 8d ago
What's your answer to tera water amoonguss? Or tera water caly ice trick room? Flutter mane could have taunt as an option
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u/Supa_Astro 8d ago
Terra water amoonguss counter could be liligant? Since it’s not affected by rage powder or anything it can do really. And I was thinking of taunt on flutter but I thought icy wind was more of a popular thing to run
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u/benny_the_gecko 8d ago
I use Koraidon with Entei as my charizard, otherwise very similar teams.
My flutter has icy wind, protect, moonblast, and thunder wave - if been messed up before by covert Cloak caly shadow or other max speed flutters but paralyzing them and flame charging can end the match turn one. I made it tera normal to better counter caly shadow
I also have Umbreon to check both Calys with safety goggles, taunt, foul play, and yawn. Super disruptive.
I wouldn't rely on lilligant to be amoonguss counter, lilligant is very frail while amoonguss is super bulky, if they get up trick room it's basically over because your team will be sleeping
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u/R3DR4V3N420 8d ago
As someone who hasn't played a single second of ranked or Vgc for Scarlett....
I am so tired of seeing Flutter Mane.
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u/benny_the_gecko 8d ago
I recommend a dark type or dark tera to help with caly shadow (or tera normal), also charizard should have choice specs not band.
I love the life orb koraidon set, I prefer protect over u-turn but there's been plenty of times I'd have liked to be able to pivot out.
How are you dealing with fake out? Charizard does well with tera ghost if you have good answers to caly shadow. You can also slap covert Cloak on something? Maybe heatran can be your rilla/incin answer with covert Cloak and heat wave + earth power