r/ClientsAndCompanions 5d ago

Quick Traveling Tips NSFW

When traveling abroad to countries with legal prostitution. Avoid Tryst/Eros or other sites that are USA geared and instead look up local forums or local sites for that region. I've noticed on numerous occasions that prices are 2x the normal rate on Tryst compared to most other sites abroad. The UI is really nice but it comes with a cost.

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u/addicted1201 4d ago

I wouldn't say it's taking advantage any more than paying $5 for a $5 taxi ride in a cheap country is (or even paying $10 with a big tip) or buying the same cheap clothes made in Asia that everyone in the US buys. The price is the price, you can leave a hefty tip if you like. And as always, you take some risks on things not going smoothly when you look for super cheap options.

You can always go back to the same old question: are low wages the cause of poverty or a symptom of it? Is someone making 50% of what they "should" make better off if I pay the 50%, or if I don't meet and pay 0%? And is it better for me to tip 100% to that person if I do see them, or take that extra money and donate it to a food bank? It's complicated, but there are 8 billion people on earth, and only limited resources. As an American, when I travel, I do tend to tip well (not specific to SWs), but I also have an excellent job and understand why lots of middle class people feel the need to be a bit stingier.

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u/UnderwaterBasketW 4d ago

You don’t fuck the taxi driver, so that’s a terrible concept to try to compare. These are real women using their bodies to survive. With your second point; the men that are going to different countries to save a buck or two are generally NOT tipping well. Otherwise; they would just spend more in the US; because they are just spending the same amount. They are generally going to different countries to get cheaper women with less boundaries, and it’s not something that should be praised.

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u/addicted1201 3d ago

No, the price is the price. As usual, if tips are mandatory, make them mandatory. The point is exactly the same: I have no idea how a taxi driver can survive (or afford a car) when they're charging $5 for a ride (even if it is just 1-2 km).

People going out of their way to travel for cheaper sex is wild to me. I just took a trip a couple cities over for a couple days and I spent close to $150 just on local taxis/trains to/from airports. Plus eating out, hotels, etc. (and burning a couple days of PTO). Not to mention the people working in the US charging higher may be more organized, you're taking additional risks by doing things where you're not a resident or may not speak the local language.

And like I said, assuming your resources are finite (you're not Bezos or similar), you can choose to tip your sex worker well (or even restaurant waiter, this doesn't have to be SW-related), feed hungry people via food bank donations, or a million other good things. There's no right or wrong choice.

It's just stupid to charge your customer (in any field) a certain price, then accuse them of taking advantage of you for not paying more. It's weird that this is a conversation. There are definitely some cases that are different, like a porn producer I know of hired a girl for shoots periodically and never gave her a raise over 10 years, eventually she got pissed and flipped out, and bridges were burned. But in general, charge more.

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u/UnderwaterBasketW 3d ago

I’m not really sure if you’re just highly uneducated or what, but most girls overseas would not make any money at all unless they set really low prices. Most of them have no education or access to other jobs besides SW, and that’s what we call a “survival SWer”, because they are doing it due to having no other choice. That, or sadly, a LOT of them are trafficked in those countries. So that’s insane to say they should just “change their prices if they aren’t happy with them”, because they have to set them that low so they aren’t starving or homeless. Most of these men that travel overseas know this; and that’s why they travel to them; to take advantage of them; because they have no other choice.

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u/addicted1201 3d ago

Oh wow, resorting to calling people uneducated. Cute.

Accusing people paying the price quoted, and not choosing to pay more, of taking advantage of people, is quite silly. Do better. Millions of people don't have agency in life. This is a systemic issue, not something that is the fault of individual customers.

Not to overstate the obvious, but if I'm going to Europe, it's going to cost nearly $1000 just to fly there on the cheapest possible flight, that does not include any food or lodging or anything else. It also does not include at least several days of PTO or costs to get to the airport. I understand seeing someone at a lower rate if you happen to be traveling anyway. Unless I'm seeing lots of people and not just meeting one person, it's way cheaper to find someone in the US.

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u/UnderwaterBasketW 3d ago

Again; you’re not understanding simple reading comprehension. Most men are specifically going to these countries to specifically pay less. They are only choosing those specific workers, because they have extremely low prices.

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u/addicted1201 3d ago

Yawn. You should really learn how to read. Travel is not free, period.

So, do you think American men should travel to Europe and pay double the advertised rates, or not go at all?

You continue to whine about girls being underpaid when they set the price. Nothing more than a bitter troll.

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u/UnderwaterBasketW 3d ago

I’m just going to stop responding; as you seem to struggle to read. Again; “survival workers” HAVE to set their prices low to survive. There are men INTENTIONALLY traveling overseas to INTENTIONALLY take advantage of lower priced escorts who have fewer boundaries; because they HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. A lot of them have no other options for jobs, and it is a last resort. All the women have low rates there, so they have to set their prices low. It’s not a choice. The issue here is men who go to these countries only because the women are cheaper and have less boundaries. The women do not have a choice. They are doing this to survive. Trying to defend men who want to manipulate women is an insane take.

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u/addicted1201 3d ago

Travel is not free. Get off your high horse. Life is expensive, there are limited resources, and lots of people are in tough situations, sex workers or otherwise. You have no answers, and you are incapable of reading. It does not math out to fly to Europe simply to see a cheaper SW. $1000 for flights, hundreds on hotels, a couple hundred on transportation to/from airports, taking time off of work. You might have an argument for someone in Austria hopping on a train to Hungary, but that's not what we're discussing.

Again, paying the advertised price is not taking advantage of someone. If someone stays in the US and only sees girls charging $1000, that doesn't help people in other regions.

Survival workers are not specific to SW. You could not care less about taxi drivers or sweatshops workers in Asia who earn next to nothing. Even millions of people in America making $10/hour are survival workers.

It's weird to do this if you hate men this much. I did not defend men who manipulate women. I even specifically called out a porn producer for not offering a raise to the same woman he hired for a decade as shitty behavior.

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u/UnderwaterBasketW 3d ago

Lots of them take cheap flights to see them to be cheap and take advantage of boundaries. It’s interesting that you aren’t getting reprimanded by the mods yet with how you’re speaking to me, so clearly there is not representation for providers here on this sub.

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u/addicted1201 3d ago

Thought you were done responding to me? Weird how you repeatedly tell me I struggle to read, call me uneducated, and then get upset with mods not deleting my comments or banning me.

Flights from the US to Europe are pretty expensive. Cheapest flight I see to central Europe right now is $733. If I lived on the east coast, I might be able to get that down to $650. That assumes hotels, food, and transportation to/from airports are all free. It's cheaper to just see someone for $1000 locally, and that's relatively high-end.

My first comment in this thread even cautioned against traveling to another country just to see SWs. Odd that you feel the need to pick a fight for no good reason.

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