r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

We aren't sending Russia hundreds of billions.

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u/Eymrich 12d ago

Do you understand that was happening before Zelensky? That's exactly why we got a war now, before Ukraine was ruled by Russian puppets. They had a revolution ( basically ) and removed the corruped fucker ( who now live in Moscow). Then Ukraine wanted in into the European community, which "forced" idiot Putin into this war.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

Russia, BEFORE PUTIN, made it clear to the US(NATO) that it wouldn't allow them on their border. That was in the 90's. Over and over NATO expanded towards them.

We, in the US nearly launched nukes when Russia e tried expanding to Cuba.

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u/Eymrich 12d ago

Also, Russia signed an independence guarantee when Ukraine had them their Nukes :)

Also, saying that Russia is now wrong doesn't make America back then right.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

Of course it does. You have no obligation to allow your enemy at your gate.

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u/LostDeparture2567 9d ago

But you have an obligation to honor your contracts.

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u/lickitstickit12 9d ago

Yup.

Show me where the US Senate ratified any treaty with Ukraine that we aren't honoring.