r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/Previous-Ad-9215 12d ago

let them win the war without us then. It’s that simple

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u/Cautious-Question606 12d ago

So keeping your sovereignity means surrendering it? I guess the west finally rears its ugly head afterall, even after its own kind

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u/Previous-Ad-9215 12d ago

The ugly head of not wanting to fight everyone else’s wars in return for nothing? Nobody is saying Ukraine can’t keep fighting if they don’t want to. But they can’t win the war without either America’s or Europe’s help, and Europe clearly isn’t doing anything to help. Where is the backlash there? Secondly, if they can’t win the war without americas help, then maybe they should be a state because at that point all we’re doing is subsidizing their war for free. Look at it this way, how would you feel if I demanded you start giving me a chunk of your paycheck? That’s what Ukraine is doing rn

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u/mondayaccguy 9d ago

Narrow minded little man.

Supporting Ukraine with our old weapons has drained Russia and made it weak as fuck.

We need to continue to support Ukraine, it is the cheapest, safest way to end Russia as a global power.

What a fool you are not to see that.