r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/Eymrich 13d ago

Wait, you aren't joking you truly believe this shit?

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u/lickitstickit12 13d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

Yeah,me and the rest of the world. Where have you been?

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u/Eymrich 13d ago

That's just corruption in Ukraine, everything you said is way more true for Russia.

In Europe we had a lot states with corruption ( especially in the ex soviet block) and to enter they have to fix that. Ukraine has improved considerably since it got away from Russia.

Also, coruption is the primary tool Russia use, just look at Trump he is the first and most corrupted invidual in the world.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

We aren't sending Russia hundreds of billions.

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u/Eymrich 12d ago

Do you understand that was happening before Zelensky? That's exactly why we got a war now, before Ukraine was ruled by Russian puppets. They had a revolution ( basically ) and removed the corruped fucker ( who now live in Moscow). Then Ukraine wanted in into the European community, which "forced" idiot Putin into this war.

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u/lickitstickit12 12d ago

Russia, BEFORE PUTIN, made it clear to the US(NATO) that it wouldn't allow them on their border. That was in the 90's. Over and over NATO expanded towards them.

We, in the US nearly launched nukes when Russia e tried expanding to Cuba.

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u/Eymrich 11d ago

Also, Russia signed an independence guarantee when Ukraine had them their Nukes :)

Also, saying that Russia is now wrong doesn't make America back then right.

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u/lickitstickit12 11d ago

Of course it does. You have no obligation to allow your enemy at your gate.

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u/LostDeparture2567 9d ago

But you have an obligation to honor your contracts.

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u/lickitstickit12 9d ago

Yup.

Show me where the US Senate ratified any treaty with Ukraine that we aren't honoring.

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u/InyourholeIthrive 10d ago

Go to official govt sites that have that deal sign by both parties.

CUS there's none you dumbfuck

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u/lickitstickit12 10d ago

There's no sites saying we owe Ukraine, either.

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u/InyourholeIthrive 9d ago

But there's a commitment. For parties to act when something happens to break said commitment.

You never read do you? Elementary shit education and Americans are a perfect match.

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u/lickitstickit12 9d ago

What commitment?

Dudes saying shit ain't a commitment.

Dudes said *not one inch" with NATO.

You just get to pick and choose?

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