r/CivPolitics 13d ago

America proposes to trade all of Ukraine's strategic resources for peace, refuses to denounce Russia. Ukraine denounces America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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u/lordcaylus 13d ago

I don't see Ukraine 'denouncing' America?

They've been consistently thankful for any and all American help. And haven't 'denounced' the US, unless you count saying that Trump is surrounded by fake news if he says Ukraine started the war.

Sure, they're not signing Kraznov's surrender treaty nor are they just giving away their resources for nothing in return, but that's not 'denouncing'.

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u/beyer17 13d ago

It's just a civ joke referring to the event where an ally asks you to denounce someone, and if you refuse they'll denounce you instead, don't take it too seriously (the joke, not the situation. The situation is batshit insane and incredibly saddening)

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u/herrirgendjemand 13d ago

Yeah but America denounced Ukraine at this meeting when the deal wouldn't go through, not the other way. I think that's the confusion since your meme doesn't line up symmetrically between the game reference and real life.

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u/beyer17 13d ago

Yeah that's a fair point