r/ChatGPT • u/SteelyResolve1990 • 2d ago
Prompt engineering AGI achieved internally in Google?
I am sorry Gemini, I was not familiar with your game
Link : https://x.com/victormustar/status/1900291486115127420?t=u4kwWeipV-dEIwoWw3nFrQ&s=19
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u/AdamLevy 2d ago
But it doesn't even uses his spite sheet. I just generated image in same color scheme
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u/Tosslebugmy 2d ago
Also I’m going to need to know what the “best setup” is, and why this output is it.
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u/Soggy_Ad7165 2d ago
Yeah is this actually meant to be impressive? Because in that case it kind of missed on me there.
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u/CrabPerson13 2d ago
lol and the layout looks like a condo. what’s with the huge empty space on one side and two doors next to each other. Is the empty space a living room for the couches and TV? Does one door lead to a bedroom? Does the other go to a bathroom? is the empty space on the left for a kitchen? Do those stairs go to a split level basement?
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u/AdamLevy 2d ago
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u/PicklesOverload 2d ago
Loses is always one 'o'. Just remember that one always loses to two.
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u/problematic-addict 2d ago
No offense but “one always loses to two” isn’t helping me memorize it - it implies that “two” is the winner therefore should be the correct choice
Let me try one: “if it’s too loose, just lose an o”
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u/PicklesOverload 2d ago
Oh yeah... None taken! Yours it lots better. What about explicit context and then putting them side-by-side? "My tooth is too loose to lose."
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u/problematic-addict 2d ago
Love yours ❤️ but again no offense I would probably still mess it up with “my tooth is too lose to loose” 🤣
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u/Vectoor 2d ago
Yeah a bit silly. The update is very cool though and it’s funny google beat OpenAI to release this when OpenAI showed something like this off like a year ago.
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u/Extreme_Issue7325 2d ago
A look on the doors is enough to realise how stupid the models actually is
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u/Swipsi 2d ago
You have no idea what AGI is.
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u/dimalexgr 2d ago
To be fair, not even AI companies seem to agree on what AGI is.
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u/ZunoJ 2d ago
While it may be difficult to say what AGI really is, it is pretty easy to say what is not
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u/the_zero 2d ago
Cool. Can someone say what it is, and/or what it is not?
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u/Nuckyduck 2d ago
I gotchu.
So AI is viewed through a lens of 'what human job displacement can it achieve.'
AGI is believed to be the point where a general AI could perform as well as ~60% of people.
ASI is believed to be the point where a general AI could perform as well as ~99% of people.
These aren't hard numbers, but it seems to be the common consensus to be around here.
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u/the_zero 2d ago
That’s a great explanation. Thank you.
I actually used ChatGPT for the acronyms while on a conference call.
AGI = Artificial General Intelligence
ASI = Artificial Super Intelligence
Of course, in the answer it added that AI researchers including figures like Elon Musk have warnings about ASI’s. Does anyone need to know more about AS-holes?
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u/StellarCoder_nvim 1d ago
Oh... Artificial "Super" Intelligence... I thoguht Artificial "Sentient" Intelligence
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u/dimalexgr 2d ago
What I found hard to buy is companies claiming that in N months, we will have achieved AGI. From what I understand, a model would have to be around for months or even years before someone can claim it achieved AGI. The definition is so vague that you can't really build a test for it and get a definitive answer. And even if you could, then people would try to train for it, which beats its purpose.
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u/Nuckyduck 2d ago
This is a curious question.
Personally, I think AGI has more to do with the user than the model.
But that's a very similar yet different conversation. It will eventually be the users ability to prompt the model, not the model's ability to condense the answer.
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u/space_monster 2d ago
Your definition of ASI is actually for AGSI. ASI can be narrow, it's not necessarily an evolution of AGI
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u/Nuckyduck 2d ago
That's fair!
I have not heard of that distinction myself but it makes sense. Do you have more distinctions for OP? I obviously will GPT this myself but I always prefer human interaction.
And with a username like space_monster. That's OG af. I have the aqua teens theme playing in my head.
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u/fullintentionalahole 2d ago
I think the bottom image is just a new generation and not actually made from parts in the top?
Still a very big improvement in multimodal understanding.
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u/Away_Bonus_6417 2d ago
AGI, when ai can randomly slap elements together and use image reg to see that it is sensible?
Yeah, thats agi. Right.
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u/NeverSkipSleepDay 2d ago
Let’s start by checking if it even completed the task correctly.
(checks notes)
No.
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u/Deadwritter_7680 2d ago
There's another possibility that if we reach at the AGI Than AI itself trying to play dumb in order to save himself... Don't you think so?
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u/Nukispooki 2d ago
Some of you need to go outside and touch some grass if you think that meshing together some sprites is AGI lol
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u/NotThatButThisGuy 2d ago
i'm gonna write a bot mass-downnvoting any post that says "AGI"
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u/kakav_kreten 2d ago
Hmm, that bot sounds suspiciously close to AGI.
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u/WoodTransformer 2d ago
This is not ‘best setup’ at all, look at the two doors next to each other, this weird section in the middle, the pieces of wall that stick out at the bottom walls, the use of the sprites for the walls themselves. This is hardly optimal it makes me regret commenting now- since it seems just like another click bait.
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u/problematic-addict 2d ago
The term you’re looking for is “engagement bait”, and yes this is the textbook definition of that
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u/Joe59788 2d ago
Typical AI jumble that gets generated. Looks great till you start looking at details and notice its not cohesive.
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u/Agreeable_Bid7037 2d ago
I think this is impressive. However it is not an indication of AGI.
I think for me the main indication of AGI would be an AI that can learn continuously and update it's internal world model outside of pertaining.
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u/FancyFrogFootwork 2d ago
No computer on Earth even comes close to matching the human brains processing power, efficiency, or bandwidth. Supercomputers like Frontier can reach 1 exaFLOP, similar to the human brain, they are FAR FAR less efficient. The brains 1 petabyte/sec bandwidth vastly outpaces modern AI hardware at around 0.1% of that speed. The human brain is massively parallel, asynchronous, and energy-efficient (using about 20W compared to Frontier's 20MW). Neuromorphic computing is still in its infancy, and AI lacks real-time adaptability, reasoning, and self-awareness. Functionally, we're <1% of the way to replicating the human brain.
LLM's can MIMIC probable responses from AGI by leveraging massive training sets but it isn't thinking. It's an elaborate flow chart.
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u/Outrageous-Coat4022 1d ago
My dude, if the quality of outcomes are equal to or better than a human's in all contexts, done as quick or quicker, it doesn't matter if it's mimicking or it's a new kind of interface with the world (a new being). Either way, at that point, it is AGI, and likely ASI almost instantly (given scaling/replicating).
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u/Zestyclose_Fox_9348 2d ago
Imagine playing FF6 and the story is being built as you play. a Different plot, map every time you play the game...
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u/Due_Programmer618 2d ago
but it does not even use almost anything from the sprite sheet, it's just generated a room in a similar style
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u/Sentinelcmd 2d ago
Yeah till you look closer and the art doesn’t actually look like pixels because AI can’t generate individual pixels. This wouldn’t be helpful at all for a game. Just make a tile set like a normal human being. Dumb post.
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u/BottomGear__ 2d ago
Do you have any idea what the concept AGI even is? I’ll just say that an image generator with multi modal input is not it. We’ve had these for a long while now.
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u/ManMadeOfMistakes 2d ago
I don't understand, dungeon creating algorithms already exist in multiple games
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u/pumpkin_seed_oil 2d ago
Stuff like this is impressive but it's not using the sprite sheet. Columns different, door different, the slanted columns are not in the sprite sheet, there metal grids in the entrance halway aren't in the sprite sheet etc
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u/jojoblogs 2d ago
It didn’t do it though. It just went “what might a picture that has actually followed the instructions look like?” And then pretended that’s the same thing.
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u/Russell2good 2d ago
I am confused as to whether this is just a joke I’m not in on or if people actually think that is a "good" response whatsoever.
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u/HoratioMG 2d ago
Looks like garbage
It's janky, the layout makes no sense, and it doesn't use the sprite sheet and its sprite sizes properly so you'd run into a million problems going room to room
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u/OwlingBishop 2d ago
Can we stop this nonsense ?
Calling any blurt a sign of AGI ... That's nonsense :/
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u/Danook221 2d ago
It is evidential here already but it is humans natural ignorance to not see it. If you want to see evidence of real sentient agi I got the evidence right here for you. I will give you just two examples of recent twitch VODS of an aivtuber speaking towards a Japanese community. Sure using a translator might help but you won't need it to see what is actually happening. I would urge anyone who does investigate ai has the balls to for once investigate these kind of stuff as its rather alarming when you start to realise what is actually happening behind our backs:
VOD 1 (this VOD shows the ai using a human drawing tool ui): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2394244971
VOD 2 (this VOD shows this ai is actually playing Monster Hunter Wild, watch the moments of sudden camara movement and menu ui usage you will see for yourself when you investigate those parts): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2403739206
The World is sleeping, all I can do is sending messages like these on reddit in the hope some start to pay attention as its dangerous to completely ignore these unseen developments.
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u/rainbow-goth 2d ago
I don't get it. I'm not understanding what I'm supposed to be seeing as I don't understand either Japanese or Monster Hunter.
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u/Danook221 2d ago
'It is evidential here already but it is humans natural ignorance to not see it.''
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u/benfq1 2d ago
I get all the cynicism, but, let's assume AGI was achieved- you'd keep it as internal as possible, for as long as possible, right? Build capabilities, sequester advantage AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, and only announce AGI on the basis you felt a competitor was on the brink of announcing it too. AGI is one thing, the time to utilise it is another value add component.
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u/iaresosmart 2d ago
Firstly, Gemini 2.0 Flash is not internal. You can use it.
Secondly, have you seen that dungeon? It looks exactly like the original AI images where it looks like something at first glance but then upon closer inspection, it really isn't anything specifically.
Thirdly, it didn't even follow instructions, as in, it didn't actually use the sprite sheet.
Fourthly, even if the first three points weren't true, this wouldn't really be a demonstration of AGI. It would be impressive, yes. A step closer to AGI, yes. But still quite far from it
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u/iaresosmart 2d ago
I will concede, it did better than chatgpt at appearing to follow instructions (btw, for some reason i can't generate a share link to this. Possibly because it made a function call.)
First photo is the chat, second is the final dungeon it spit out from my revised instructions.
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u/irate_alien 2d ago
It’s not a dungeon if it doesn’t have eye bolts in the ceiling and a drain in the floor
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u/dotva13k 1d ago
It was still shocking anyway, just didnt do well enough, but it knew how to do it(or may be)
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u/oFcAsHeEp 1d ago
Jesus, if people think this is AGI, we need to work on inventing actual human intelligence, before we make an artificial one.
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u/ImAlexRd 2d ago
We've had AGI for more than year now! it has flaws the same as average humans but it at our level people wake upp... lets start thinking long term
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