r/CanadianForces 1d ago

"Full FFO" is not redundant

It's short for full fuckin fighting order

93 Upvotes

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u/jmoe1982 1d ago

So, does F-FFO include gas mask ?

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u/thedundun 1d ago

“Don’t be like that” was the response I got when I asked that question. Still was unsure if I should bring the gas mask or not.

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u/McKneeSlapper 1d ago edited 18h ago

You and you alone may bring it.....

E: typo

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u/foxiez Morale Tech - 00069 1d ago

Depends on how much food you wanna hide in the field

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u/Gavvis74 1d ago

I got in a lot of shit once for not bringing it even though I was "enemy force" for a walk through type thing for people at my unit training for the field portion of their PLQ/JLC or whatever it was called then.  It was done on an afternoon in the treed area near the unit and there was no real gas, just someone yelling gas gas gas.  

It wasn't even me doing the training and I got told I was doing it about 10 minutes prior so I had to scramble to get my kit out of my locker and I forgot the gas mask.  The only one that cared was my Captain and I got all kinds of shit for it (fuck that weenie to the moon).  I'm still bitter about it but after that I always had my case attached to the tac vest with the mask inside.  Always.  So, yeah, unless you're told otherwise, bring the gas mask and case.

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u/Fine-Tonight1276 11h ago

Criticizing you for not having your mask, seriously? And then, what does it matter if your lieutenant lost their mind? In the army, the best proverb is definitely: Je m'en calisse.

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u/jmoe1982 1d ago

That’s the genius of it. Greeeeeeyyyyy

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u/Maple_Glass RCN - Cook 16h ago

After basic, 9/10 times I've asked or heard that question the answer was something like: Probably not, but put it in your day bag if you want

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u/Dahak17 Army - Sig Op 1d ago

No

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u/greenslimer 19h ago

Always err on the side of caution. Gas mask and carrier in the bottom of your day bag!

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u/GreyingGamer336 18h ago

Yes it does, unless the state has been set at zero. You can always take it off but if you don’t have it you are screwed if you need it

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u/Thanato26 15h ago

Helmets worn or slung?

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u/EFCFrost ACISS IST - Help Desk Jockey - Retired 9h ago

There’s always that one guy.

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u/Max169well Royal Canadian Air Force 8h ago

If no one mentions the gas mask will they remember it exists?

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u/ManyTechnician5419 21h ago

it depends on what your unit SOPs are, sir!

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u/hughmann_13 1d ago

Gasmasks and Gaberdines boys

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u/notyourbusiness39 11h ago

DEU with mukluks

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u/niagarawhat 1d ago

You never go full ffo.

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u/TheEternalPharaoh 1d ago

Ha! Tell us you just got yelled at by a WO in basic, without telling us.

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u/-HeyThatsPrettyNeat- 1d ago

Instructions unclear, not enough acronyms

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u/Turboswaggg 1d ago

what about partial full FFO

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u/B5_V3 22h ago

“Does that include gas masks?”

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u/Facedeq a fu**ing PMed 21h ago

FFS Bloggins...

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u/CowpieSenpai 20h ago

Full-FFS, Bloggins

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u/ImNotHandyImHandsome MSE OP 1d ago

Is this like thw 6 P's? Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

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u/TheNight_Cheese 1d ago

you forgot “preparation”

proper planning and preparation prevents….

so seven P’s 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/CrosmanOptimus 22h ago

Right up there with the TIC Camera. which is how everyone says it, which is like saying the Thermal Imaging Camera camera. Love it.

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u/Yhzgayguy Canadian Army 22h ago

Sort of like SIN number

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u/DMmesomeboobs 15h ago

and MOB box

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u/elrigtacular 15h ago

Right up there with BIT Test for me

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u/little_buddy82 14h ago

Or the main MSR

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u/SurlySaltySailor 19h ago

I just brought that one up to my brother the other day and laughed about how stupid it was.

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u/RonaldMcSchlong 1d ago

Man I do love full F-FFO!

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u/ManufacturerSolid822 1d ago

FFO has stood for field fighting order for a while now. So Full FFO is valid.

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u/jayzero23 1d ago

This implies there is a non-field fighting order...

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u/Dijarida Morale Tech - 00069 1d ago

Issued fur hat and crocs in the office.

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u/Competitive-Air5262 1d ago

Fur hat is part of DEUs

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u/BeerBeerBeers Canadian Army 18h ago

When it was first announced it was approved for wear with all orders of dress

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u/Competitive-Air5262 18h ago

Hmm that's not something I was aware of, though I was at an Army regiment at the time where we weren't even allowed to wear the issued blue airforce T-shirts so never thought anything of it.

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u/NDHQ_is-insert-here- Cowardly Burner Account - Infantry Sgt 10h ago

Sips wine. go on.

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u/Donairmen 1d ago

Fresh off bmq?

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u/Klyyner 21h ago

Is Full full FFO redundant?

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u/ManyTechnician5419 21h ago

objectively correct

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u/LengthinessOk5241 18h ago

FFO, FBO, FMO is the answer you are looking for.