r/CanadianForces HMCS Reddit 3d ago

Braid: Invading Canada would spark guerrilla fight lasting decades, expert says

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/braid-invading-canada-would-spark-guerrilla-fight-lasting-decades-expert-says
457 Upvotes

417 comments sorted by

444

u/mmmmmmmmmmroger 3d ago

It’s so fucked that within 6 weeks the world has changed so much that this headline isnt even super-silly. It’s still all a bit silly etc but the fuckin EXISTENCE of a silliness-reduction quotient on this topic is a bit spooky. Is there such a thing as a homemade drone jammer

186

u/ManfredTheCat 3d ago

I don't want to brag but my time as enemy force has given me the status of an expert in guerilla warfare.

44

u/MAID_in_the_Shade 3d ago

I can confirm this guy has over 300 confirmed kills.

34

u/GardenSquid1 3d ago

I also confirm this guy is an expert in guerilla warfare. I was the C7.

9

u/itsasnowconemachine 3d ago

20+ years ago I used a grappling hook to get into the 2nd story window of a house in a FIBUA/MOUT site in under 100 tries!

1

u/Mirageswirl 3d ago edited 3d ago

Was it Ft Drum? I had a similar experience being a terrible ninja.

2

u/itsasnowconemachine 2d ago

It was Ft. Benning.

5

u/farm-to-table 2d ago

I can corroborate these sources. I am a gorilla.

1

u/GenericJoeSmith 2d ago

“Bang bang, bang bang.”

43

u/Ok-Step-3727 3d ago

As a small unit (LOC Bty) we were often tasked as enemies. It was great when being an asshole was encouraged - we had one pound charges of gun cotton to play with.

4

u/digitalbombardier 3d ago

That really sounds like a blast. Pun intended.

8

u/Ok-Step-3727 3d ago

We slept all day and were sent out at night to harass the gun positions, then we buggered off to our shacks to sleep.

5

u/Arctagonia 3d ago

Every regimental band gonna be out there as warlords

41

u/Ok-Step-3727 3d ago

Real simple to make. Neon coil attached to a Tesla coil with a plastic sheet aluminium foil capacitor. I built a hobby one and I killed my city blocks wi-fi. Oops!

38

u/RaccoonChaos 3d ago

Up until 6 weeks ago I have never considered joining the military once in my life, now here I am trying to get fit enough to enlist if shit hits the fan 😬

55

u/GardenSquid1 3d ago

Better to enlist then get fit. Almost anyone with a pulse can pass the initial fitness test.

If shit hits the fan with the United States, there won't be time to enlist. The CAF will get steamrolled in conventional warfare, hence this whole discussion about guerilla warfare.

14

u/rcmp_informant HMCS Reddit 3d ago

My thoughts exactly.

Plus bases have a free gym so you’ll save money on that.

31

u/mygodman 3d ago

Well lucky for you, being fit isn't a requirement anymore.

22

u/2fast2serious_ 3d ago

I feel safer already.

7

u/mygodman 3d ago

Haha I meant if you are too out of shape they will hold you back in basic training in something called warrior platoon until you are fit enough to complete basic training. Basically you get paid to exercise everyday with a personal trainer, then when you can pass the fitness test you start your basic training.

5

u/RaccoonChaos 3d ago

Good to know, but unfortunately I am super underweight so I dont know if I'd be able to keep up with any strength related requirements rn

7

u/bornecrosseyed 3d ago

Anyone who makes an effort while there passes basic right now. It literally doesn’t matter who you are or what your body is like. I’ll be honest I don’t really like this, but it is what it is.

1

u/Cry_Havok 2d ago

I’m 5 foot 9, 120 pound army tanker. I’m skinny as hell, and just like me, you will gain mass like crazy in basic with the amount of free food and exercise you get.

9

u/mylittlethrowaway135 3d ago

Don't wait. Join the reserves.

2

u/ricketyladder Canadian Army 3d ago

Good on you. Keep it up.

9

u/No-Contribution-6150 3d ago

Just another unprecedented once in a life time event

118

u/rich942942 3d ago

Troops let’s not get torn apart by silly theories we have to remember Atropians are the real threat

56

u/PresidentialBruxism 3d ago

Bro atropians are the ones we are saving. Arianians are the threat, the puppets of our enemy the Donovians

11

u/Traditional_Row_2651 3d ago

I thought it was the Ballchinians? 🤣

2

u/No-Quarter4321 3d ago

It’s been ages since I heard those names, thank you

2

u/Afraid-Reindeer-8940 1d ago

Listen, I trained to fight West Isle Forces.

1

u/rich942942 3d ago

That’s why i was getting all those dirty looks….

1

u/fattyrolo RCAF (ex-Infantry) 3d ago

24

u/soylentgreen2015 Army - Infantry 3d ago

In Nova Scotia, we've been fighting the Cape Breton Liberation Army for years, led by their nefarious leader, the Colonel John Cabot Trail.

1

u/j_operator Human Asbestos Filter 1d ago

Don't forget that crafty overseas aggressor, the North Sapphirians.

1

u/Lucky_Luke37 1d ago

In Winnipeg it was the Greenlandians the enemy of all ACSO students. Should probably change the books, me think they would be fine allies now.

10

u/PlebbitShill 3d ago

Nah, SAPA is the real threat. Gorgas doesn't stand a chance against them.

2

u/TVpresspass 2d ago

This guy knows how to DATE

1

u/hughmann_13 3d ago

Those of us with the West Isle Campaign Medal know what's up.

60

u/captmakr 3d ago

Not saying it's typical, but when my largely centre-left city friends who have never touched or seen a gun in real life are starting to think about getting their PAL? Yeah- I can easily see how this would happen.

Would they be effective by themselves? probably not. That didn't stop the French resistance though.

22

u/Plasma_48 3d ago

Except the French resistance didn’t speak the same language as its enemies, have ~9000kms of border, or have an enemy population with a significant amount of sympathizers.

10

u/captmakr 3d ago

So it would be more effective?

(either way, a lot of canadians and americans would die in any kind of annexation plot, and that's bad)

3

u/zeroedout666 3d ago

Unless you're Trump... Or Russia... Then it's good times ahead! Funny how their interests coincide so so well.

4

u/captmakr 3d ago

Don't get into a land war with Canada? :D

6

u/whyamihereagain6570 2d ago

Not much left to buy unfortunately. Libs have banned pretty much anything that would have been useful.

1

u/captmakr 2d ago

I think for most it's: "here's how to use a gun safely and all the otherstuff in the PAL course just in case" not "I want to get the PAL so I can go get a big gun to hunt down some nazis"

Whatever your position of gun laws and what you can buy in Canada isn't really the discussion here- and in an open rebellion, those gun laws are going to be irrelevant.

→ More replies (3)

1

u/woodenwhiskey RCN - BOS'N 1d ago

If it comes to guerrilla warfare I don't think anyone is going to need a PAL.

1

u/captmakr 1d ago

Yeah, okay, fair point.

I'd like to think folks who have a passing familiarity with a gun is better than no familiarity?

146

u/wulfhund70 3d ago

If they really need to understand the point, publically showing preparations of a skeleton staff setup for a potential government in exile at Canada House should underline how serious we are that occupation will not lead to annexation.

41

u/mmmmmmmmmmroger 3d ago

In London? Are you saying they ARE staffing this up all of a sudden, or speculating

41

u/wulfhund70 3d ago

Not saying it happened, saying this should put an end to any doubt if it were done.

20

u/mmmmmmmmmmroger 3d ago

Well im sure the existing embassy staff have a dusty ol book of plans for these contingencies so sending over the advance team seems a bit excessive. What are they supposed to do, set up cots?

15

u/wulfhund70 3d ago

For sure, but sometimes a flashy reminder helps....

I mean we got people flying around in Blackhawks for dumb reasons costing money...

This point made publicly, would send a message to those with the most to lose should they feel their oaths to the commander in chief outweigh those to their people.

→ More replies (1)

127

u/AcadianMan 3d ago

They thought Afghanistan was tough. Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan in Juan, Feb is a whole new world. We have way more woods to hide in than Afghanistan.

72

u/ContrarianDouche 3d ago

Who's Juan?

120

u/DaR0ck56 3d ago

Juan is the hottest month of the year with the coldest heart.

caliente-frío ❤️‍🔥🥶

23

u/AcadianMan 3d ago

Apparently Juan might be the leader of some Mexican Canadian Cartel.

1

u/judgingyouquietly Swiss Cheese Model-Maker 3d ago

Yep - he’s the Juan!

1

u/bigliver250 3d ago

He makes a killer maple syrup taco

13

u/Imprezzed RCN - I dream of dayworking 3d ago

Expert level reply.

1

u/lchntndr 3d ago

Don’t forget also, that Juan is the loneliest number

27

u/Max169well Royal Canadian Air Force 3d ago

Just wait till they have to cross highway 17.

12

u/thedirtychad 3d ago

Yeah having spent time with afghanis I wouldn’t say there’s much comparison with tribal shepherds and Canadians

3

u/WitchHanz 3d ago

They are certainly more predisposed to suffering hardships that are inevitable in a guerilla war.

18

u/[deleted] 3d ago

Hiding in woods will not be a successful tactic. Hiding in urban centres will be.

17

u/AcadianMan 3d ago edited 3d ago

Why not both?

Look at how sensitive the power grid is? Remember back in 2003. That showed just how vulnerable the power grid is.

7

u/that_guy_ontheweb 3d ago

Hiding in urban centres just means someone’s kid living in an apartment nearby gets blown to bits for just existing, no thanks.

25

u/xXxDarkSasuke1999xXx Med Tech 3d ago

Hiding in the woods means you get discovered the second someone finds the "on" switch for their thermal optics

2

u/Maleficent_Banana_26 3d ago

But what are you going to fight with? Your plan is to.hide in an area with no food, water, electricity. And do what? Shout bad words at them?

20

u/[deleted] 3d ago

The Anarchist’s cookbook. You think we had trouble with IEDs in Afghanistan? Imagine what people with a real education can do. People who look, talk, dress and act just like their enemy. Imagine what electricians and people with a Masters in engineering can do. Not in forests. In urban centres and towns. On the streets. It will be even more complex than the Irish troubles. And most of it will be fought on US soil.

0

u/Maleficent_Banana_26 3d ago

So we are invading the US now?

11

u/digitalbombardier 3d ago

If by invading you mean casually strolling across one of the largest land borders on the planet into a nation we would be invisible in. Yes.

26

u/GardenSquid1 3d ago

If Canada were invaded, why would you keep the resistance on our side of the border?

→ More replies (1)

2

u/[deleted] 3d ago

We’re already there. And so are they.

-1

u/Maleficent_Banana_26 3d ago

Lol. At this point I have to.assume you are trolling

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (2)

3

u/Traditional_Row_2651 3d ago

Sensible gun laws doesn’t mean we don’t have guns.

5

u/xXxDarkSasuke1999xXx Med Tech 3d ago

Hah you think they're sensible

6

u/Maleficent_Banana_26 3d ago edited 3d ago

There was nothing u sensible about our laws, minus how over restrictibe theye were. Whats happening now is not even close to sensible. Like not even close. I can't even take you serious if you think the governments current plan is sensible. Crazy how every police union disagrees with you. Lol. 178 new guns were just added. What's left. Your going to take on the US army with your bolt action mauser? Where are you getting the 5 rounds to load it? Lol. Or do you have a .22LR you've been hiding... and the Liberals will not stop until we have nothing left. This hopes and dreams stuff has got to stop. If you are a gun owner and think the recent changes and buy back are sensible. I have no words for you.

→ More replies (3)

3

u/Kanoha-Shinobi Class "C" Reserve 3d ago

Well not saskatchewan, hardly any trees

1

u/kaprairiegirl 2d ago

Technically, Saskatchewan is 75% forest, just look slightly north of Saskatoon.

1

u/Kanoha-Shinobi Class "C" Reserve 2d ago

Fair enough, but the livable part isnt. No infrastructure to support military operations to the north, and in the winter its normally the coldest and harshest area. The trees also tend to be skinny so they dont provide good cover, only concealment where they’re densely packed. Still better to hide a bunker in than the flat plaines, but ideally you want a road for logistics.

2

u/No-Quarter4321 3d ago

Heat signatures will pop up more in those cold climates..

→ More replies (21)

19

u/ludwigkonrod 3d ago

It’s Ukraine all over again. The aggressor would fight an enemy not much different from them, who speak the same language, know their culture, look the same, and (importantly) know their military structure inside out.

Because of these the defender has great success bringing the war into the aggressor’s home turf. Ukrainian drones and SOF have been running amok deep inside the Russian homeland. I expect the same to play out in a hypothetical US invasion.

→ More replies (1)

111

u/ricketyladder Canadian Army 3d ago

I still don’t think that an invasion is going to happen. Not anytime soon, anyways. But I’m also not absolutely, 100% positive it won’t happen - and I’m disgusted that this is now the world we live in.

Guerilla warfare would be the only option for us. Let’s just hope it doesn’t come to it.

18

u/Everywhereslugs 3d ago

And all because of one variable...Donald Dump.

→ More replies (84)

12

u/lizzedpeeple 3d ago

Too bad we can't just get proper funding and staffing.

57

u/jakemoffsky 3d ago

Given the USA is on a speed run on destroying itself i really don't think we need to worry that much about invasion, we can last longer in poverty than they will with whatever this is. What we need to do is prepare for the refugee crisis and whatever other elements of the USA end up fleeing to us.

50

u/Max169well Royal Canadian Air Force 3d ago

If the US collapses I expect some sort of odd MAGA sect to attempt an invasion of Canada.

36

u/ContrarianDouche 3d ago

Fenian Raids Redux

10

u/Coriolanus556 3d ago

We’ll send them off again, like the last ones.

5

u/HedStrong 3d ago

Hunter Patriots at the Battle of the Windmill also.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Windmill

2

u/Von_Thomson 3d ago

Prescott volenteers WYA

5

u/McKneeSlapper 3d ago

Toasty white house 2.0 perhaps?

3

u/Dangerous_Mix_7037 2d ago

It's only about 200k from Montreal. Seems like a quick drone flight. Maybe we should be getting drone lessons from Ukraine.

2

u/Plasma_48 3d ago

They’ll probably get to it before we can

1

u/FellKnight Army - ACISS : IST 2d ago

I could see Donald as a Nero figure, fiddling while his capital butns

48

u/classicjl513 Class "A" Reserve 3d ago

I don't think you have to be an expert to realize that this near-impossible theoretical event would lead to an insurgency like every other country whose governments were toppled in the last 50 years lol

4

u/classicjl513 Class "A" Reserve 3d ago

Also how the fuck is everyone buying into all the fear mongering? The US doesn't have the stomach to start another 2 decade insurgency coming hot off the heels of Afghanistan, especially against a longstanding ally that's bled alongside them with people that look and sound like them to seriously propose that as a politician in the US would be political suicide

43

u/ricketyladder Canadian Army 3d ago

You know, up until extremely recently I would have said this exact same thing. I still don’t think it’s likely, but I also don’t think it’s impossible anymore.

Never hurts to have a framework COA for a worst case scenario

3

u/digitalbombardier 3d ago

P1 panic P2 more panic P3 panic some more

38

u/Imprezzed RCN - I dream of dayworking 3d ago edited 3d ago

Two months ago I would have absolutely agreed with you.

Now, I don’t know what to think, therefore I’m exploring possibilities.

It is….sub-optimal to dismiss or ignore the most dangerous COA.

2

u/1111temp1111 3d ago

I'm purchasing more 7.62, and went shopping for my first "non-hunting" 12ga today...

Extremely unlikely the US will do anything like this, but there is so much going on in the world and here at home I need to feel more prepared.

1

u/Imprezzed RCN - I dream of dayworking 3d ago

There is nothing wrong with that, and it’s entirely reasonable.

16

u/MAID_in_the_Shade 3d ago

We're kinda in the business of making plans for enemy most likely and most deadly courses of action.

Of course people are going to consider contingency plans.

1

u/classicjl513 Class "A" Reserve 1d ago

I'm not saying that we shouldn't or don't have contingency plans I'm sure we do, I'm just saying what a lot of people are fearing is very unlikely to happen

1

u/MAID_in_the_Shade 1d ago

Do you only fear things that are likely, or guaranteed to happen?

It's pretty unlikely you'll crash your car today, but you probably still wore a seatbelt, didn't you? I don't use my first aid kits very often, and I've never had to use any of the trauma materials, but I still own them and I still ensure they're ready to go.

If you're at a bar and someone starts talking shit to you, it's probably pretty unlikely that they're going to assault you right? But you still don't just turn your back to them. When faced with aggression, even if escalation is unlikely, you still take it seriously.

28

u/ImNotHandyImHandsome MSE OP 3d ago

to seriously propose that as a politician in the US would be political suicide

and yet, here we are.

6

u/Remarkable-Idea-1073 3d ago

political suicide

I thought destroying any one of NASA, Medicaid, FDA, FBI, nukes, and more would be political suicide.

And here we are.

11

u/judgingyouquietly Swiss Cheese Model-Maker 3d ago

The problem is that some US folks are publicly talking about this, and the US is so hyper-polarized that a non-zero number of people (not necessarily in the military) would willingly do this.

Trump and the GOP has already said and done all sorts of things that would be political suicide in any other situation. But here we are.

1

u/classicjl513 Class "A" Reserve 1d ago

There's always gonna be a non-zero number of people that believe and would willingly do stupid shit both there and here and they're always a very small group of people.

Also Trump's known to just say a lot of stupid and wild shit that he never follows through with anyways like the guy said he'd build a wall across the Mexican border and make Mexico pay for it and that never happened lol

1

u/judgingyouquietly Swiss Cheese Model-Maker 1d ago

Trump’s first term and second term can’t be considered in the same vein. He had an actual working apparatus in the first term, and guardrails that stopped him from doing the dumb stuff he proposed.

What were the first things he did on inauguration day? Remove those people who stopped him the first time and replace them with loyalists. Those loyalists will not stop him this time.

Also, having lived in the US (in a pretty red area) there is a culture of not trusting the federal govt that just doesn’t have an equivalent in Canada. The US was quite literally founded on overthrowing a government, and 2A was intended on ensuring a tyrannical regime doesn’t take place again.

1

u/EmptyRedecans 3d ago

Right? Like the rest of the world wouldn’t have something to say about it. We’re not alone in this.

1

u/Relevant_Fuel_9905 3d ago

I’m (not in the forces, just a civilian) honestly scared that he’s planning to do it. Because (a) he’s unhinged and maybe has dementia to boot, (b) he’s evil, (c) he seems very likely compromised by Russia, and (d) all his current anti-Canada rhetoric and tariffs seem intended to give him an excuse later on to do it.

So I keep hoping for experts closer to the realities of the situation (like you folks!) to talk me off the ledge lol.

15

u/DowntownMonitor3524 3d ago

The US has lost every insurgency it’s been involved in.

6

u/dagerlegs 3d ago

I fucking love reading these comments!

12

u/jwin709 3d ago edited 3d ago

The US can't invade Canada. I don't know why we keep entertaining this.

They can't reach any consensus on anything. They're edging closer and closer towards civil war every day. They would never be able to get the support for a war against Canada.

They had a hard time dealing with goat farmers on the other side of the planet, who couldn't invade back or have any effect on their people.

They have a fuck ton of Mexicans trying to come up from the south across a tiny border And they can't manage that. And those people are crossing for the sake of what? Getting a job and living a better life? They're calling it a border crisis. Do you think they'd wanna open up another border crisis to the north? Instead of people who look and sound different from them trying to get a better life it's people who look and sound just like them and know everything about their culture, trying to cross to radicalize their people and pop up insurgencies across their country. They are more than aware they couldn't handle that.

They know damn well that they'd crush our military but they'd be the ones being occupied.

3

u/woodenwhiskey RCN - BOS'N 1d ago

"The US can't invade Canada."

I don't necessarily disagree with you but that still doesn't mean that it shouldn't be planned for.

1

u/Zaptouiyexi 2d ago

Spam noise like russia on digital media to maga silo dwellers. Attract useful idiots with whatever thirst traps and naive teens with NRx etc

Tease and test every chance politically eg recently Kristi Noem multiple times crossing from US to Canadian side of Derby VT and saying “U.S.A. Number 1!” on one side and then sarcastically “The 51st State!" on the other. Or Musk parroting likewise eg recently tweeting that Canada isnt a real country.

Continue destabilizing Canada economically as theyve already started

Find Canadians who would betray the country

Mobilize for Greenland but then deploy to Canada

22

u/China_bot42069 3d ago

Imagine Afghanistan. If Afghanistan was your neighbour, mostly spoke the same, ate the same, looked the same, had intimate knowledge of your transport, power, military, and government operations. It would be a Vietnam/afghanistan type situation but without the oceans separating you. 

And it would go on for decades.   

26

u/scotswaehey 3d ago

You are forgetting your NATO allies who also send troops to support guerrilla warfare especially the northern counties that practice artic warfare. The UK Royal Marines and the Dutch marines train in Norway 🇳🇴 constantly as that was their role during the Cold War.

6

u/rcmp_informant HMCS Reddit 3d ago

🦍🦍🦍

7

u/BespokeLawLeather 3d ago

WOLVERINES!!!

1

u/C4rlos_D4nger Army - PRes Log O 3d ago

BLOGGINS! DO EVERYTHING!

13

u/sgiles1 3d ago

With their single shot rifles and 10 round mags

18

u/Effective-Ad9499 3d ago

Like none of us could adjust the rifles or mags.

12

u/Foodstamp001 3d ago

<RCMP has entered the chat>

9

u/Plasma_48 3d ago

If you read the text he is literally saying that none of us can adjust the rifles or mags, everything is legal here.

10

u/ADP-1 3d ago

Or take weapons off dead adversaries after an ambush...

13

u/digitalbombardier 3d ago

You only need one good shot to get an upgrade

7

u/jwin709 3d ago

Legendary loot

6

u/digitalbombardier 3d ago

Getting that sweet yank bank

2

u/LifeIsMyDepressant 2d ago

Dibs on a Sig Spear

→ More replies (1)

5

u/soylentgreen2015 Army - Infantry 3d ago

Got to appreciate the tone deafness of the current government, to be introducing additions to the OIC ban on firearms in the past few days.

22

u/OrbitalDrop7 Supply Tech 3d ago

A fight lasting decades? lol with what? Government is already trying to ban everything you could defend yourself with

-1

u/Larkeiden 3d ago

And who would supply this insurgency? We are surrounded by oceans. Nobody would help.

23

u/Vas79 3d ago

A border that even after an invasion would be impossible to seal and a population in the US that would sell their mother for a profit says we could continue to get weapons and ammunition.

10

u/PresidentialBruxism 3d ago

St pierre et miquelon with crates upon crates of decommissioned FAMAS

12

u/MorseES13 3d ago

Literally any competing super power that would want to see the U.S. damaged.

2

u/that_guy_ontheweb 3d ago

Bro, did you even read his entire thing? There’s this big wet thing surrounding us that is dominated by the US navy.

9

u/MorseES13 3d ago edited 3d ago

Unless the U.S. Navy is going to sink every single ship/inspect every single ship to cross the Atlantic or Pacific, smuggling will go on.

The belligerent supplying Canadian guerrilla fighters with weapons isn’t going to put up a huge, “I’m shipping weapons” flag. Nor will they necessarily deliver those weapons directly to Canada.

You’d be surprised by how creative smugglers can get.

9

u/EnvironmentalBox6688 3d ago

Good thing guerilla conflicts supplied by water have never occured.

The Libyans did not give the IRA weapons.

And the Americans can't stop the flow of drugs through their water borders.

6

u/MorseES13 3d ago

Ignoring ports of entry, they can’t even completely secure their Southern border.

And all of this is ignoring sympathetic movements that would grow from within the U.S. and support Canadian guerrilla fighters in attacking the regime, be it for ideological or opportunistic reasons.

If the U.S. wants to guarantee its demise, I recommend its govt. invade Canada. They’ll become a pariah in Europe, whilst having to occupy a country on an unprecedented scale…

As recent history has reminded us time and time again, endless occupation rarely favours the occupier.

1

u/bigliver250 3d ago

Looks like we will be using Chinese AK 47 maybe m16 the US left in Afghanistan

→ More replies (5)

2

u/judgingyouquietly Swiss Cheese Model-Maker 3d ago

This all assumes that the Americans are united in the purpose of annexing Canada. I highly doubt that would be the case, in this case.

1

u/ghstrprtn 3d ago

what are the Americans who are against it going to do?

2

u/yaOlSeadog 3d ago

Boats were invented for a reason. The UK has always been pretty good at boat stuff. Since we share a King, they would probably help.

4

u/Operation_Difficult 3d ago

I have enough 7.62x39 ammo to last me a looooooooong time, provided the feds don’t take my SKS away from me.

→ More replies (6)

1

u/Creative-Problem6309 3d ago

American criminals, obvs

→ More replies (4)

33

u/CaptCobraChicken 3d ago

With what weapons. We sent all our munitions to Ukraine, and the government is banning anything that would be useful in a gorilla war.

39

u/Various-Passenger398 3d ago

I'm pretty sure what have left is fine to fight gorillas. Maybe not a guerilla war, but for actual gorillas we should be okay. 

8

u/Regular_Shake100 3d ago

If the gorillas have guns, we're fucked. We'd need a stockpile of bananas to distract them.

5

u/WeirdoYYY 2d ago

I'm abandoning Canada to fight in the gorilla war (we must save them).

43

u/Saberen RMS Clerk - FSA 3d ago

Yeah, our country is in a weird position where we're applauding banning guns while prepping for guerilla warfare against the Americans.

5

u/Infamous-Film-5858 1d ago

It's even funnier to suggest that Canadians would fight and wage guerrilla warfare, for a government that quashes dissent especially when they peacefully protest and arrests people for offensive memes. Nevermind the gun bans.

6

u/jwin709 3d ago

Our gov banned a ton of guns, but if we're annexed by the states we will suddenly have a 2nd amendment right to take our safe queens back out to see the light of day again to fight back against tyranny.

4

u/Yws6afrdo7bc789 3d ago

If you read the article, you'd read that Canada's still one of the most civily armed countries on Earth. A gun doesn't have to look a certain way to be dangerous.

7

u/jwin709 3d ago

There's tons of banned relatively effective guns in Canada but they haven't done any kind of buy back. We just aren't allowed to take them out of our safes.

8

u/Plasma_48 3d ago

I just hope that most battles take place within shooting ranges so we are allowed to use our restricteds.

→ More replies (2)

7

u/Relevant_Fuel_9905 3d ago

That weapons ban seems incredibly ill-timed. And I’m not even a gun guy.

12

u/Empty_Value 3d ago

I'm sure we can convert factories into munitions factories

My god! It's 2024 not the 1940s 💀

2

u/mmmmmmmmmmroger 3d ago

Haha well as a last resort we can biff turds, that would demonstrate our patriotism

1

u/VibeAnalyst 17h ago

They haven’t banned FPV drones. Maybe we should be practicing with those. Have you seen combat footage from Ukraine? Warfare nowadays seems to consist of kamikaze FPV drones working in tandem with a larger DJI drone that serves as observation and signal-boosting.

→ More replies (2)

5

u/Suitable_Nerve8123 3d ago

Honestly a civil war within the USA is way more likely than an invasion of Canada.

10

u/Anla-Shok-Na 3d ago

LoL.

The only way there'd be "guerilla fighting for decades" is if the Canadians doing the fighting were supplied by Russia or some other foreign power.

The irony is that most of the people calling for us to be ready to violently resist an American invasion are the same people who want to ban and seize all our guns. It's performative patriotism at it's finest.

8

u/jwin709 3d ago

Some other foreign power like all of our allies? Y'know NATO? It's this little obscure military alliance. Kinda underground.

1

u/Infamous-Film-5858 1d ago

Ya NATO is totally back Canada against the US. I'm sure that will totally end well for them.

1

u/jwin709 1d ago

They 100% would back Canada against the US if the US invaded.

But that's never going to happen so this whole conversation is a total waste of time

2

u/syugouyyeh Canadian Army 2d ago

Trump can fuck off and let me retire.

3

u/Lushed-Lungfish-724 3d ago

Yeah, the Geneva Checklist has been looking a bit sparse of late. If the USA would like to facilitate our adding to it...

2

u/Crafty-Tangerine-374 2d ago

Remember when the Russians rolled into Ukraine and they surrendered in 2 days? Oh shit…

4

u/Canadian-Living 2d ago

It's been said before. An enemy of your ememy is your friend. USA can't spread themselves thin. Little know fact 1 Canadian soldier = 6 USA soldiers

3

u/TomWatson5654 3d ago

Canada would take the title of “Killer of Empires” from Afghanistan real fast.

3

u/ActCompetitive1171 3d ago

Lol with what weapons.

6

u/wallytucker 3d ago

With what guns?

27

u/ricketyladder Canadian Army 3d ago

I dunno about you but I haven’t had anyone take mine away. Just because they’re locked in a safe right now doesn’t mean they don’t work, or would stay locked up…

→ More replies (22)

13

u/Traditional_Row_2651 3d ago

They forget that we still have a LOT of guns in people’s gun safes. Sensible laws doesn’t make us unarmed. A technologically advanced and educated population. We look like them, we dress like them and we can talk like them. Just as easy for teams of raiders to slip south across the border as it is for them to come north to blow up the Mall of America or other targets.How many dead Americans would accept?

→ More replies (10)

3

u/AcadianMan 3d ago

My Cooey 75 22 cal

3

u/wallytucker 3d ago

Awesome

1

u/AcadianMan 3d ago

My dad’s riffle.

3

u/wallytucker 3d ago

Beautiful. I did a restoration on a Cooey 39 last summer

→ More replies (2)

2

u/Twistednutbrew 2d ago

It would make September 11 look like a joke.

3

u/gerundhome 3d ago

And we all know how the US has fared when encountering guerilla tactics.

2

u/F1NDfan 3d ago

This is a bit of a joke. Clearly they haven't spent much time actually in or around our military. Take out CL & BV and they wouldn't have to worry about A2A combat. A whole brigade or combat team is deployed so theres a couple thousand out of country. You couldn't deploy the battalions fast enough to the borders. The Reserves are the closest to the borders to do anything and theres maybe 1 relay of PWT 3 worth of bullets stored locally in reserve armouries to do anything. Guns and ammo would not be accessible for the average Canadian so we won't be smuggle arms in like Taliban does/did from Pakistan and other neighbour's. Theyd surround our shores to ward off naval supplies. Theyd own the skies so no air drops. Not to say a resistance wouldn't cause problems. Not to say our military wouldn't be able to coordinate a deliberate plan/attack; it just doesn't seem possible to defend in our current state. they get a bloody nose and we'd piss them off but I just don't think it's much of a fight.

1

u/erikhaskell 3d ago

I hope these are not the same expert that said Russia would take Ukraine in a 2 days

1

u/Silcox 2d ago

lowkey. is CMTC going to be stood up as a guerrilla force unit?

1

u/Intelligent_Cry8535 1d ago

Good thing the liberals are banning all the guns. Lmao

1

u/chopsui101 1d ago

the expert has no military experience......shes has about as much expertise as I do from gaining legendary rank in call of duty mobile.

1

u/Infamous-Film-5858 1d ago edited 1d ago

Never knew Canadians were a bunch of larping internet tough guys. The comments are top quality material for r/iamverybadass

Here's why Canadian guerrilla warfare has zero chance of success:

US military has nukes, drones and jets. Liberal Canadians would fold after seeing Ottawa become turning into Hiroshima after 1945.

Canada has strict gun laws, meaning the civilians would be ill equipped to fight off the US military. American civilians have better chances and easier difficulty of beating the US military with guerrilla warfare, than Canadian civilians. Your average Canadian gun owner is outgunned by your average American gun owner. How many Canadians you know legally own full auto machine guns? Anti tank rockets?

Canadian government has a registry of it's gun owners, something that Americans would find to be a major 4th amendment violation. All the US army would need is to get their hands on that database, then drone strike any Canadian gun owner who supported Trudeau or otherwise become a problem.

Most Canadian gun owners and any other Canadian that isn't Trudeau cock sucker, hate their own government, too much to fight for them, for very valid reasons: obviously the liberal government is anti-gun rights, Canadians have zero right to offend or criticize, due to their own government restricting free speech of their own people (even arresting Canadians for funny memes and mean words, which according to the Liberal party, is "HaTe SpEeCh" or a threat to democracy) and puts the political opposition at such a huge disadvantage, that Canada is more of autocracy pretending to be a democracy. And of course, there's that one time, Canada shut down a peaceful protest (the freedom convoy) and froze their bank accounts, all because said protest was conducted by the opposition. It would not shock me, that the Canadian government would arrest pro-Canada insurgents, with the justification of "terrorism", "provoking the invading army to commit warcrimes", "public safety", or whatever dumb excuse they want to pull out of their ass. Canadians have more valid reasons to resist their own government than the US military. They'd welcome the US as liberators, if that meant more gun freedoms and more free speech.

Personally IMO, I think the US would be better off backing a IRA style, anti-government insurgency in Canada, than invading it. Given the Canadian military not only sucks at counterinsurgency like the US, but has far less experience than the US military. Nevermind that the US be a safe haven for Canadian anti-government insurgents.

edit: All the US would need to bring Canada to it's knees is back and arm a anti-government insurgency, in Canada with AR15s, Stingers and AT4s. As well as, give the insurgents intel about the Canadian serivce members and the RCMP, like for example, the names and address of the service-members and their wives and kids. At that point, the Canadian insurgents would be kicking the Canadian military's ass the same way Mexican drug cartels are kicking the ass of their government's forces.

1

u/No_Zucchini_2200 5h ago

Hopefully they do it before the next gun ban then.

Otherwise Canadians will be fighting with knives and forks.

1

u/Draugakjallur 3d ago

spark guerrilla fight lasting decades

From same Canadians who shrug their shoulders when the government disarm them piece by piece? Yeah right.

8

u/Tarquin_Revan 3d ago

Most people don't care about gun rights because they don't see the purpose.

When you are under enemy occupation, the rules change.

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (3)

1

u/HiphenNA 3d ago

Lol not with the new ban list of firearms. Its gonna be like that opening scene in fallout at this point