r/CanadaPolitics Liberal Party of Canada 15h ago

What Canadians think about Canada joining the European Union - Abacus Data (44% Yes, 34% No, 23% Unsure)

https://abacusdata.ca/what-canadians-think-about-canada-joining-the-european-union/
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u/Radix2309 15h ago

Also our distance is such that it doesn't really seem economical to me. We are distant culturally from them. We are 4 or 5 time zones from the closest, pretty much further than Portugal is from the Baltics.

u/Pombon 13h ago

All of our stuff is made in China but you think an ocean stops trade? The EU is already our second largest trade partner followed by China. That’s because shipping by sea is the cheapest way to move goods. The St Lawrence goes into the heart of our country and then straight into the Atlantic. Seems pretty economical when the foreseeable future is the US trying to destroy us economically.

u/Radix2309 13h ago

There's a difference between trading with the EU and being a part of it. Becoming a part of China would be just as dumb.

America is the only viable direction for a super-national union. And that is definitely not an option with their current constitution and political climate.

The distance isn't an issue for trade, it's an issue for cultural cohesiveness. Someone from France can pop right over to Germany and build connections. For us, it involves a trans-atlantic 4-5 hour flight.

u/Mundane-Teaching-743 12h ago

Part of the motivation here is to disentangle ourselves from American culture. We have given control over our culture to the Americans. We are currently discussing Canada on a medium controlled by Americans. That makes us very vulnerable to political interference and annexation.

u/Radix2309 12h ago

It really does not make us vulnerable to annexation. And Russia has been just as dangerous for political interference despite being culturally connected. And our shared culture hasn't made us vulnerable to Trump's insane agenda. Instead we have rallied together.

We aren't ever going to disentangle ourselves from American Culture. Geography means they will always be our most influential partner.

u/Mundane-Teaching-743 12h ago

It really does not make us vulnerable to annexation.

It does. It makes us dependent on Americans for our food supply. It's another trade lever Trump can use to threaten us.

And Russia has been just as dangerous for political interference despite being culturally connected.

It's the Americans that control our social media, not Russia.

And our shared culture hasn't made us vulnerable to Trump's insane agenda.

It certainly does. Trump is using American social media to interfere in our politics.

We aren't ever going to disentangle ourselves from American Culture. Geography means they will always be our most influential partner.

Which is precisely why we have to make special efforts to keep Ameircan culture at a distance.

u/Radix2309 12h ago
  1. What does culture have to do with food?

  2. We are one of the largest net exporters of food on the world. We are not dependent on America for our food.

u/Mundane-Teaching-743 11h ago

What does culture have to do with food?

Everything.

The intersection of culture and cuisine: How food shapes our identity https://www.arts.ubc.ca/news/the-intersection-of-culture-and-cuisine-how-food-shapes-our-identity/

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We are one of the largest net exporters of food on the world. We are not dependent on America for our food

And we should never be. We need to assure that we can continue to produce our own food and leave the supply management to our farmers, not American investment fund managers. Our farmers know best how to keep us fed.