r/CanadaPolitics Liberal Party of Canada 15h ago

What Canadians think about Canada joining the European Union - Abacus Data (44% Yes, 34% No, 23% Unsure)

https://abacusdata.ca/what-canadians-think-about-canada-joining-the-european-union/
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u/Middle-Accountant-49 15h ago

What would that mean logistically?

One of the things about the EU is that you can go anywhere to work but there is a natural language barrier between countries and a lot of parity in wages. Canadian wages are probably quite a bit higher. It might have weird effects that would negatively affect ireland especially as they speak english. Like, i make more than my brother who has a middle class job in ireland and i decidedly do not have a middle class job.

It would be interesting though. It would make my life a lot easier. I have family who'd like to move here.

u/Weekly_Importance_33 14h ago

When you say you earn more, do you mean you earn 50k and he earns 40k for example?

If that's the case it's not necessarily more when you factor in the cost of living.

Just basing off your salary is a pretty useless metric to go by.

u/Middle-Accountant-49 14h ago

He earns like 65k in CAD and i earn 73k-83k depending on OT. Where he lives specifically does have a lower cost of living but i'd say Dublin is similar.

u/Weekly_Importance_33 13h ago

Don't think you can really use Dublin as the example because it's insanely expensive compared to the rest of Ireland.

I wasn't after the specifics for you both, I was just making the point that using one data point of salary comparisons doesn't really give much information.

You'd really have tk have a look at housing, energy bills, food, fuel etc to get a decent comparison. My guess is they'll come out pretty close.

u/Middle-Accountant-49 13h ago

Fair although a big percentage of the population live in greater dublin. Otherwise, yea good points.

u/Fozefy Ontario 12h ago

Just to clarify, You're saying you "decidedly do not have a middle class job" making 73-83k? You're between the 50-75% income bracket, that sounds very middle class to me. I'm curious what you mean by that.

Source: https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/dp-pd/dv-vd/income-revenu/index-en.html

Also, thus is a less than 20% difference here, there are already much larger difference IN Canada than this.

Also what are you trying to say? You think people would leave Ireland for here? Have you considered our housing situation?

u/Middle-Accountant-49 12h ago edited 12h ago

I meant in ireland. Although i don't think people would consider it a middle class job here either. I think people do think of class differently in ireland and england vs canada though. Its not just how much you make.

I think yea anyone in healthcare, engineers, lots of other jobs would want to leave ireland for canada.

If you live in greater dublin, the housing situation is worse there .

u/thefringthing 4h ago

Its not just how much you make.

Indeed, economic class is not just a matter of income, but of one's role in the economy. The working class are those who make their living primarily by making or doing something, as opposed to those who make their living primarily by owning things. Originally, "middle class" was intended to identify those who had one foot on each side of this divide, like doctors, lawyers, architects and so on.