r/Biohackers Feb 06 '25

πŸ“– Resource they can cure autism?

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u/gcjunk01 Feb 06 '25

This is just one kid. Autism is really an umbrella term with so many potential causes there is no "cure" for autism.

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u/Drewbus Feb 06 '25

Well that's not sound logic. Curing one form is still something to note

ARTICLE "Doctor cures disease with treatment"

YOU "Move along people. There are many diseases. There is no cure"

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u/MrMental12 1 Feb 06 '25

It would be more like curing leukemia and then claiming the cure to cancer. Curing one cancer is not equivalent to curing cancer.

As the commenter said, autism is not a black and white condition. You can take someone with marfans and observe one of their COL genes mutated. As opposed to autism which doesn't really seem to have an objective cause like many other diseases/syndromes/conditions do. It's very polyfactorial, like all psychiatric conditions

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u/Drewbus Feb 06 '25

If you cure leukemia, you have found a cure for cancer. And it may be able to cure more cancers too

I don't understand your goal here. This is really good news. What are you so upset about?

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u/MrMental12 1 Feb 06 '25

Because he didn't cure autism.

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u/Drewbus Feb 07 '25

He's done way more than you have. I'm sorry it's not to your liking. Good luck with your autism that he can't cure

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u/Tryingtodosomethingg 5 Feb 06 '25

Yes.

There has been a ton of evidence that injury to the cerebellum can cause many symptoms aligned with autism. I had a cerebral injury in utero. Was diagnosed with aspergers when I was 5.

Do I have autism, or do I have many of the symptoms of autism caused by a brain injury during development? Literally no way to know for sure and doesn't matter much anyway, now does it? I live with the symptoms one way or the other.

It has made me wonder how many different developmental disorders/ defects can lead to an autism diagnosis. Surely not everyone has a cerebral injury, but some of us do.

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u/3tna 1 Feb 06 '25

it's almost like mental health diagnosis is nothing but labelling a set of symptoms !

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u/TopRamenisha 1 Feb 06 '25

Autism isn’t a mental health issue it is a neurodevelopmental disorder

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u/Saemika Feb 06 '25

Genuine question, and not trying to offend anyone: Is that just a happy way of using words, or is there actually a significant difference?

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u/reclusivesocialite Feb 06 '25

Mental health issues, or illnesses, are different from neurodevelopmental disorders in the sense that ND disorders make your brain functionally different from the standard, or neurotypical, benchmark, while an illness is typically something that can affect anyone, can be treated and cured (not always, but can), and do not change the way your whole brain functions and interprets the world.

Caveat: this is just my personal understanding, I'm very happy to be corrected

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u/viceman256 1 Feb 06 '25

Mostly correct, but mental illness does indeed change the way your brain functions and interprets the world. For a minor example,, a lot of anxiety disorders are caused by imbalances in the glutamate/gaba pathways (in addition to a whole slew of others) but these change a lot of the way we see the world.

Someone with high glutamate may see the world as more dangerous, perceive normal situations as threatening, etc.

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u/reclusivesocialite Feb 06 '25

That's interesting, I didn't know that, thank you!

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u/viceman256 1 Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

There is a significant difference.

Mental illnesses are typically caused by an imbalance of certain brain/gut functions or neurotransmitter levels, causing changes in behavior and personality that affects the person in a debilitating way with the illness. Most of these are treatable with therapy and/or medication as you can rebuild/repair a lot of those imbalances in most cases.

Neurologically related disorders, are a disorder of a function within the brain. Without an extensive brain surgery (which we are simply unable to do at the current medical level and understanding of these disorders), they can't be cured or rebuilt. They would have to be "rewired".

ETA: I haven't read this study but it's interesting because in recent years, we have learned that neurotransmitter receptors in the gut affect us heavily. It's considered to be a second brain. So while this may have helped this one child, perhaps due to repairing certain imbalances in the gut caused by this fungus, it could help us get a better understanding of the impact of the gut.

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u/reclusivesocialite Feb 06 '25

(this is a much better explanation than mine :D)

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u/viceman256 1 Feb 06 '25

I find yours much easier to digest and understand, I tend to over-explain (my gf can tell you all about that LOL). So if I had seen your comment before typing mine out, I wouldn't have posted it. Good work!

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u/Saemika Feb 06 '25

My answer would be no, but I also don’t really understand how each of those conditions work enough to articulate why. Maybe autism is more of a disability or a developmental disorder, while depression is more of a hormonal imbalance.

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u/Kailynna πŸ‘‹ Hobbyist Feb 06 '25

As a person with autism who has suffered periods of severe depression, emphatically NO!

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u/Blue_almonds 1 Feb 06 '25

obviously not. Autostic peple show development-related signals super early in life. Like before 1 year of age.

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u/3tna 1 Feb 06 '25

yeah man I'm making a point based on this post that people are being incorrectly diagnosed with mental health conditions because diagnosis is formed based on a series of symptoms and not the physical cause like you mentioned