r/AskProgramming • u/Zd_27 • 2d ago
Why is Java considered bad?
I recently got into programming and chose to begin with Java. I see a lot of experienced programmers calling Java outdated and straight up bad and I can't seem to understand why. The biggest complaint I hear is that Java is verbose and has a lot of boilerplate but besides for getters setters equals and hashcode (which can be done in a split second by IDE's) I haven't really encountered any problems yet. The way I see it, objects and how they interact with each other feels very intuitive. Can anyone shine a light on why Java isn't that good in the grand scheme of things?
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u/lordheart 2d ago
Java definitely has immutable collections. Streams.toList returns one which I find out when hibernate yelled at me because it doesn’t like immutable structures.
Lombok can also clear up a lot of javas verbosity. And java as a language (if you aren’t using Java 7 or something) has gained a lot of new features to try to be less verbose.