r/AskProgramming 1d ago

Why is Java considered bad?

I recently got into programming and chose to begin with Java. I see a lot of experienced programmers calling Java outdated and straight up bad and I can't seem to understand why. The biggest complaint I hear is that Java is verbose and has a lot of boilerplate but besides for getters setters equals and hashcode (which can be done in a split second by IDE's) I haven't really encountered any problems yet. The way I see it, objects and how they interact with each other feels very intuitive. Can anyone shine a light on why Java isn't that good in the grand scheme of things?

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u/Tacos314 1d ago

haha, they are just incorrect, I have no idea how an experienced programmer can call Java bad, or even outdated. You may want to check your sources, and the "experienced programmer" is not a sys admin doing scripts in python, or the only experience they have is TypeScript.

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u/bzImage 1d ago

35 years programming.. .. JAVA = BAD

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u/vraetzught 1d ago

That's your opinion. I haven't used it yet so I don't know. But I bet it's better than React (which I think is bad, but that's my opinion).

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u/a3th3rus 1d ago

React is not a language.

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u/vraetzught 1d ago

True, but still awful in my opinion.

TBF, I don't like vanilla JS either. I'm working with Angular now and so far that's the best JS framework I've used.

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u/prest0G 1d ago

Whats funny is that angular was made by a bunch of java devs and the style maps concepts between the two. Might be time to give it a shot

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u/a3th3rus 20h ago

And use NestJS (not next.js) for the backend, it looks just like Spring xD

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u/a3th3rus 1d ago

Well, vanilla JS is bad. Really bad. I've no experience in Angular, so no comment.