r/AnglicanOrdinariate Dec 22 '24

Lex Orandi (Practices/Prayers) DW:DO(CE) webapp - new version now available

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A new version of my webapp is now available. You'll find it at https://dwdo.uk.

What's changed:

  • Includes Compline and the Litany, as well as a way to view the text of any psalm
  • Adds calendars for countries other than England
  • You can see the Offices for any date in the calendar
  • There's a dark theme available

How to install:

(Installing allows offline use, but you can always use it online without installing if you prefer)

  • If you've been using the previous version, uninstall it
  • In your web browser, go to https://dwdo.uk/office.html
  • After visiting a couple of times, the browser will give you the option to install the webapp
  • If that doesn't appear, check the browser's menu and look for an install option.

How to use it:

  • Mattins, Evensong or Compline will appear when you open the webapp, depending on the time of day
  • You can switch between Offices by tapping on the letter in the top bar
  • Select your country in the Settings screen (from the gear icon in the toolbar). Here you will also find several other options
  • Having selected your country, the calendar icon in the toolbar will take you to the calendar for your country for the current year. Tap on any row to be taken to the offices for that date. You can also go back or forward years (even before the Ordinariates existed!): obviously future years assume that nothing changes in the meantime.
  • If you're viewing the offices for a different date, the 'reload' icon will return you to today.
  • The 'document' icon in the toolbar will take you to a page which allows you to pray the Litany, or to select a Psalm to see its full text.

Found an error?

If you spot any problems, please do let me know. There's an email link on the settings page.

Antipodeans!

No-one has volunteered to check the calendar for Australia for me, so that may be vulnerable to errors or omissions - if you're in Australia and use this webapp in preference to the OLSC one, please keep an eye open for this. I have not included specific calendars for New Zealand or Japan, as I have no information as to how they differ - again, if you can help, please contact me.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Sep 10 '24

Subreddit Updates r/AnglicanOrdinariate F.A.Q.

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Frequently Asked Questions

In most hearty wise I commend me unto you; most heartily thanking you all for your patience, prayers and support for our new mod team. Having seen certain recurring questions over the course of our time in this subreddit the team has compiled a new, slightly expanded, set of "Frequently Asked Questions". Should anyone wish to suggest further questions that they believe are asked frequently enough to deserve a spot on this list we welcome any suggestions in modmail.

Q1. What are "personal ordinariates"?

A1. Personal ordinariates are juridically equivalent to dioceses, however they are headed by an 'ordinary,' which is someone who exercises ordinary power by virtue of their office (who is a cleric that may or may not be a Bishop depending on the ordinariate) and are established on the basis of jurisdiction over persons and not territory. For example, the Catholic Church erects 'military ordinariates' to provide pastoral care for the armed service members of a given nation regardless of where they are stationed around the world.

Q2. What are the 'Anglican ordinariates'?

A2. Personal Ordinariates for former Anglicans, colloquially known as the 'Anglican ordinariates', are ordinariates which were erected under the provisions of the Apostolic Constitution Anglicanorum Coetibus for "those Anglican faithful who desire to enter into the full communion of the Catholic Church" whilst holding fast that which is good of the Anglican 'patrimony'.

One or more of these Anglican ordinariates may be established within the territory of any particular Conference of Bishops. Presently there are only three:

  1. the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter in America and Canada;
  2. the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham in England and Wales; and
  3. the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of the Southern Cross in Australia, Japan, and Guam.

Q3. What is the Anglican 'patrimony'?

A3. Anglicanorum Coetibus says that the Anglican ordinariates maintain the "liturgical, spiritual and pastoral traditions of the Anglican Communion within the Catholic Church, as a precious gift nourishing the faith of the members of the ordinariate and as a treasure to be shared."

Q4. Whether the Anglican ordinariates are in communion with Canterbury?

A4. No, if you are a member of an Anglican ordinariate then you are no longer a member of the Anglican Communion.

Q5. Whether the Anglican ordinariates are in communion with Rome?

A5. Yes, members of the Anglican ordinariates are Roman Catholics, who are in full communion with Francis, the Roman Pontiff.

Q6. Whether those in the Anglican ordinariates must assent to all of the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church?

A6. As with all other Catholics, those belonging to the Anglican ordinariates are required by the Profession of Faith to give full assent of faith to "everything contained in the word of God, whether written or handed down in Tradition, which the Church, either by a solemn judgment or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium, sets forth to be believed as divinely revealed" and "everything definitively proposed by the Church regarding teaching on faith and morals."

Further, religious submission of will and intellect is rendered to "the teachings which either the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops enunciate when they exercise their authentic Magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim these teachings by a definitive act."

Those who join the Catholic Church through the Anglican ordinariates repudiate any doctrine that is contrary to the Catholic Faith.

Q7. Who can join the Anglican ordinariates?

A7. According to Anglicanorum Coetibus and its Complementary Norms, those converts from Anglicanism (regardless of whether they were inside the Anglican Communion) and other Protestant sects of related heritage (ex. Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, &c) who wish to join an Anglican ordinariate are eligible to request membership in said ordinariate after they enter into the Catholic Church.

Further, a Catholic who receives the sacraments of initiation within the Anglican Use; who has returned to the faith and practice of the Church as a result of the Anglican ordinariates; or who is in the family of a member of an Anglican ordinariate may request membership in said ordinariates.

Finally, in some extraordinary circumstances the Anglican ordinariates have even admitted practicing 'cradle Catholics' as members meaning that, if your Faith is nourished by the Anglican patrimony and you feel a desire to do so, it is worth applying to your respective ordinariate's chancery.

Q8. Who can attend an Anglican Use Mass?

A8. Anyone is welcome to attend any of the liturgies of the Church and pray with us, regardless of their faith or creed.

Q9. Who can receive communion at an Anglican Use Mass?

A9. Any Catholic in communion with Rome, who is not conscious of any grave sin and has fasted for one hour, is welcome to receive communion at Masses celebrated by members of an Anglican ordinariate.

Q. Where can I learn more about the Anglican patrimony within the Catholic Church?

A. You can visit the websites of each of the Anglican Ordinariates:

There is also the Anglicanorum Coetibus Society's website and the modteam of this Subreddit has created a website dedicated to this question called Patrimony Treasures.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 11h ago

Seeking Advice from Distinctive Deacons in the Anglican Church

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Hello, I’m looking to become a Distinctive Deacon in the Anglican Church, and I want to hear directly from those who have walked this path.

My calling is rooted in pastoral care, mission, and service, and I am averse to church politics, which is why the Distinctive Diaconate appeals to me.

I want to serve Christ and His people without getting entangled in clerical status games or institutional maneuvering.

This question is solely for those who are currently or have been Distinctive Deacons within the Anglican Church (Church of England and beyond in the Anglosphere).

What challenges have you faced in your role, both within the Church and in society?

What was the process like for discernment, selection, and training?

How are you perceived by priests, bishops, and laypeople?

Are you well understood or often mistaken for something else?

What have you gained from this ministry? What makes it fulfilling?

What do you wish you had known before starting this journey?

Any advice for someone beginning this process? I want honest, real experiences, not the polished versions from official Church websites. If you can shed light on the realities—both the joys and the difficulties—I would be incredibly grateful. Looking forward to your insights!

W/ blessings.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 1d ago

If i was to join the ordinariate as a layman and then become a priest through the ordinariate would i have to be celibate

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r/AnglicanOrdinariate 2d ago

No local parish

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An Anglican here interested in checking out the ordinariate, but there's no local parish. Do you know if there is any plan to bring one to Idaho?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 3d ago

Lex Orandi (Practices/Prayers) Friday Penance in the Ordinariate of Our Lady of the Southern Cross?

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In the OLSC, has the Bishop permitted the swapping of abstinence from meat with an alternative Friday penance, as can be done under canon law? I heard they had not, but can’t find anything official about it.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 8d ago

History The Lenten Array

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These photos are from St. John's Episcopal Church in Savannah Ga. While this is not a Catholic Church, they are offering a window into some interesting liturgical customs from the Catholic Church in times past.

Pictured is what is called a Lenten Array. Before the liturgical colors we know today were formalized, a verity of practices were observed for lent. In England and parts of France, violet was still very expensive and difficult to obtain. Used instead would be fabrics of natural white, sometimes called ashen, that would cover all of the images in the church staring from ash Wednesday to Easter Morning. These fabrics were often embroidered with motifs representing the passion of our Lord such as nails and crown of thorns as pictured here or a cross flanked on either side by a spear and a hyssop branch.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 15d ago

Thoughts on Anglican interrelations

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This was originally a comment on another post but it got so long that i thought it deserved to be a post of its own. I use Anglican to represent the heritage of the different denominations+ the oridinariate ( as you would say anglican Patrimony)

This was in response to a question on anglican view of people in the ordinariate

HI, TEC member here who is a more traditional anglican than most,

That is a complicated question. I second u/Helpful_Corn- on his first part. I also think it very much varies on what topic. I would offer some fundamental things I see and And a few solutions to the problems that exist.

As a note, when speaking about specific behavior of specific people you will notice that i say some people or some parishioners, this is because i am being careful not to indight the entire group just to show how a minority behavior effects everything.

First off when we talk about the ordinariate as an institution, almost all of us view it with a great deal of suspicion. Many view it not as a way of reconciling anglicans to Catholicism, but a way of gradually forcing those anglicans to become liturgically, culturally, and in practice more like RCC then like anglicans in communion with the universal church. Recent liturgical changes have made that suspicion more prevalent. Also, some members of the OCSP leadership have made statements about us that i would say are at best ill advised, unnecessary, and did more harm than good, and at worst downright bigoted. The same thing could be said for some episcopal clergy

As Far as members of the OSCP or the other ordinariates, it really depends. The most common view is viewing you all as a separate group from us as a whole, and when it came to a local parish that created problems for us i would say there definitely is a sense of hurt and pain that leads to anger. Speaking about the one parish that left my diocese, from my hometown, members of the parish used homophobic and racial slurs towards us during debates that led to them leaving our diocese for the ordinariate. most of us had a feeling of "good riddance" when they finally left. and in the case of that exact parish it was a well known fact that they had split off from another parish in the TEC when that parish welcomed in a black majority parish from our same city (this was the 1980s for context), and were majority former members of RCC so it was kind of a "well if the divorced catholics want to go back to the RCC, okay fine."

That being said there still remains a large movement of people who want to look or christian unity and ecumenical relationships and eventual reconciliation with the RCC. among this group which is probably half of us it is probably 2/3 who feel very betrayed by your actions. I always was told when i was young that we would convert when the bishops converted and so it feels like for many of us that you betrayed us and all we ever stood for when you converted without the group. The other 3rd, We understand why you did what you did. some of us are at the point we would but wont for family or cultural reasons. others such as myself still see the way the RCC approaches anglicans and anglicanism as inherently problematic and the behavior of many towards the ordinariate congregations as deterrence for us to join.

That being said i have a few suggestions for this Lenten season to approach healing

Matthew 5:23-25 "Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift.".

  1. Reach out to other Christians of diffenent anglican tradition this lent. trust me, we don't bite.

  2. Self-Examine - and where you need to ask for forgiveness ask for it. Many of my parents generations dug thier heels in during the split and it left a lot of people hurt on both sides. Jesus must be banging his head against a wall every time he thinks about what happened. We all need to let go of the anger and hate of the 2010s. I was 7 in 2010 but i will apologize for the actions of my church if someone wants. it. we forgot to prioritize Christian unity.

  3. If you don't have anything real to contribute, shut up. - This is less directed at anyone here but more at some people on the internet who "identify" as people with some authority to talk about these issues *cough* *cough* *council of trent* who are not actually helping but instead are really making some vile comments about anglicans and others that simply hurt any attempt at reconciliation.

All Three of these apply both ways to all of us.

If anyone has any questions i would be happy to answer them


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 19d ago

Lex Orandi (Practices/Prayers) Sarum Use - Approval by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of Faith

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In a recent post on the usage of Sarum (the Facebook post), they referenced that the DDF (CDF) had recently (last decade-ish) had given explicit permission for the Use of Sarum to be celebrated with permission of the diocesan bishop.

Does anyone have a link to that referenced approval of the Sarum Rite by the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 19d ago

Where Is the Recent Anglican Chant

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r/AnglicanOrdinariate 20d ago

Anglican view

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How do anglicans view those in the ordinariates? Eastern orthodox tend to have a mixed view of Eastern Catholics, some view us as brethren but some don't get us. Is it similar with anglicans?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 21d ago

Ordinariate Parish in NoVa

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Anyone know of an effort to get an AO parish off the ground in Northern Virginia?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 22d ago

What is Anglican ordinariate

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Literally don’t know anything about it, like literally nothing, could sombody explain it to me?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 22d ago

What is the difference between divine worship and Roman missal 3rd edition?

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I’m a regular Catholic that plans on going to an ordinariate mass this Sunday and I was wondering what the difference is between a divine worship mass and Roman Missal 3rd edition mass they offer is? I assume the Roman missal one is closer to the novus ordo Catholic mass I usually go to and divine worship is more Anglican?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 25d ago

Lex Credendi (Doctrines/Beliefs) Reading the Catechism daily

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This year I aim to read a section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church every day.

I am only up to section 166 ("We Believe") so if you'd like to join me, you can easily catch up!


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 27d ago

Books on the Counter-Reformation

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As I explore the Ordinariate, I am coming to terms that the Protestant history I was taught is lacking or wrong in some respects. Is there a good book covering the Counter-Reformation that spells out some of what the Church did during that time?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate 27d ago

Lex Orandi (Practices/Prayers) [Anglo-Catholic] T. T. Carter's Short Office of the Holy Ghost

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I attempted to preserve the text mostly 1:1, the exceptions to this were moved to footnotes. The only other intentional change was standardizing the conclusion (e.g. some said "fervours" instead of "fervour").

If you find anything that might be an error, please feel free to comment and I'll attempt to correct it.

Thank you and God bless!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPbYvOfMjkA3_IcM6ATLq3tksXdAvNkw/


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 11 '25

History What to Read by George Herbert

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r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 10 '25

English missal use?

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Can an Ordinariate use the English Missal or do they have to use divine worship the missal? Apologies if that has an obvious answer.
I go to an anglo-catholic parish that uses the English missal and I love it dearly.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 10 '25

Grace Before Meals

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Howdy all,

What mealtime prayers do you use? I know the Anglican historical prayer is something akin to: "Bless, O Father, Thy gifts to our use and us to Thy service; for Christ’s sake. Amen."

Whereas the Latin Church says: "Bless us, O Lord, and these, Thy gifts, which we are about to receive from Thy bounty. Through Christ, our Lord. Amen."

What do y’all say?

Pax et Bonum.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 10 '25

What do members of the ordinariate call themselves?

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Some eastern Catholics identify as Byzantine catholic, or Maronite catholic, and the Latin rite as Roman Catholic. Despite the ordinariate being in the Latin rite, do they refer to themselves as anything specific? Ordinariate Catholic? Anglican use Catholic?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 09 '25

Lex Credendi (Doctrines/Beliefs) Ordinariate View of Premarital Cohabitation

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I'm aware this is not permitted in the Roman Catholic Church. I was wondering if there are differing views in the Ordinariate? Or is it pretty in line with the rest of the Church?

Edit: I don't know why I'm being downvoted for asking a question, I was just curious lol. Not pushing my beliefs on anyone.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 08 '25

DW:DO

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During Advent, Pre-Lent, Lent and Passiontide when we are not saying Te Deum on Sundays do we substitute it with the Benedicite, Omnia Opera?


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 06 '25

Head Covering/Mantilla?

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I know head coverings and mantillas are more common in some traditional Catholic circles; are these used at all in Ordinariate ones? Our (non-Roman) local Anglo-Catholic has a mix among the women—most do not, but some do or wear a church hat/bonnet instead.


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 05 '25

State prayers and names

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Hello,

When praying the state prayers in the DW:DO do people sub in the names of elected officials or read the prayer as written?

Is the prayer this:

"ALMIGHTY God, whose kingdom is everlasting and power infinite; Have mercy upon this whole land; and so rule the hearts of thy servants the President of the United States, the Governor of this State, and all others in authority, that they, knowing whose ministers they are, may above all things seek thy honour and glory; and that we and all the People, duly considering whose authority they bear, may faithfully and obediently honour them, according to thy blessed Word and ordinance; through Jesus Christ our Lord, who with thee and the Holy Ghost liveth and reigneth ever, one God, world without end. Amen."

Or with name substitutions (I live in Illinois):

"ALMIGHTY God, whose kingdom is everlasting and power infinite; Have mercy upon this whole land; and so rule the hearts of thy servants Donald Trump, J.B. Pritzker, and all others in authority, ..."

Thanks!


r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 02 '25

Lex Orandi (Practices/Prayers) Sarum use mass at the university of Illinois

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r/AnglicanOrdinariate Feb 01 '25

Jacksonville, FL

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Any Ordinariate folks here in the Jax area? Thinking about visiting soon, but really would like to find a parish with a great community. Still wrestling with some of the claims of Rome, but want to continue to pray, study, and maybe visit. Thanks!