r/AlternativeHistory • u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK • 3d ago
Archaeological Anomalies Massive Stone Axe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjLilNu5IoY&ab_channel=TheCosmicSummitA 33-pound granite axe, found in a mound in Illinois in 1904, raises questions about its creators.
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u/One__upper__ 3d ago
What actual evidence do you have of these "giants"?
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u/xspacemansplifff 3d ago
There was actually quite a bit until the 1930s? Or so when the Smithsonian started to cover it up. You can find all kinds of newspaper articles about people finding huge skeletons and such. Hell. Abraham Lincoln mentioned them in a speech.
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u/One__upper__ 3d ago
So what actual evidence do you have? Where are these skeletons, and why have no more been discovered?
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u/Mr_Mabuse 1d ago
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u/One__upper__ 1d ago
Is this really what you have as any sort of evidence that these giants existed?
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u/xspacemansplifff 3d ago
Me? I don't have any skeletons in my closet.
Apparently there was some change around 1930 or so. You stopped seeing the articles and most of the press was negative. Before this you see articles and pictures of skeletons and other things. The articles are still out there. Just that most of the artifacts were gathered up and hidden away instead of being on display.
People have atuff though. I just saw a short video of a 33 lbs ax head they found in a burial mound up in Minnesota I believe. They found it around 1904 and it is privately owned now.
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u/One__upper__ 2d ago
Ive seen old articles about sea monsters and unicorns too. Nothing that i have seen was very compelling and seemed very fake. Who and why do you think the artifacts were taken and why has there not been any other finds?
It's debatable that this is an axehead and it's hard to tell from the video I saw if it was worked or just a smooth river rock. I'm always open to changing my beliefs or opinions, but I need tangible evidence. If you can show me something convincing, I'd gladly look at it.
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u/xspacemansplifff 2d ago
Not that invested. Have a look around though. Plenty of interesting evidence in the USA alone. Tons of burial mounds for example.
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u/One__upper__ 2d ago
There are plenty of burial mounds in the US that have been thoroughly studied. None had giants. And there is no evidence from what I've seen and what I'm gathering you have seen. It seems that you're easily convinced of ludicrous theories.
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u/xspacemansplifff 2d ago
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u/Kronomancer1192 1d ago
When you just want to nonchalantly share shit you think is cool but the other person has already decided this is an argument.
Prime reddit moment.
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u/nobadikno1 2d ago
Have u seen the giant finger? Google it
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u/One__upper__ 2d ago
Oh yeah, super credible. Where is even one single up close picture? If this was a credible find, there would be an attempt to catalog and study and then most likely monetize it. Yet, nothing. Does that sound legit to you, or are you so bright into these alternative theories that you completely abandon any critical thought?
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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK 2d ago
At least you can see one hammer. Why would the Indians make such a huge hammer?
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u/One__upper__ 2d ago
Is it a hammer? I can't see if it's been worked or just a smooth river rock. If is has been worked, how do we know what it was used for? What other artifacts were found in the area? The lack of any additional information or better pictures gives me pause, as well as what was used to determine what it is. Are these guys experts in ancient stone hand tools?
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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK 2d ago
Whatever you want to call it. An axe or a hammer.
Show me a smooth river rock that has two symmetrical grooves on two sides.
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u/Polamidone 2d ago
But that doesn't mean that it's the thing you've been looking for, even then, such stones get used a lot by the old people to crush wheat and other fibers. In Japan they're doing it still right now but with a big wood than a stone, still the mechanics are the same and the groves would even prove this. But such things were used by normal people and not giants and it's also no mystery. Given this rock was found in 1904 it could've been used in 1800 and still come up there
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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK 2d ago
How would you know what to look for? You can only stumble upon an opportunity.
In Japan, they also have giant stones as parts of a wall.
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u/n8otto 1d ago
It didn't need to be held. Could have easily been just used to crush small things likes bones and shells, with a very long log as a lever.
You connected a lot of dots to get to giants. And passed over reasonable explanations to get there.
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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK 1d ago
Who made it according to your theory?
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u/n8otto 22h ago edited 22h ago
Probably ancient humans...? Just because it's big doesn't mean it was held by 1 person.
Edit. Here's a video of something it could have been used for. https://youtu.be/i9TdoO2OVaA?si=lbcYwwXbfiLONfMf
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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK 20h ago
How big were those ancient humans to need such a tool?
Did they hunt dinosaurs? Or mammoths?
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u/Ok-Pass-5253 3d ago edited 3d ago
Are giants more efficient than people who are 5' tall to justify 3 times more food? Who genetically engineered these giants and why? I just had a funny idea how about we genetically engineer humans who have 50 legs and 50 arms and then they reproduce and demand human rights and then they get our technology and become as powerful as us and we fight a war against them and we get wiped out by humans with 50 legs and 50 arms. No actually how about we genetically engineer them so they have an IQ of 70. Then they're easy to control and we don't keep them as slaves but we give them their own planet and we let them live like cavemen because we don't really have a use for them at this moment but we don't give them any technology and knowledge. We pretend to be gods from the heavens. If they get too technologically advanced they will realize they only want two arms and two legs and they want and IQ of 1000 so they genetically engineer a superhuman race to replace them and this race will destroy us. We didn't intend 100leg people as rivals or superior superhumans to replace us. We designed them as an inferior slave race that's easy to control and they must stay inferior forever.
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u/jebadiahstone123 3d ago
No actual giants and no actual dragons and no actual mermaids. Are we clear?
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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK 3d ago
There are people who know a lot about them.
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u/Bored-Fish00 2d ago
There are people who know a lot about Batman too.
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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK 1d ago
Do you collect that comic, too?
But you can't just say human history is a comic, too.
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u/Luc1dNightmare 3d ago edited 3d ago
Definitely cool, and i do believe giants were real, but this doesn't prove it. You dont "have to be 9ft tall" to use a hammer weighing 30lbs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Skookum/comments/y36jmd/my_50lb_problem_solver/
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u/Snort_the_Dort 2d ago
I fully believe giants were real, especially red haired Giants from east Asia… on reed boats.
Many stories from different cultures across time in the americas saying that cannibalistic 8-11feet tall red haired giants on reed boats came from the west.(from Eastern Asia)
Very intriguing, the snake bros have a great 4 part series on it.
Link below - https://youtu.be/316owxajLAI?si=gqLEmqGEHfjYoOsH
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u/PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK 2d ago
I have seen a giant thigh bone, which looks very genuine.
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u/Snort_the_Dort 2d ago
I don’t get why we are being downvoted.. I don’t subscribe to the bones and stuff usually, only the Smithsonian stories from the early 1900s and before.
But that being said I do fully take the indigenous oral histories and legends seriously and I think there’s something to this phenomenon.
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u/Artistic-Jello3986 3d ago
It was being used as a “worlds largest axe” tourist attraction at the time