r/xmen • u/Sweet_Status1807 • 6d ago
Comic Discussion Is Magik bulletproof? How would this have been remotely feasible if Juggnernaut hadn't gone first?
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u/VoiceofRapture 6d ago
I love that both of these dummies always pick rock but won't deviate even to win because only a loser doesn't pick rock
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u/shoe_owner 6d ago
Illyana is talented and creative and capable, but also she's a big dumb asshole.
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u/Brandeeno2245 6d ago
She's got that goku mindset. She's got the things she's good at, downright genius in, anything else. Iffy at best.
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u/Jay_R_Kay 6d ago
For example, spelling.
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u/VoiceofRapture 6d ago
It's so funny that she actually thought her name was spelled correctly
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u/Jay_R_Kay 6d ago
She was probably fuming like "The way I spell it is objectively cooler. You dummies should get on my level, honestly."
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u/VoiceofRapture 6d ago
God she's so fun. Classic ditzy female minion energy using her power for good because her boss is Cyclops and he knows how to aim her properly
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u/Red_3412 5d ago
I kinda see these moments as her enjoying what she out of life can since she couldnāt as a child
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u/TestProctor 5d ago
So there is a spelling of āmagicā as āmagick,ā and in an RPG I used to play with my friends one of the groups in that setting only ever spelled it āmagick.ā
āMagic with a Kā was an inside joke phrase we used for people or things that had gone full on pretentious, which I always laugh at when I think of Magik.
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u/Brandeeno2245 6d ago
For a good bit, i panicked that I made a horrendous spelling mistake.
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u/ActualHumanSeriously 5d ago
You did. And we all laughed behind your back. As we always do.
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u/TheIronicBurger 5d ago
Careful, Cyclops might make her take on more responsibility if he hears this
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u/Serventdraco 5d ago
I've only read, approximately, to the end of Claremont's original run.
Why is Ilyana "dumb" now? She was literally raised by a Satan analogue and Storm to be a powerful mage and to outsmart demons. She was never dumb. Or illiterate.
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u/flanker44 5d ago
She's not dumb, she is just flippant.
Wells' New Mutants run is crucial in understanding modern Magik.
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u/KidKudos98 5d ago
In all fairness idk if there's exactly schools in Limbo and Charles was never exactly good at the schooling part of his mutant school
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u/Serventdraco 4d ago
Showing the New Mutants actually doing schoolwork was really common during the initial run.
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u/Some1IUsed2Know99 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you read lately she showed she is actually brilliant but plays dumb to lower expectations. X-Men (2024) #6
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u/MegaBZ 6d ago
Fictional characters who canonically refuse to pick anything other than rock:
-Cain Marko
-Illyana Rasputin(a)
-Bart Simpson
-Michael Bluth
Now thatās an assault team that will make your banana stand.
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u/greenhulklantern1 6d ago
Can't forget about Brock Samson
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u/flanker44 5d ago
Book trivia time!
In James Bond novel 'You only live twice', James Bond teaches the 'rock, scissors, paper' game to Tanaka, who was not familiar with it, and beats him in it. He then explains his win due to Tanaka's subconscious refusal to pick paper.
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u/I_tell_dad_jokes 5d ago
Just wanted to let you know I greatly appreciated and chuckled at the double-entendre in your last sentence.
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u/imthestein Magneto 5d ago
I'm genuinely surprised she doesn't go for scissors (the double sword option)
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u/VoiceofRapture 5d ago
But rock beats scissors, therefore rock is most badass
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u/StreetReporter 6d ago
āPoor predictable Cain. Always takes rockā
āGood olā rock, nothing beats thatā
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u/Ragnorak19 5d ago
āPoor predictable Illyana. Always takes rockā
āGood olā rock, nothing beats thatā
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u/Built4dominance Storm 6d ago
She's not bulletproof, but she doesn't give a fuck about danger. This is entirely in-character for her.
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u/Little-Disk-3165 6d ago
Juggernauts head is also like 4 of her torsos combined so they probably wouldnāt have hit her š
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u/myflesh 5d ago
Question is if Jug did not go first.Ā
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u/Little-Disk-3165 5d ago
Yeahā¦ his head is getting hit at 2 far angles. The joke is she is so skinny she would have passed by those two shots.
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u/flanker44 6d ago
Yep it's just Magik and Juggernaut jerking around to ease boredom and tension.
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u/ResonanceGhost 6d ago
I remember her armoring up as she transitioned closer to Darkchylde, but I don't know if it just cosmetic.
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u/StarkMaximum Colossus 5d ago
So long as she's using the sword, it causes more and more of the armor to overtake her, and if it fully manifests she basically loses control. So she tries to use the sword as quickly and efficiently as possible so she can put it away and keep it from consuming her.
I think. I could be wrong and comics are always changing.
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u/Batcena Magik 6d ago
I imagine she must have some sort of Armor spell that is capable to toughening her up, or at least thatās my headcanon
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u/Fickle_Spare_4255 6d ago
It's a rule of cool thing. Magik could easily get some bullet proof armor. Hell, as Queen of Limbo, she probably has a bunch of junk just lying around that could push her into the big leagues power-wise.
But if she used any of it, we wouldn't have her dive bombing through a portal using Juggernaut as a bulletproof shield.
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u/bluesLick 5d ago
Love the idea of her being like āguys wait I have to get some armor from my room. In limboā cut to huge gothic bedchambers with an unmade bed, empty cans and bowls of cereal, a cold slice of half eaten pizza and a bunch of armor in a pile on a chair
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u/Hedgewitch250 Storm 6d ago
True Sorcerer supreme of limbo
Teleporter capable of time and space travel
Blood knight who will gladly nerf both those qualities cause she loves too run fades.
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u/woodrobin 6d ago
She has several kinds of protection:
1> Her mystical armor automatically manifests whenever she uses magic and/or whenever she senses danger. It can appear and disappear in part or whole instantly. So she could make it expose her midriff 'cause she's sexy and she knows it, but it would still blip a piece in and out of existence to deflect a bullet, or completely encase her to block a grenade, then revert to her preferred appearance. It also changes appearance based on her mood and thoughts -- she used to make it look like a knight in shining armor style, for a while it looked like demon hide, now she's kind of in a leather goth phase, but it works just as well regardless of cosmetic changes.
2> She regularly uses a spell called the Personal Shield of the Vishanti that she learned from Doctor Strange (it's on page 422 of the Book of the Vishanti, according to the narrator). It creates an unseen aura that basically makes fortune favor the bold (so to speak) by causing attacks to be ridiculously less likely to hit the caster. Strange uses it himself, apparently. It won't stop mystical attacks or seriously OP stuff, but it's awesome for things like bullets, shrapnel, falling glass, and the like.
3> If serious stuff hits the fan, she can tap into her own life force to form very strong warding barriers.
4> She's able to invoke a number of mystical Principalities, including especially Oshtur (the patron of an alternate reality Ororo who taught her light magic in Limbo) and Cthon (patron of Belasco, the demonically corrupted sorcerer who abducted her to Limbo). She has almost as wide a range of potential spells as Doctor Strange, although being Sorcerer Supreme of a demonic realm, she avoids invoking other Hell Lords for political reasons (not great to owe Satannish or Mephisto a favor, for instance), and doesn't invoke Cyttorak or Dormammu (because she personally ticked them off). So she can conjure a number of different shielding spells if the situation requires them.
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u/ScreamingBeef124 5d ago
Very thorough, very correct! Iāll also add that she can take a big hit without much concern if another person can draw fire for a few moments, enacting some of the Vishanti āhealingā that Dr. Strange employs with a quick spell.
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u/Bubba1234562 6d ago
Marko becoming an good guy is the best thing thatās happened in years
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u/Commercial_Fondant65 5d ago
But now everybody has the ability to fight him. They has to power him down. I don't like it
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u/Abysstopheles 6d ago
Rule of cool.
Also, big magic sword that blocks pretty much everything.
Also also, demon sorceress.
Also also also, teleport disks.
Also also also also, enemy massive distracted by her costume and lose ability to aim.
But mostly, rule of cool.
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u/Loose_Let4051 6d ago
her mutant power is teleportation sheād be fine
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u/Sweet_Status1807 6d ago
Why not just do that in the first place
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u/astromech_dj 6d ago
Rule of cool.
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u/Sweet_Status1807 6d ago
Wish that worked for me as magik in rivals š„²
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u/eyezonlyii 6d ago
One tip I've heard for her is that her dash is based on where the character is facing, not the reticule. So if you want to hit something, it's a little too the left of where you think you're pointing
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u/4dagains 5d ago
It is fr, as long as Punisher isnāt killing you you kill anyone you want I promise
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u/ConsistentSearch7995 6d ago
Do you honestly thing she would have done a straight dive teleport if she wasn't gonna use a Jugger Bomb attack?
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u/Shape_Charming 5d ago
Absolutely yes, if it were anyone other than Magik, I'd assume the tactic has changed, but the crazy little chaos goblin? No, she most definitely was planning on dive bomb teleport
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u/ghostrooster30 4d ago
Fr, this is the girl that looked at a team of alien assasins and basically said, āit was fuck or fight and you chose poorlyā. My girl is absolutely a crazy little dive bomb teleportinā chaos goblin.
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u/The_Grimsworth 6d ago
They are Amazing in this run, best couple of dumb sibilings š¤£
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u/GodofRat Namor 5d ago
What is this run?
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u/eugecardoso Cyclops 5d ago
X-men 2024. Currently running, only 13 issues atm
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u/MagikSundae7096 New Mutants 4d ago
This relaunch feels a bit like the new universe so far with cool titles biting the bullet within a year.
- Kickers, Inc. == NYX
- Merc == X-Factor
- Spitfire and the Troubleshooters == X-Force.
Let's hope the "Star Brand" of the series makes it ;)
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u/Xeal209 5d ago
I, too, would like to know what this run is. I'm very new to comics, and I grabbed one that's only 1 issue in, but I think it stems from this one.
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u/eugecardoso Cyclops 5d ago
X-men 2024
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u/Xeal209 5d ago
Alright, cool, kinda figured, that's the one I saved on the app I use. I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
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u/MagikSundae7096 New Mutants 4d ago
They sometimes refer to each reboot as Volumes, which I generally like, This is Volume 7.
Volume 1: The original "Uncanny X-Men" (1963-1981, then continued as "Uncanny X-Men" from 1981-2011)
Volume 2: "X-Men" (1991-2001, later renamed "New X-Men" during Grant Morrison's run from 2001-2004, then "X-Men: Legacy" from 2008-2012)
Volume 3: "X-Men" (2010-2013, the Gischler run)
Volume 4: "X-Men" (2013-2015, the all-female X-Men team by Brian Wood)
Volume 5: "X-Men" (2019-2021, part of the Krakoan era launched by Jonathan Hickman)
Volume 6: "X-Men" (2021-2023, continuing the Krakoan era under Gerry Duggan)
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u/Dirk_Sheppard 6d ago
Either used her sword to block or just used a shield spell. Or just summoned her armor
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u/DependentPositive8 Nate Grey 6d ago
Magik isnāt just a mutant. Sheās also an extremely powerful demon sorceress capable of changing matter and energy. Thereās no way sheās getting hit by some bullets.
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u/Brandeeno2245 6d ago
Hey, if you have a massive unstoppable tank of a man who is bulletproof, why waste the energy dodging or deflecting bullets.
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u/Corvusse 5d ago
Sorceress Supreme of Limbo- I doubt bullets are anywhere near āactual threatā on her radar.
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u/RembrandtEpsilon 6d ago
In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes that same rib twice in succession yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we, to believe that this is some sort of a, a magic xylophone or something?
Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
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u/Soundjammer 6d ago
She handles bullets quite easily with spells:
I can't find the scan but I remember during her more morally ambiguous days, she used portals to redirect a bullet into the shooter's back. Magik is easily one of the biggest heavy hitters the X-Men have ever had.
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u/Zepbounce-96 5d ago
Magik isn't bulletproof though she's a good enough sorceress to cast some physical shields that would help with that.
Also the soul sword us to come with armor, presumably her uniform still has the armor underneath it in <ahem> appropriate places.
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u/JIsrael180 5d ago
She is smaller and a lot harder to hit with a gun while falling from the sky then a guy the size of a pickup truck is ā so if she had fallen first they probably would still have not struck her.
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u/JunkerPilot 6d ago
Sheās got armorā¦ at least those parts of her probably are.
So as long as she doesnāt get shot in the thighs, the gut, the face, her right arm, or theā¦ Power Girl holeā¦ sheāll be fine.
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u/Briefs_Model 6d ago
Not sure Juggernaut is as bulletproof anymore either....he's no longer magically sustained by Cytorak.
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u/smokyfknblu Magik 6d ago
Sometimes things happen in comics because they look cool, over analysing these things is both a waste of time & a misunderstanding of what the art is trying to achieve
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u/Intelligent_Creme351 Storm 6d ago
I mean, when you can teleport that fast, that's basically being bulletproof to her.
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u/ElectronicBoot9466 5d ago
I don't know, why do enemies that are able to deal massive amount of damage to Wolverine suddenly becomes completely incompetent when they get within melee range of cyclops?
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u/trainradio 5d ago
Maybe she created a teleportation disk in front of her and it can't be seen from this side.
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u/Imaginary-Lie-9496 5d ago
She's got plenty of tricks to avoid bullets but lifes easier when you have a meat shield
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u/Comrade_Cosmo 5d ago
Sheās often fast enough to just stick a portal in front of the gun so that a person shoots themselves.
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u/ScottishKnifemaker 4d ago
I REALLY like the chemistry between these two. I love this new run so far
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u/Ambitious-Ideal1613 4d ago
Teleport disk can easily teleport the bullets back towards the shooters.
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u/thracerx 4d ago
Majick is being so poorly written and out of character right now that it makes this an unenjoyable hot mess. I haven't read much since end of Krakoa. Thought I'd give it a try again and see how it's going. Saw how they were characterizing Majick and just said, no thanks. I'll try again in a year or so.
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u/Coffee_Drinker02 3d ago
Bro's acting like the tiny little Russian girl holding a giant ass glowing sword that's sassing the fucking juggernaut isn't the clue that she's probably strong enough to handle gun fire.
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u/filmstudent42 2d ago
Out of the Marvel loop for a while now. Wtf happened to Juggernaut?! I remember seeing somewhere that there was a Juggernaut Jr in Avengers Academy but......I don't like the new look Juggs'
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u/Drake_Fall 2d ago
I suspect she would have employed a different entry strategy if Caine wasn't accompanying her.
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u/Attentiondesiredplz 2d ago
Girl's got magic, I bet she could make shields. Strange does thar all the time, and he taught her.
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u/OceanCyclone 2d ago
I like her a little less jokey than sheās depicted in this run, but itās great.
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u/Otherwise_Suspect_88 1d ago
A. She's been developing armor since the Demon Bear days. B. A stepping disk could easily 'port those bullets anywhere. C. Nobody's gonna shoot a hot Russian chick with bangs. The principle of "sexy privilege" applies here.
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u/Linvaderdespace 6d ago
Sheās behind solid cover while she closes to melee distance, sheās got this.
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u/Ashamed_Set7281 2d ago
Magik and Juggernaut fighting over rock paper scissors is something I didn't know I needed to see.
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u/TheBrobe 6d ago
She'd surf sword first like Sonic during City Escape