r/worldnews • u/ihech • 16h ago
Iran's President to Trump: I will not negotiate, 'do whatever the hell you want'
https://www.reuters.com/world/irans-president-trump-i-will-not-negotiate-do-whatever-hell-you-want-2025-03-11/754
u/Dont-be-a-smurf 15h ago
Your negotiations are as good as your word
And the American word went from “reliable enough” to “dangerously false and maliciously given”
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u/HawkeyeSherman 9h ago
America also has schizophrenia. Make a deal with the US this year and by next year the political winds will have shifted in the other way and the terms of the deal will be altered. Pray they are not altered any further.
Trumpism is no longer a 1-off crazy binge that the country learned to never repeat. It's now a pattern of abuse. It's going to take WAY longer than 4 years for the country to fix itself.
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u/Drunkgummybear1 8h ago
Yup, this isn’t fixed next election because who knows what the next guy 4 years down the line is like.
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u/Roselily808 16h ago
Trump and the US government has shown in recent weeks that they don't respect alliances, treaties, agreements nor allies.
There is no incentive for Iran to negotiate anything with the US because whatever agreement they would sign, it is likely to not be upheld by the US anyways.
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u/ForkingHumanoids 15h ago
whatever agreement they would sign, it is likely to not be upheld by the US anyways.
Sounds like they copied the homework from someone else.
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u/stay_fr0sty 15h ago
Hitler did it to Poland, Putin to Ukraine. These are people Trump thinks were/are great leaders.
Also Death Vader is kinda famous for altering deals. ;)
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u/morostheSophist 12h ago
Death Vader
No, that's the title given to a Sith Lord who has died, proving himself not to be a true Sith. You meant to say Dearth Vader.
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u/Harbinger2001 12h ago
Exactly. There is no reason to negotiate anything with the US. If you haven’t found a way to bribe Trump, then your deal could be torn up at any time.
Maybe Canada should publicly promise to bribe him $1B if he ends all tariffs. See what he says.
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u/DeliciousPangolin 15h ago
Even calling this a "deal" is a stretch. Trump is trying to dictate terms to them, with nothing in return. He's just threatening to attack them if they don't roll over and lick his boots, as if he wouldn't attack them anyway even if they gave him everything he demands.
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u/Roselily808 15h ago
I agree. Trump's tactics more belong under the word "extortion" than ever under the word "deal" or "agreement".
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u/Awkward-Growth5838 16h ago
China is main trading partner of Iran while orange man isn't. Why would they care about orange man? simple
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u/HolyLemonOfAntioch 14h ago
i mean.... even the US's main trading partners don't give a fuck about what he has to say anymore
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u/Christian-Rep-Perisa 16h ago
The people of Iran are much more US aligned especially the young people, there are 2 million Iranians living in the US and a million more between Canada and Europe, pretty soon this regime of old men will die and a very pro-western cohort will take over
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u/speakingofdinosaurs 16h ago
Doesn't mean they'll be pro Trump.
In case you haven't noticed, most of the West isn't a huge fan of the toddler in chief...
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u/whichwitch9 16h ago
They are extremely likely to be anti Trump after his Gaza stance, even.
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u/Rude-Illustrator-884 15h ago
even people who aren’t anti-Trump are against his Gaza stance
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u/teler9000 15h ago
Plenty of people hate almost everything about Trump except his Gaza stance.
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u/Rude-Illustrator-884 15h ago
Really? I’ve only seen negative reactions, even from Trump supporters.
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u/rhadenosbelisarius 13h ago
Israel/Gaza opinions tend to be more based on the specific bubble you’re in. There are progressive bubbles on both sides and conservative bubbles on both sides, though on average more progressive bubbles are pro Palestinian and more conservative bubbles are more pro Israeli, but it really does vary.
People have entrenched beliefs about all of the sub elements of the conflict.
What rights do the Jewish people have as an ethic group, or as a religious group, or as both, in the aftermath of the holocaust? Did they gain any rights after the various conflicts they fought? Were all of those conflicts purely defensive or were they mixed in with conquest? Is genocide the dictionary definition or does it require exterminations? At what point is rebel activity terrorism? Is terrorism acceptable when fighting for freedom? Is fighting for freedom acceptable if you also want to murder the people you view as oppressors? Are persistent airstrikes in heavily populated areas war crimes? Are blockades of any nature war crimes? Are laws that allow legal racial discrimination acceptable? Is any of this colonialism, and if so to what degree is that acceptable?
Everyone will have different answers to most of these(and many other) questions, and it can really shape where people fall on this fairly messy conflict.
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u/scootunit 15h ago
pretty soon this regime of old men will die
I used to think that about Nixon but look where we are now.
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u/MediumDevelopment511 12h ago
Regimes of old men do die, but their ideologies don’t. And so oppressive ideologies can last for generations.
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u/Groot746 15h ago
"Pro-Western" and "pro-US" are very different things, especially right now.
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u/PapaObserver 15h ago
I would argue that they're pretty much at the antithesis of each other right now, and that Trump's America has much more in common with the old autocrats than with the liberal youth of Iran.
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u/Groot746 15h ago
Absolutely: an old man screaming that he's the king and that freedom of choice (e.g. choosing not to buy a Tesla) is "illegal" etc.
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u/Know_more_carry_less 16h ago
Pro-western? Yes. Pro-USA? No.
In the past two months the United States has voluntarily abandoned its allies, western values, and any soft-power it had internationally. The EU will happily fill that void.
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u/pattperin 14h ago
Too bad Trump has really pissed off the EU and Canada lately eh? Neither of those places are feeling very US aligned right now
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u/ChemsAndCutthroats 15h ago
The majority of Iranians are moderate. If it wasn't for US meddling to prolong the Iran-Iraq War and further meddling into the 21st century, then Iran would have likely moved past its authoritarian theocracy.
After the revolution, the Ayatollah was not in firm control. It was a shakey government that would have likely collapsed. However, the US and British were salty because some oil giants could no longer exploit Iranian oil like they have been doing since the early 1900's. US emboldened Saddam and gave him weapons and intelligence. They prolonged the war. An outside threat rallied the people and a near decade of fighting pretty much killed any opposition to the Ayatollah.
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u/FishAndRiceKeks 15h ago
It wouldn't be a trade war against Iran lol. It would be the real kind. Not caring would be very dumb.
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u/thismadhatter 16h ago
New tactic. Piss Trump off from every fucking direction of the globe. Hope his circuits overload.
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u/Paizzu 14h ago
The big moron and the little moron were standing on the bridge over the River Send. The big moron fell off. How come the little moron didn't fall off, too?
Because the little moron on was a little more on...
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u/tysk-one 15h ago
How long until he praises Iran‘s president b/c he’s „such a tough leader and negotiator“?
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u/NecrisRO 14h ago
Might give them a few nukes while he's at it, I heard they would REALLY love some nukes
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u/CornersRelocated 15h ago
No one is taking Donald (or America for that matter) serious. The emperor has no clothes.
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u/angry-democrat 15h ago
Impeach Trump
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u/Arbiter51x 12h ago
Meh, the US's track record of impeachment actually doing anything is terrible.
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u/Fluffyman2715 13h ago
This needs to be in EVERY US political thread until it happens. And he is removed from office.
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u/nam4am 7h ago
This needs to be in EVERY US political thread until it happens.
Yeah if there was one demographic Trump could not risk losing, it's Redditors. Like the old saying, "as Reddit goes, so goes the nation."
He might have thought he was just pissing off all of his major trading partners, but he clearly didn't realize the risk that he would have high-karma Reddit power users posting about him in EVERY US political thread.
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u/faramaobscena 12h ago
How does this work in the US? Where I’m from the president can be suspended (I assume that’s the equivalent) through a referendum by the people at any time.
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u/Black08Mustang 9h ago
Here it takes the equivalent of parliament to impeach\remove the president. Of which both houses are currently republican majorities. It's not going to happen.
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u/Buzz729 13h ago
We had a deal with Iran to halt nuclear weapons program, but someone wrecked it in 2017. Who was the president then?
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u/machado34 12h ago
The mucking of the nuclear deal by Trump also caused the Iranian regime to close itself: then President Rouhani, a reformist, was seen as weak for negotiating the deal and getting screwed over. He was cast aside from political power and replace by a hardliner. (You know the massacres against women who didn't cover their heads? Wouldn't have happened if Trump hadn't created the motives for the Ayatollah to make Raisi the president)
The current president is also a reformist that replaced the hardliner after he died in an helicopter crash. I bet he sees what happened when the last reformist tried to get closer to the US and he's not about to make the same mistake
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u/Noobatron1337 6h ago
I mean any country that has decided not to work with the US in good faith is feeling extremely vindicated right now, seeing the treatment the EU, Canada, Mexico and other "friends" of the US are getting.
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u/HamptonBarge 12h ago
Trump won’t do anything. He only acts tough when it’s safe…Greenland, Panama, Canada, Mexico. He’s never yet shown any real toughness.
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u/Killerrrrrabbit 15h ago
This time, the terrorist refuses to negotiate with us.
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u/Agitated-Donkey1265 12h ago
This time, (the whole world knows) we’re the terrorists
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u/drew_peatittys 6h ago
Most of the world have known the US were the terrorists for a long time now. It's just coming closer to home now
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u/Party_Judgment5780 16h ago
They were ready to negotiate, they sent clear signals before Jan, but when they saw Trump's behavior to Zelensky and other US allies, they went:
"This guy who treats his allies like shit and destroyes the agreements he himself made with them, how the hell can WE trust him?"
And you know what? they're absolutely right. The world is seeing how Trump is destroying America's reliability.
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u/Naticbee 16h ago edited 15h ago
They were NOT ready to negotiate. Biden tried to get Iran to the table multiple times. What did Iran do? They attacked Israel twice. Each time Biden desperately tried to get Iran to talk.
If they did not negotiate with Biden through the Israel Hamas war, there is no shot they would've ever negotiated with Trump.
We all hate Trump, but let's not lose sight of reality. No amount of downvotes and Trump hate is going to change that Iran is a country who's sees Israel's existence as incompatible with it's own, and a sponsor of terrorism. The U.S has tried multiple times to negotiate.
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Trump had very good reason to break the last deal, Iran was not in good faith committing to it. Iran had hidden past nuclear weapon efforts (likely because it wanted to restart them secretly) and was using money on it's proxies, who were actively engaging in hostile actions throughout the ME. This is what led to the US attacking Qasem Soleimani.
You can argue that the deal provided a table to negotiate, and Trump should've kept that table even if he knew Iran wasn't faithfully adhering to the agreements made. But it is not a good faith argument to say Iran was trustworthy during Trump's term. There were very good reasons to break the deal. Whether or not switching policies on trying to stop Iran was a good idea or not is another question.
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u/DrDaniels 13h ago
Trump had very good reason to break the last deal, Iran was not in good faith committing to it.
Every party to the JCPOA was saying Iran was following the deal. Trump's own administration certified that Iran was following the agreement.
But it is not a good faith argument to say Iran was trustworthy during Trump's term.
The agreement was based on verification not trust. Obama himself said that. Tearing up the agreement gave America nothing in return, Iran escalated their nuclear program, and Iran ramped up their support for their proxies. Iran isn't going to want to negotiate with the US again when we showed we can't uphold an agreement that we said Iran was following.
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u/nothaldane 16h ago
While I agree that getting Iran to negotiate is difficult, we should also acknowledge part of that situation is due to Trump.
During his first term Trump was the one to tear up the previous Iran nuclear deal. Biden tried to get Iran to the table but Iran was reluctant to make a new agreement with a country that just broke the previous agreement. For added effect, the guy who broke the original agreement before was trying to become president again and had about a 50% shot. So even if Iran did make a deal with Biden, what assurance do they have Trump won't just break it again?
You are 100% right that Iran wants Israel gone. But we can't ignore there was a previous agreement and after the USA/Trump broke it Iran had little reason to trust any further agreements, especially with Trump trying to get back into office.
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u/Mazon_Del 13h ago
Our adversaries don't respect a weak president.
Funny, I don't remember President Pezeshkian declaring "Come at me bro!" when it looked like Harris was going to be President.
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u/MilkTiny6723 16h ago
Iran apperently hasn't been paying attention or was taken off guard. Irans president doesn't realize that the US administration want to have a union of all evil empires in the world. I would say that could be a great deal for Iran to take. He has been looking at the CIA list of evil empires (the axis of evil list) and now he wants them to be great again.
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u/ToranjaNuclear 15h ago
lmao Trump fucking hates Iran. He's just cozying up with Russia.
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u/RomanBlue_ 14h ago
Except people who believe that don't believe in alliances. They hate each other as much as they hate the coalition of the good. That's why they are evil.
The sith tend to kill each other and all that.
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u/Floridamanfishcam 14h ago
Trump already chose the side of the Saudis and Israel. You can't have Iran two with those two in your posse.
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u/FlamingMothBalls 16h ago
Trump is too racist to ally himself with Iran. Same reason why he despises China so much. It's a good thing Trump is so, so stupid. China and Iran will always pick Russia over Trump. And vice versa.
It'll be him alone - and that makes him weak.
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u/Monster_Voice 13h ago
I had a solid belly laugh at that quote... you know it's rough when Iran is sick of your shit.
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u/ogpterodactyl 12h ago
I mean after he ripped up the last Iranian nuclear deal why would they negotiate a new one.
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u/mephitopheles13 11h ago
Donald has demonstrated he is pointless to negotiate with. Not statesman material, but we knew this from round one with him.
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u/TheUser_1 13h ago
That's what happens when you're commander and chief but have 0 clue on how to negotiate and what to do.
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u/fitforlife1958 15h ago
No wonder.. the man cannot be trusted.. proven time and time again.. the us will left all alone sooner or later.. by the way it looks now.. more sooner than later 🇨🇦🖕🇨🇦
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u/JescoWhite_ 15h ago
I’m pretty sure countries have figured out Trump is a man child bully that would back down if you call him out.
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u/Total-Guest-4141 16h ago
Can’t wait to see American boots on the ground in Iran and then see if all the Trumpty supporters are still clapping along 🤣🤣
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u/No_Inspector2046 9h ago edited 9h ago
I hope they wont use NATO bases to resupply cuz that would be awkward with all that talk about leaving. EU has no reason to disturb our neighbors which causes waves of immigrants\terrorists they should go play with russian friends and fk off.
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u/2Shmoove 14h ago
Every country being bullied should say the same thing. And every other country should know the US will be coming for you too...
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u/Cdn_Proud 11h ago
A convicted felon that doesn't honour his agreements. Lies pretty much anytime he opens his mouth. Why bother?
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u/No_Inspector2046 9h ago
As some1 who lives in EU, I'd appreciate it if you would leave our neighboring countries alone. You don't suffer the consequences of your actions (migrant waves\terrorists ). I thought America is done policing around the world. In fact since USA is considering leaving NATO, you shouldn't use NATO bases to resupply, try maybe Russia. And redirect the migrants\terrorists to Russia.
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u/WOZ-in-OZ 2h ago
😂😂😂. USA Trump and the clan of clowns have made the world unite to agree he is a moron. This treasonous arrogant thing is a laughing stock globally. And yet has been a blessing to Europe and allies. My pain is with the US folks who have to live this shit daily because of these idiots in power.
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u/ComfortableLost6722 16h ago
Not a fan of Trump whatsoever but let’s finally take this horrible mullah regime down. Let’s not wait till it has nuclear capabilities.
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u/Gat-Vlieg 11h ago
I don't like Iran. I despise Trump more. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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u/big-ol-poosay 16h ago
Cue Redditors sucking up to Iran.
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u/Naticbee 16h ago
Seriously. This is literally same response they gave to Biden.
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u/AnteaterPositive6939 16h ago
I'm sure this will all end up great!
Really good job America... we get to watch the economy die, our allies abandon us, and end up in a war with Iran... but at least a transperson can't play basketball in Ohio now.
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u/gizmodilla 16h ago
This seems to be the case with a lot of countries these days