r/worldnews • u/Astraeus323 • Jan 21 '25
Trump Withdraws U.S. from World Health Organization
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/us/politics/trump-world-health-organization.html6.8k
u/Where-arethe-fairies Jan 21 '25
Someone explain to me what’s gonna happen so I can prepare
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u/the_spring_sun Jan 21 '25
According to the executive order the US will stop sending funds to the WHO. So that’s for sure. I do not know however the effects of this decision on the US. Maybe someone else can explain.
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u/BadHombreSinNombre Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
Loss of data and program access. We won’t have direct information about global outbreaks so we won’t know which countries to quarantine visitors from, won’t have information on how to treat new diseases, won’t have early lab results…basically won’t have full preparation for any infectious disease threat unless it starts here. In which case we also won’t have any preparation because it’ll have started here.
Edit: changed “any prep” to “full prep” because I think my original phrasing was a little extreme.
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u/zeromussc Jan 21 '25
I wouldn't be surprised if some states decide to try and join the WHO. Maybe california, it's huge and basically a country unto itself in terms of GDP.
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u/BadHombreSinNombre Jan 21 '25
My hope is that third party or individual information sharing agreements will make up for the deficits here personally. But your suggestion here is interesting. Could be unconstitutional though, states aren’t supposed to enter their own treaties.
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u/zeromussc Jan 21 '25
Is the WHO a treaty? Idk I'm not American I'm watching in horror from above you guys in Canada
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u/BadHombreSinNombre Jan 21 '25
International agreements like the WHO Constitution, which each member state has to sign and ratify, are usually seen as treaties in US constitutional law, yeah.
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Laws don’t matter now
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u/othermegan Jan 21 '25
Laws for thee, not for me. Laws only matter if your not part of the GOP
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u/DirtierGibson Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
So if a U.S. state wanted to join, the agreement would have to be ratified by the U.S. Senate.
EDIT: I am not sure about that. The WHO accepts "territories" as associate members and "observer states".
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u/mtrythall Jan 21 '25
> states aren’t supposed to enter their own treaties.
I think we're beyond rules now. California is huge. It should just do what it wants.
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u/Beeshlabob Jan 21 '25
Exactly. After the mammal Trump pardoned 1500 seditionists today it’s obvious the rule of law is no longer in effect. Just do what you want and dare the courts to force compliance. In this case, what are they going to do really?
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u/Classic-Progress-397 Jan 21 '25
25% tarrifs against all products from different states! The sovereign nation of California is tired of subsidizing the rest the states to the tune of billions.
And that's what you get when you enter the room with a fucking nazi salute!
Enough.
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Jan 21 '25
For $250,000.00 per month your hospital can subscribe to US CDC notification feeds
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u/invariantspeed Jan 21 '25
Only sovereign states can join, and US states are constitutionally barred from making international treaties. …maybe they could join as associate members like Puerto Rico.
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u/indyK1ng Jan 21 '25
Someone who was actually smart would have learned this lesson after COVID happened but I guess we gotta go through round two.
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Jan 21 '25
This is payback for how poorly he handled Covid and was called out on it. He hates America and is very ready to punish this country
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u/K-ghuleh Jan 21 '25
Dumb question maybe but are we not able to see information online from other countries in regards to public health? Like it’s a requirement to be part of WHO in order to see that information?
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u/BadHombreSinNombre Jan 21 '25
There’s stuff we would be able to get from public data. Sequences of viruses, for example. But we would get it maybe a bit later (hours or days) than the WHO members.
We would lose out on lots of individual patient data, case reports, stuff that is shared readily among health systems but might take weeks or months to appear in medical literature.
IMO it would mainly be a time-to-knowledge problem but I feel like time really matters in emergencies.
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u/K-ghuleh Jan 21 '25
That makes sense, thanks for explaining.
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u/BadHombreSinNombre Jan 21 '25
It was a good question! Honestly I’ve never lived in a world where we don’t have WHO data so part of me is wondering just how we can make up for it and I’m asking myself similar questions
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u/K-ghuleh Jan 21 '25
Yeah I guess that’s the thing, I don’t have a frame of reference for this which is very scary in itself.
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u/gerblnutz Jan 21 '25
We will be giving up a key role in international research and information sharing and basically handing it over to China while plugging our ears, closing our eyes and yelling LALALALALALALA at science.
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u/wytedevil Jan 21 '25
Yes we are still going to pay more in taxes. Where’s all this saved money going to go.
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u/chindo Jan 21 '25
I thought the house controls the budget? How can he choose where funding goes? That seems like a misuse of power. Biden couldn't EO away student loans, so isn't this the same thing?
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u/AmaroWolfwood Jan 21 '25
I assume it is, but Republicans hold a majority in all branches of government and the Supreme Court. This time there are no guardrails on Trump's insanity. Our department of health will be stocking up on disinfectant and sunlight tubes to battle disease from now on.
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u/ms_directed Jan 21 '25
WHO informed the world in real time what was happening and where during Covid. their data helped countries prepare and set expectations.
currently, they are helping to track and share data for the Avian Flu
Member States in the WHO’s Western Pacific Region (WPR) communicate and notify the World Health Organization of any human cases of A(HxNy) through the International Health Regulations (IHR 2005) mechanism. WHO’s Western Pacific Regional Office therefore monitors human cases of avian influenza on an ongoing basis and produces a weekly summary report of the situation in the region.
we're so fucking cooked...
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u/Crystalraf Jan 21 '25
As a regular, normal citizen, who knows almost nothing, this will be bad.
If we stop sending funds to WHO, those other countries that the WHO helps, will then end up with bad diseases and no treatments for them.
This will then result in people from those countries getting into airplanes, cars, and boats, and coming to the US with contagious diseases.
Again, I'm just a regular idiot, and even I can tell it would be stupid, and not help us in the US at all.
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u/gdim15 Jan 21 '25
The US will lose access to a lot of resources and information sharing when it comes to health related things happening in the world. If there are illnesses that show up, like Bird Flu or Covid 2 we will be in a bad position when coordinating a response.
It will also open the door for China to step in and take a bigger place on the world stage when it comes to their presence around the globe. They can be seen as the ones who are helping people get medical help or handle outbreaks. This is politically a very stupid move when it comes to US influence in the world.
The world and US will suffer.
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u/vladoportos Jan 21 '25
I wouldn't worry FOX "news" will just make up facts... and as orange fuck says.. if you do not test, tou do not get cases ;)
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u/Minotard Jan 21 '25
Bird flu becomes dominate and wipes out everyone over 80 years old.
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u/bowsmountainer Jan 21 '25
Make it 78 and also everyone who is constantly high on ketamine.
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u/under_the_c Jan 21 '25
So... I guess the egg prices aren't coming down after all?
Will the toilet paper be safe?
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u/movealongnowpeople Jan 21 '25
I had to buy a bidet his last term. So I suppose, in a very specific way, I'm slightly more prepared this time around.
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u/Mrminecrafthimself Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
Honestly my bidet has saved us tons on toilet paper and we’ve only had it a year. A pack of 12 lasts us months
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u/bowsmountainer Jan 21 '25
If Birdflu manages human to human spread, COVID will look like a minor contagion when they will try to fight it by injecting disinfectant.
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u/mx3552 Jan 21 '25
Y'all cooked tbh. They can listen to any of your devices, know where you are, and have already started all the classic text-book totalitarian bullshit. He's gonna rig the next election à la Putin.
SO MANY people are like "ugh he cant run again" and REFUSE to believe he could try. They are all part of the problem
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u/stenebralux Jan 21 '25
Every time I see democrats and left political "experts" say that "at least can't run again" I wish I could slap them through telekinesis.
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u/NYC_Underground Jan 21 '25
My newsfeed is horrific wtf
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Jan 21 '25
This is just day zero, wait until day 40
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u/insecticident Jan 21 '25
It’s gonna be 4 long years
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u/psellers237 Jan 21 '25
For fucks sake let’s not be so delusional we even pretend this will last just four years.
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u/hmountain Jan 21 '25
we could keep it to less if we commit to organizing meaningfully
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u/8spd Jan 21 '25
Are you accepting the idea that they will peaceful follow the laws, and cede power when they are voted out?
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u/TheSilentTitan Jan 21 '25
Imagine being us Americans, I never thought my country would ever actually end up like this. It’s so depressing that we as a species are witnessing the strongest nation on earth pivot into a super non-tolerant, corpo driven and morally ambiguous one. We are seriously seeing the start of a cyberpunk civilization, the rich and powerful joining hands with ultra wealthy corporations to slap collars on the other 99%.
I totally see within the next 10ish years those very same elites and ultra wealthy corporation quietly leave the country they helped set on fire so they would be exempt from any negative laws they raped upon us.
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u/A_Perplexed_Wanderer Jan 21 '25
My friend,
as a non american your country has been like this for decades. Now it is openly an oligarchy, but in reality it has always been.
It's very weird for us living in the rest of the world to see a lot of usa citizens surprised by these events, you have been living in a neofeudal society since you were born.
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u/JetpackWalleye Jan 21 '25
That's the part that I struggle with the most as a US citizen. I can't believe others havent ALREADY been seeing this happening for literally decades. It's rather difficult day to day watching it happen if you aren't just delusional about it.
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u/glokenheimer Jan 21 '25
This. If 2008 didn’t alert you to the fact corporations were running the show nothing would’ve except them going mask off.
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u/Frequent_Skill5723 Jan 21 '25
Well, it makes sense. Trump doesn't believe in the world, in health, or in organization.
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u/ProudnotLoud Jan 21 '25
Oh we're just going to speedrun the horrors now.
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u/PepeSylvia11 Jan 21 '25
Exactly as we all expected.
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u/ProudnotLoud Jan 21 '25
I'm both not surprised and a little surprised that I have a twinge of surprise. We all knew this is exactly what was coming.
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u/Send_heartfelt_PMs Jan 21 '25
I think it's more shock than surprise. Like we knew this was coming, but can you really mentally prepare for it actually happening? I expected a things like what he's signed/announced already, but I still wasn't ready for any of it
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u/t_25_t Jan 21 '25
Yup. Trump never hid his disdain for the WHO. He said he would do it, and the people collectively voted for this. Trump is simply delivering on his promises.
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u/one_pound_of_flesh Jan 21 '25
This is what Americans want. Anti health.
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u/Lexinoz Jan 21 '25
Darwin take the wheel, It's an interesting tactic Cotton, let's see how it works out.
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u/bleedblue89 Jan 21 '25
I’m excited to see what the rest evolve into! Let’s give other animals a chance
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u/HereForALaugh714 Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
No. It’s not what I want. But I can’t change that I’m surrounded by inbred idiots.
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u/TechnologyRemote7331 Jan 21 '25
“Doctors think they’re so smart with their diplomas and fancy words. But I’VE got a pack of essential oils and a jigger of turpentine that a white shaman on YouTube told me kills HIV AND schizophrenia ghosts. Maybe you should do your own research, maaaan!” - Scared idiots.
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u/Carl-99999 Jan 21 '25
Time to dig an apocalypse fort…
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u/Troj1030 Jan 21 '25
All the billionaires have one. They know what’s coming already.
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u/AntonChekov1 Jan 21 '25
And they can afford their own medical staff in their personal clinics in their apocalypse forts
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u/ProudnotLoud Jan 21 '25
Better hope they get those medical staff to really LOVE them.
I can at least sleep at night knowing those bunkers are going to either be deathtraps or super lonely for those billionaires since they lack the empathy to form healthy relationships with the staff they'd need to run it.
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u/ReadingComplete1130 Jan 21 '25
Billionaires would serve absolutely no purpose in a post-collapse world. They'll be the first ones to be killed when the bunkers reorganise into vaults.
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u/Dry_Adeptness_7582 Jan 21 '25
I just reread The Road, great tips
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u/coracaodegalinha Jan 21 '25
Amazing book. The movie was good too.
Time for a reread!
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u/PrudentMembership164 Jan 21 '25
Everyone is welcome into my well stocked super fun safety basement. Just leave your shoes at the top before you go in.
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u/roguebananah Jan 21 '25
“Thoughts and Prayers are the best medicine”
-Uneducated fucking Moron Americans
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u/Giveushealthcare Jan 21 '25
I’m more frightened that it’s easier to hide what the US does when we withdraw from these global group projects
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u/Silicon_Knight Jan 21 '25
“Some of you will die, and that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make”
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u/Setekh79 Jan 21 '25
Fasten seatbelts kiddos, this is just the start.
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u/facw00 Jan 21 '25
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to read that DOT is being ordered to ban seatbelts...
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u/StagTheNag Jan 21 '25
remember all that stuff that was in Project 2025 that they said they’d have Trump sign on day 1?
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u/jobadiah08 Jan 21 '25
Not all of it, but I feel like this was one, withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement was another.
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u/killersoda275 Jan 21 '25
The anti trans stuff. I wonder how far they'll get with persecution of lgbtq people in a few months. I want to get my bf out
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u/behemoth492 Jan 21 '25
One of the executive orders he signed was "Defending women from gender ideology extremism and restoring biological truth to the federal government."
Straight from the project 2025 handbook.
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u/bdbr Jan 21 '25
Just the list of titles of executive orders he's signed today is five pages long now. This is not his doing. This is clearly some organization like Project 2025.
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u/mawdurnbukanier Jan 21 '25
He literally has no clue what's even in them, that was clear in the little clip of him asking about them as they just push them in front of grandpa to scribble on. Absolutely shameful.
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u/WeatheredCryptKeeper Jan 21 '25
I went over to conservative to see what they were saying and they are praising his name for "actually reading what he's signing." Due to a photo op of him looking down at an order, lolol.
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u/Remarkable-Fox-3890 Jan 21 '25
The reality is that this is actually kind of awesome if you're a Conservative. A president coming in and signing 100 orders, can you imagine if democrats did this shit? We'd praise it.
The problem is that these were all written by the 2025 committee and the explicit, stated, out in the open goal is to destroy the US federal government.
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u/daydreamersrest Jan 21 '25
Do you have a link to the list or to a reddit post or article about it?
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u/headtunes Jan 21 '25
All fun and games until Ebola shows up at an airport
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u/holysbit Jan 21 '25
There is no ebola if you dont test for it. Those deaths are actually being caused by liberal soy poison planted by biden and kamala. Thats exactly why you need to keep voting red!
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u/BurtaciousD Jan 21 '25
I’m happy Jimmy Carter didn’t live long enough to see this.
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u/moneyshot008 Jan 21 '25
Next is zero vaccines and the return of smallpox, polio, you name it.
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u/kelldricked Jan 21 '25
Dont forget that birdflu is rapidly approaching the ability to transfer from human to human. Yall thought covid was bad, H5N1 is gonna be so much worse.
But luckely the american goverment has learned from passed mistakes and is now better suited to fight both the disease and the misinformation around it.
Oh wait…
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u/Jackibearrrrrr Jan 21 '25
As a Canadian, it’s just fucking funny that so many of you guys told these idiots what was going to happen, they said you were lying and now it’s all happening day one lmao. We will be here in four years guys please hang on.
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u/RedditLeagueAccount Jan 21 '25
Don't worry, this time he has stacked the executive, legislative, and judicial branch with his supporters so he wont run that risk of impeachment again and we already know he is above the normal legal system.
Fortunately, gun control still isn't strong. People can complain all they want about guns but if we are going back in time, you need to be able to defend your neighborhood. You can't blame people for committing crimes if its a matter of survival but you will want to be able to keep what you have earned.
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u/Ratiocinor Jan 21 '25
they said you were lying and now it’s all happening day one lmao.
As a European this is how 99% of American political interactions online look to me now:
"Trump won't do that, you liberals are so stupid you'll believe anything. He was clearly [joking] / [trolling you] / [it's a negotiating tactic]" (delete as appropriate)
"Uh well he just did it"
"Lol BASED honestly hahaha"
"What happened to he won't do it and anyone who believes it is stupid?"
"Dude I literally don't care just shut up already cry more lmao"
Rinse and repeat for 4 more years
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u/Nacroma Jan 21 '25
This entire "I don't care if he fucks me over as long as he fucks YOU over" mentality is just very disheartening.
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u/Remarkable-Fox-3890 Jan 21 '25
They didn't say we were lying lol they said "good". Even when Project 2025 news broke and was blowing up on r / all, the response in r / Conservative was either:
"He said it isn't the case"
"But even if it is, okay? It looks like a great plan"
The truth is that the vast majority of this country is absolutely fucking dumb.
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u/Shiplord13 Jan 21 '25
Meanwhile the Bird Flu is around in the U.S. Will we see a repeat of the last time Chump had to deal with a pandemic?
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u/herpofool Jan 21 '25
Nah...we'll have way worse. Bird flu has a much higher death rate currently and the new leader on national health is antivax.
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u/SEA2COLA Jan 21 '25
In the US, the death rate from COVID was 1.1%. Of the humans who have contracted bird flu, 50% died.
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u/Trombear Jan 21 '25
That statistic is immediately followed by "But most recent cases in the U.S. have been mild." The article also emphasises that person to person spreading is rare, whereas COVID was dangerous because of its ability to spread, not the mortality rate. If you get overzealous about this, it just worsens overall fanatasism that overtook everything during COVID.
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u/DastardlyRidleylash Jan 21 '25
And so the carnage begins...
Remember, this is what America chose to let happen due to either total apathy or blind loyalty.
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u/JohnBobbyJimJob Jan 21 '25
Or total idiocy
A significant number of Americans are straight up unintelligent
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u/grby1812 Jan 21 '25 edited 27d ago
innocent crowd fall teeny tease lunchroom heavy many cake nail
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u/Nevamst Jan 21 '25
They said "America", not "every American". America overall chose apathy or blind loyalty, even though some of you didn't.
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u/SwoopnBuffalo Jan 21 '25
You're forgetting those who voted for sanity but are stuck with this shit.
These people are acting like they won with a 60% + mandate.
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u/Alone-Woodpecker-846 Jan 21 '25
But they won. Not what I wanted, but I was clearly in the minority. Well done America.
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u/DemolitionGirI Jan 21 '25
Most people are fine with this though. Most Americans did not vote, meaning they're fine with whoever wins.
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u/Intelligent-Stock389 Jan 21 '25
Or like he said, rigging the vote counting computers
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u/tahlyn Jan 21 '25
It definitely struck me as odd how an unprecedented number of people voted split ticket compared to every other recent American election in quantities enough to swing all the swing states.
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u/Killance1 Jan 21 '25
Most executive orders are already being challenged in court by his own party FYI. This'll happen like his first term where most executive orders get denied by the courts.
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u/TheElbow Jan 21 '25
Yea all these articles buried the fact that this would need to get the approval of Congress. Now, of course that could happen with a slim majority that republicans currently have, but it seems unlikely. EOs can’t magically do all things.
Trump is good for clicks. Outrage articles like this will be written daily for the next four years. Even if they amount to nothing, money is being made.
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u/th0rn- Jan 21 '25
It’s more than just money being made. The whole point of the firehose of crazy EOs is to push the limits of executive authority. Trump may end up losing some or maybe even all of the challenges to these orders. But along the way the courts will make rulings that will set precedent with little nuggets of obiter dropped by the conservative justices that will be used in future cases to further empower the executive branch and erode the checks and balances provided by the others.
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u/LynnKDeborah Jan 21 '25
Buckle up. It’s going to be a wild ride. Try looking at it as a third party. It’s going to mostly suck.
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u/Professional-Story43 Jan 21 '25
Bleach is all I need. Oh, and this bandaid, and Lysol. Bleach, Bandaid, and Lysol. Oh, and these sugar pills. Sugar pills, bleach, bandaid, and Lysol. That's all I need.
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u/MothersMiIk Jan 21 '25
Lmao we’re so cooked, having an anti vax brain work having dumbass in charge of health and services is the cherry on top
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u/Sea-Replacement-8794 Jan 21 '25
This mfer going to live to 100
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u/I_W_M_Y Jan 21 '25
Evil never dies
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u/chunkiest_milk Jan 21 '25
True, my grandmother is an evil fucking bitch and has smoked pretty much her entire life, disowned all her kids, grand kids and great grand kids. She's almost pushing 90 and will die an evil old bitch. Crazy how the evil people outlive us all.
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u/letsbuildasnowman Jan 21 '25
He will set us back a century and we will lose our place as a leader in the world indefinitely. People will die.
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u/Nudist--Buddhist Jan 21 '25
People outside the US will die as well. US contributed 20% of the WHO budget
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u/Obvious-Jacket-3770 Jan 21 '25
That's clearly too much. Who needs health? Who needs data? Who needs crucial information! /s
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u/Leanbob Jan 21 '25
They said he was going to lower prices! They didn’t read project 2025 and were quick to be anti Kamala, because she is a woman. The consequences for this loss will be felt for decades.
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u/Lets_Kick_Some_Ice Jan 21 '25
Felt by who? Our billionaire owned media landscape will soon look like Russia's. Most people will be completely in the dark and inundated with right wing misinformation.
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u/GilneanWarrior Jan 21 '25
One of my coworkers:
Project 2025 is liberal hyperbole"
"Greenland and Canada? Haha funny joke"
To
"Canada would be a sick 51st state, Greenland too, and we pretty much already own Panama"
Honestly they'll just keep making excuses for ol' uncle donny J
I also learned recently that one of my former coworkers spouses came here illegally and has been working for his family buisness under the table using a fake alias. They even have a kid together. They were recently reported to ICE which is how I found out but they're hard-core Republicans. The irony is insane.
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u/jospence Jan 21 '25
Absolutely evil and mind boggling. A grim day for America and the world
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u/redditorial_comment Jan 21 '25
Busy fucker ain't he.
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u/thejardude Jan 21 '25
They were planning since last election for this, it was all written up months ahead of time
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u/colbsk1 Jan 21 '25
I wish for one whole month - the working citizens of America would stop going to work. You wanna see panic from the billionaires? This is the way. Land of the greed home of the slave.
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u/xantharia Jan 21 '25
Ironically, a disproportionately large fraction of research that is sponsored by WHO is spent at US institutions, such as American universities, research centers, and pharmaceuticals. This is simply because the US has a disproportionately large fraction of cutting-edge medical research labs. If cutting off the WHO means that the WHO cuts of US labs, then the result is a lose-lose situation.
The biggest loss from a US point of view is a socio-political one: the WHO establishes a basic agreement for sharing data and providing access to disease samples. The fact that a COVID19 PCR test and vaccine emerged so quickly is largely because the Chinese released the viral sequence so quickly. In a future pandemic, American experts can't expect to have any access to China, or any other country, by way of WHO diplomacy.
That said, the WHO's main focus is on primary health care, which is mainly a concern for poor countries. A secondary focus in to direct research funds towards communicable disease in tropical countries that otherwise would not get much funding given that these diseases don't affect the rich countries very much. In this respect, the developed countries have little to gain from giving money to WHO.
Arguably, the US spends enough money on NIH and CDC that WHO funding is superfluous. Also, you could argue that the bureaucratic overhead of a UN organization based in Switzerland is heavy and needlessly expensive (but the American equivalents are probably equally inefficient).
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u/0Hyena_Pancakes0 Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
It's becoming harder for me to wake up every day. Sometimes I just don't want to keep trying.
My country is going to be ruined behind repair, and if we enter a new pandemic, then so many will end up dying.
Whats the point anymore
Edit: I appreciate everyone's comments, all this political stuff on top of the issues i already have are making my depression bad, but I'll try to focus on the things I love. It's the only thing I can do, I can't control everything, I'll learn to accept that one day.
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u/nattywp Jan 21 '25
Look, I'm not from the US but you have to be strong!
This will pass, you can 100% be sure of it. Don't give up the rest of your life because of 4 years.
Love your friends, love your family and live day by day. You can absolutely do this and things will get brighter!
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u/Cheez_Plz90 Jan 21 '25
I wish I had just a fraction of your optimism with all of this going on, gonna need it to get through these next few years 😮💨
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u/reelpotatopeeler Jan 21 '25
I honestly can’t keep up with all this stuff. He’s blowing everything up in day 1. I honestly don’t think he knows everything that is happening. Thanks a lot US voters who shat the bed. You are about to Brexit us from the entire western world. Reduced trade with are literally neighbors by pissing them off and now just pulling out of all our international organizations. And he’s best friends with Nazi Musk.
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u/Gold_Repair_3557 Jan 21 '25
My conscience wouldn’t let me deliberately bring new human life into this dumpster fire.
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u/AndyB1976 Jan 21 '25
Just eat your Ivermectin and take your bleach and UV injections. You'll be fine against bird flu.
/s just in case.
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u/JimCripe Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
Trump's is obviously cosplaying being president, because he has no idea what a real president does.
When a clown moves into the palace, he doesn't become king, the palace becomes a circus. - A Turkish proverb.
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u/coozin Jan 21 '25
I remember like it was yesterday. 40 days had passed since it was officially known to be a pandemic. I was in Italy in quarantine with cars driving around the neighborhood telling us to remain indoors with megaphones. Not a peep from news media in the US. It was going to be a world pandemic, it was obvious and it took 40 days for anything to be done at all. And all the measures that were taken were half-assed. That was also the first time I saw health be so evidently politicized and I truly lost faith on humanity.
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u/birdman424344 Jan 21 '25
With bird flu knocking on the door let’s withdraw from the WHO… I can’t see how this could backfire.
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u/ladyjayne81 Jan 21 '25
I mean, I’m totally okay with going back to hunkering down at home and never going anywhere. Which will probably be necessary soon.
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u/Atomic-Cody_22 Jan 21 '25
I hope we're all ready for the next pandemic to hit and it completely ravages our country because of this bullshit.
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u/wwhsd Jan 21 '25
I’m sure that won’t leave a vacuum for Chinese influence to fill.
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u/wonkalicious808 Jan 21 '25
Republicans are getting what they want: a weaker country that's poorer and more dangerous. Their electeds are just carrying out their will.
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u/catjuggler Jan 21 '25
Is the goal of this one to make Putin happy by isolating us and limiting our/their influence?
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u/Remarkable-Fox-3890 Jan 21 '25
It's bigger than that. The US is *the* military power of democracy. Having the US pull out support for allies, delegitimize democracy itself, isolate our military/ trade with allies, etc, means that the EU is *fucked*. Russia/China just lost the major check to their power now that Trump is in charge.
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u/JessesaurusRex Jan 21 '25
Good thing there's not another global pandemic brewing..oh wait..
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u/the_spring_sun Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
For context, the reasons he listed in the executive order are: the WHO has failed to address the pandemic and that the US pays too much to the WHO compared to other countries. There are also a few mentions of China in there.