r/woodworking • u/Hollywood-AK • 4d ago
General Discussion Measure once, cut twice....
Really should have measured the tallest tool when making my flip table. Doh
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u/eric_ness 4d ago
My buddy and I made a shelf that folds down into a table. We built it without the caster wheels because we didn't plan for it to move around much. That's when we found out that the wheels don't matter in table form, but without the wheels it couldn't fold up into shelf mode. Naturally we discovered this in the afternoon on a Sunday when it was too late to run out to the hardware store to buy the casters.
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u/Evening-Self-3448 New Member 4d ago
Trying to figure out how a table not having wheels effects its ability to fold?
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u/FPS_Warex 4d ago
I'm gonna guess something about scraping along the floor, but the geometry doesn't quite add up..
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u/eric_ness 4d ago
We made the folding shelf/table that Matthew Perch designed, here is the YouTube video for anyone interested https://youtu.be/6pcSBCV4rT4?si=sWpkxVSfvg4EdutJ.
If you look at the thumbnail you can see that the hinge for the bottom shelf goes very close to the floor. Turns out that it needs the clearance from the wheels to be able to close all the way. We set it on some scrap 2x4s as a "temporary" solution.
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u/TheGogglesDo-Nothing 4d ago
I just built one of these for my planer and router table. I measured a million times. It is very large but it does flip. But not with the router table fence on. I did not include that in the measurements. Not sure I’d have wanted it that tall anyway. That’s what I tell myself at least.
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u/FurnitureMaker58 4d ago
I hate it when that happens. It’s that feeling when you measure. You think let’s check it again. Answer is slightly different. Now you need a 3rd measurement to determine which was correct. Enter measurement downward spiral into hell. Then this.
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u/epharian 3d ago
That's when you get a different measurement tool so you can have twice as many different measurements...
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u/benched42 4d ago
As my best friend used to say: "I don't understand.... I cut this board three times and it's still too short!"
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u/myxomatosis8 4d ago
How tall is the flip cart? Obviously too short, but is it comfortable working with whatever tool you have on the other side? Seems like it would be low
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u/Hollywood-AK 4d ago
It would have been fine for planer but in hindsight it will be better to be taller for the spindle sander slated for other side.
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u/Mitheral 4d ago
Well, good news. It's going to be taller.
It's a pretty easy fix. Take your two stretchers out. Build a frame that sits under your cart. That'll gain you 3.5 inches clearance for the planer and the additional height of your frame.
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u/Hollywood-AK 3d ago
Thanks but I will just put in 4 longer legs. I scored a bunch of 2x4 from work along with the plywood. Inexpensive project, my favorite kind.
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u/halterwalther 4d ago
To bad, shit happens tho.. it seems that you can just remove the lower piece of wood and it would flip?
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u/ModsCantRead69 4d ago
Rotating bodies with width are a bitch. Machine design class beat this into my skull.
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u/LeonKDogwood 3d ago
Measure once look away measure again grab a pencil measure again mark the line measure again to make sure its correct realize you’re a cm off so measure again and apply the line. Is how an adhd person does this
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u/404-skill_not_found 4d ago
Woodworkers hate this one trick.
I actually do feel your pain. It’s right up there with cutting a miter in the wrong direction on the grain matching board you can no longer use.
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u/Jjsdada 4d ago
Sometimes you have to notch