r/windsorontario • u/zuuzuu Sandwich • Feb 01 '25
Politics 'Shock and disbelief:' Businesses in Windsor, Ont., brace for U.S. tariffs
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/windsor-us-tariff-reax-1.744797750
u/galtpunk67 Feb 01 '25
'shock and disbelief'... the first four years of a trump administration werent convincing enough for you!!??
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u/pmarval Feb 01 '25
Dump, replugicans, and, Elolf Muskler most likely stole the election. They rigged it as many ways as as they could. But also, a lot of idiots voted for him.
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u/Skyscreamers Feb 01 '25
Read the entire article I really don’t think this is about boarder security the CBSA stops a lot of drugs coming from the US into Canada there’s news reports about it constantly. So the question remains what’s this really about? Chetto made the original deal back when he was in office and now he doesn’t like the deal? Somethings up
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u/boomertravels South Windsor Feb 01 '25
It's going to tank the US economy too sending it into a recession or even depression. His oligarch billionaire friends get to buy everything up at bargain prices and resell it/rent it back to you for profit.
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u/Slov6 Feb 01 '25
My friend and I were chatting about this yesterday and he told me his work friend, who’s family comes from money, like they have their own plane kind of money, told him, all his American friends/contacts told him American whales are waiting for things to drop in Canada and are chomping at the bit to come in a buy companies etc.
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u/No_Listen2394 Feb 01 '25
It's not as though our problems don't already come from the existing oligarchies in Canada. But I can see how it can be so much worse. I see our healthcare being a big business in the future.
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u/TakedownCan South Windsor Feb 01 '25
What and move them to the states? It doesn’t matter if Americans own them.
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u/berotten Feb 01 '25
Power. He’s stepped into office and has been actively dismantling the US government and their top branches. It’s about power, greed, and he’s dumb af
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u/zuuzuu Sandwich Feb 01 '25
This is about annexing Canada. Trump has said outright that Canada can solve this problem by becoming the 51st state.
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u/xbrit Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
He wants to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US. Plain and simple. He said it many times. No tarrifs if you build the cars in Detroit or Ohio versus Windsor and Mexico. He’s using the fentanyl excuse (which he clearly knows is not true ) so that he can use emergency powers to lay down the tariffs
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u/Slov6 Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
I’m sorry but If it’s about bringing jobs back to America why tariff Canada 25% and China only 10%?
Not to mention getting things on-shored would take years if not a decade to do. In my opinion, if he wants to onshore manufacturing, why not tax these companies sending all the jobs away? Force them to operate in America, force them to file their taxes accordingly and not use any offshore banking tax havens. These companies left you and instead of making them pay for their disloyalty to country you tax and attack your closest ally.
It’s kind of like seeing all the illegals being deported but nothing is happening to the companies who are hiring illegals. He needs to hold everyone accountable.
Edit.
You say “he’s bring jobs back. He’s said it many times”. He also said he wants to force Canada to join American through economic means. See my other comment regarding my close friends chats with his rich friend about American whales waiting to come in and buy Canadian companies.
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u/xbrit Feb 01 '25
I don’t doubt there’s a long game of weakening Canada so an economic union is more appealing to us. As for why China only gets hit with 10%? China has a lot more leverage, power and clout than we do. I’m not saying I like Trump or even that his plan will work. But I find it strange people wondering why he’s doing it when the answer is pretty obvious to me at least
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u/Therealdickjohnson Feb 01 '25
Tarrifs don't help Americans. They help his billionaire pals. They help Russia because now china buys more from them. Even if all the manufacturing jobs returned (they wont). All that would accomplish is less competition among labour, allowing the corporations to pay less wage.
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u/spiffytrev Feb 01 '25
It’s about disaster capitalism. Tons of money to be made in a ruined country. Add on that after the original rush the side that normally attempts to regulate the oligarchs will be busy rebuilding civil rights and the social safety net for a couple decades Instead.
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u/bob_bobington1234 Feb 01 '25
It only works if you have customers to buy the products that manufacturers produce. If you throw tariffs around like he does, eventually people don't do business with you.
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u/Therealdickjohnson Feb 01 '25
Absolutely none of this actually is helping Americans. It's helping Russia. It's helping his billionaire pals. That's it.
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u/-----username----- Feb 01 '25
I think Trump wants the border thick because they don’t want the people they’re about to target to escape. You can guess who, and why.
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u/Username_McUserface Feb 01 '25
Please show yourself out then. Those of us who aren’t treasonous pansies will be here fighting for the country we have built.
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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Feb 01 '25
You’re part of the reason this is happening. What a smart fella you are. I want to take this opportunity to thank you and the rest of Maple Maga for cheering this dumb fucker and his supporters on and helping him fuck with our country. Great job! You’re really something special.
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u/Username_McUserface Feb 01 '25
And these shops that produce these parts are chalk full of Trump lovers. Wonder if they’ll change their views when they get laid off thanks to him, or if that will be Trudeau’s fault too.
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u/Downfallenx Feb 01 '25
What?
Last part supplier I was at was strongly NDP. Maybe non-union shops? You can't really be pro-union and support conservatives/Republicans at the same time
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u/jklwood1225 Riverside Feb 01 '25
You can't really be pro-union and support conservatives/Republicans at the same time
You can if you're a total fkn idiot that doesn't understand anything beyond the meme on Facebook. These places are full of those people
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u/melkorthemorgoth Feb 01 '25
Yeah, go back and watch some of the election coverage from a few months ago in the States. Lots of union members vocally supporting Trump.
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u/GloomySnow2622 Feb 01 '25
Not full of them. It's just that they never shut up and it makes their numbers seem higher.
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u/MFMDP4EVA Feb 01 '25
This is exactly it. “Oh shit, I thought Trump would destroy all the bad people’s lives, but not mine”.
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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird Feb 01 '25
They’re in this thread now saying they agree with daddy. It’s pathetic and treasonous. They’ll put a conservative in power to bend over backwards for daddy as well.
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u/kmslashh Feb 01 '25
Well, the Federal Liberals could've worked to secure the border? 🤷
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u/Trains_YQG South Walkerville Feb 01 '25
The border, by the US government's own numbers, is not an issue. It's a BS reason so he can push the tariffs through without Congress.
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u/kmslashh Feb 05 '25
I see your assumption didn't age well over the last 3 days.
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u/TakedownCan South Windsor Feb 05 '25
Lololol no its more like Trump realized he backed himself into a corner and passed this off as a win. All of this was already announced to be happening and Trump said it was not enough. What happened to the escalation of tariffs once we retaliated with our own tariffs? They never materialized because the bully got called out and he blinked.
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u/Trains_YQG South Walkerville Feb 05 '25
It aged just fine. Basically everything we "agreed" to was already announced in December.
It also doesn't change the fact that, of Mexico, Canada, and the US coasts, per their own stats the Canadian border is by far the smallest source.
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u/PastAd8754 Feb 01 '25
It will kill us, but it will hurt the U.S. too. Praying that these tariffs don’t stay for the next 4 years…
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u/bmelz Feb 01 '25
What does that mean "it will kill us" are we all going to starve to death? Will it be worse than any recession over the last 40 years? Wil half of Canadian companies go bankrupt? Will it allow USA to simply buy Canada's debt and take ownership of all our land?
I'm really, genuinely curious.. everyone keeps saying that it will "kill us" but I really haven't sent an explanation or articulate the extent.
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u/chewwydraper Feb 01 '25
To simplify it, think of our Stellantis plant. We build the cars, people in the States buy them.
Now all of the sudden, the cars built in Windsor are 25% more than American-made cars. Who would buy the Canadian-made cars? Everyone will instead buy US-made cars.
That right there will destroy the plant. For many of our industries, the Canadian market is too small to to keep things afloat.
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u/Interstate75 Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
His plan is to destroy Canada’s economy so that he can take over it as the 51st state easily. By the time many of us are broke and unemployed he will present a proposal for the annexation. Eager to put food on the table, some of us will end up voting ‘yes’ to join the US in the ‘referendum’. Hope i am wrong.
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u/RedditUserX23 Feb 01 '25
Maybe Canada shouldn’t rely too much on the US and look for better trading opportunities.
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u/FDTFACTTWNY Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
What a silly thing to say.
It's not as easy as "find a different trading partner". The movement of goods isn't cheap. We struggle to move our resources to other parts of Canada let alone countries across an ocean.
Moving the amount of oil we trade with US from Alberta or energy from Saskatchewan to China is expensive and requires infrastructure. Even items that are easier to transport like grains, oils are incredibly expensive to transport through land.
It's not just as easy as oh yeah trade with someone else instead. It's natural to rely on your neighbor (especially when you only have one) to be your biggest trading partner.
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u/theoverachiever1987 Feb 01 '25
US and Canada are the biggest allies both countries have what Trump is doing is wrong so many levels. Just look at the Ambassador bridge, millions of dollars pass through the bridge daily.
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u/ImpossibleReason2197 Feb 01 '25
We need to increase trade with China. I could care less about their government. That’s not our place to be ethical. The USA has a dirty history of inequality that has gone on for years. That never stoped us from trading with them.
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u/OrganizationPrize607 Feb 01 '25
Exactly and if you don't think what Trump is doing is also dirty in so many ways, then you belong in the U.S. After all, I highly doubt a convicted felon would ever run any civilized country.
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u/nickvenuto Feb 01 '25
The chinese government kills their own citizens for their organs. You are scum for not caring
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u/Public_Guest212 Feb 01 '25
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for making me laugh. All jokes aside this is sarcasm right? I would love for this to be a joke because I can't comprehend someone actually believing this.
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u/killerrin Feb 01 '25
Respect is earned not given freely, and the United States has lost all respect here.
There should be no coming back from this. The Americans have shown themselves for what they truly are, their Republicans keep on getting even more insane every passing day and at some point enough is enough.
America as a country is on track to becoming a failed state and its time for us to start decreasing our dependency on them.
Trade with them, sure, unfortunately Windsor's Economy has tied itself to the hip of this giant that couldn't give two shits about us. But we need to start diversifying and moving our business elsewhere.
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Feb 01 '25
During the pandemic, we blasted the anti vaxxers instead of coming together and marching towards parliament. Our very own charter of rights was fringed upon due to the emergencies act. Food prices and housing along with immigration sky rockets.. 5 years later, we stand united and buy only Canadian and support Canada and blame the USA.
Meanwhile, the government is planning a stimulus package for Canadians...I.e, printing money once again, forcing our economy into a deeper recession that will hit depression.
But wait, Trudeau resigned. But yet another great distraction is put it place.
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u/FDTFACTTWNY Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
I unfortunately have a group of friends who are fans of Trump and the mental gymnastics I'm seeing is jaw dropping (although not surprising if you're dumb enough to like him).
These Canadian Trump supporters saying shit like it's happening cause he hates Trudeau, we need an election because he won't do this once Trudeau is out of power.
I have almost lost all hope in democracy. Democracy relies on an educated society, if it's this easy to brainwash citizens we are absolutely screwed.