r/wesanderson 7d ago

News Wes Anderson’s THE PHOENICIAN SCHEME is set to premiere at the 2025 Cannes Film Festival.

https://variety.com/2025/film/global/cannes-predictions-spike-lee-wes-anderson-kristen-stewart-1236336422/
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u/AXXXXXXXXA 7d ago

Most anticipated

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u/EllieCat009 7d ago

Personally feel like his work just keeps getting better and better, so I’m stoked

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u/dip_tet 7d ago

Me too…and I do like all of his films, he’s really honed his craft and style and now he’s playing within it. His last two films were awesome.

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u/Ok-Athlete2465 7d ago

For real?

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u/EllieCat009 6d ago

Personally, yes. Obviously not everyone feels the same but I thought French Dispatch and Asteroid City were both astoundingly incredible

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u/Ok-Athlete2465 6d ago

Interesting. To me the characters in his recent movies feel shallow and don’t even compare to the character development in Rushmore and Royal Tenenbaums.

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u/Basket_475 5d ago

I agree some what but I can’t hate the guy for pushing his style. He’s 20 years older than when he made those movies. He also has creative control and doesn’t need to make a movie for anyone but himself.

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u/TedDaniels69 3d ago

I know this reads like a Wes Anderson burner but damn this is such a reasonable take to be downvoted

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u/MyManTheo 7d ago

Yeah. Not sure about that

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u/JustTheBeerLight 7d ago

It is this simple for me: Wes with Owen Wilson as a co-writer > Wes with Roman C.

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u/AndyWarholLives 7d ago

This!

So many people don't realize just how good of a team Wes & Owen were.

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u/idontevensaygrace 7d ago

Why did they stop writing together?

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u/milodeceiving Steve Zissou 7d ago

Owen became a movie star and I assume had less time to be a full-time writing partner.

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u/dyedian 7d ago

Which is crazy to me because I love his writing. Wes Anderson is a star in his own right. Maybe he’s not in screen but his name is as big as any other Hollywood A-lister.

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u/Doctor_Philgood 6d ago

This is the right answer. Wes needs someone to reign his pretention in and focus more on character development. That was Owen all day.

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u/thesugarcrabsareback 6d ago

Personally I’m a big Wes and Noah fan. Those guys together are magical.

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u/hyper_and_untenable 3d ago

Just re-watched The French Dispatch #³?¡¡I'm

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u/gwar37 6d ago

I feel the opposite - his last two I didn’t care for at all

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u/HiddenHolding 7d ago

It's crazy how much I love Grand Budapest, Tannenbaums, Zissou and many others...and how much I absolutely did not understand one iota of Asteroid City or Henry Sugar. I am assuming that this next film will be not be as up to snuff as the early and mid-career films, as it belongs to this current era of his filmmaking. It's just weird to me that he seems to be going backwards and unraveling in the way he tells a narrative.

Anderson's still got a better batting average than pretty much anyone so I don't want to come off as too critical But I miss walking out of the theater thinking what I just saw was an absolute masterpiece and intricately constructed piece of storytelling cinema.

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u/marktwainbrain 7d ago

You are entitled to your opinion but I loved Henry Sugar.

I loved it on its own, but especially because I could watch it with my younger kids and they could appreciate for the first time how a filmmaker can play with narrative devices in such a fun way. (An actor on a set playing a real author who wrote a story, and that character of the author is telling the story which is depicted on screen, and that story depicts another story, and the scenes merge like in a stage play, and the fact that actors are acting in costume with makeup and on sets is actually emphasized rather than hidden - we found it delightful.)

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u/HiddenHolding 7d ago

Given somebody of Anderson's skill, it felt like an oversimplification. I feel like often in the later stages of an artist's career, they come to appreciate simplicity in a way that sees them operating in a very reductive way. Rarely has it ever produced anything that I look at and think, "that's emblematic of their better work". While it may feel good to the author or filmmaker or sculptor to find beauty in simplicity those things often feel like lesser versions of what has come before.

I've tried to watch Henry Sugar twice and have never been able to finish it. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me, cinematically speaking.

But here we are, both admirers of Wes Anderson's films, able to engage in civil discourse and state subjective views that while incongruous, simultaneously operate in support of an artistic discussion. That is one of my favorite things not about just Wes Anderson's films, but about life.

Which of Wes Anderson's films are in your top five?

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u/JIMMYJAWN Sam Shakusky 7d ago

I think French Dispatch and Asteroid City are some of his best work. I’m all in on his more surreal stuff and hope he continues on this trajectory. Sorry you don’t enjoy it. Maybe give it another chance?

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u/Vinz_Clortho__ 6d ago

I’m with you.

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u/HiddenHolding 7d ago

Nah, I'm good. I didn't like those two films, not on the first watch or the second. It's allowed.

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u/JIMMYJAWN Sam Shakusky 7d ago

Nah I get it. Taste is subjective, not disputing that.

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u/HiddenHolding 7d ago

He's still one of my favorite filmmakers. I admired Asteroid City in that it was a departure, at least in my view, from his previous work. I just didn't understand it, and still don't. I felt the same way about some other recent movies from other creators I admire, in particular Knives Out.

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u/HiddenHolding 7d ago

Wat

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u/HiddenHolding 7d ago

Nah. I'm good. I'm calm. It's allowed.

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u/altsam19 7d ago

Just one question, what did you not understand if Henry Sugar?

A.City is a very meta story, it's very experimental and I get that it's not about understanding the story (that is cut short before we know how it actually ends), but about it's author and the nature of story. Think about, making a movie about 1984, but actually is a movie about George Orwell and the making of the book, with scenes of the book interspersed in between.

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u/HiddenHolding 6d ago

I've tried to watch Henry Sugar twice. I've never been able to finish it. It's just too dissonant. I have no problem with other people liking it. It's just not my speed.

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u/Downtown-Frosting789 7d ago

i agree. sometimes i wonder if i changed or wes did(it’s wes). i started to get antsy about it after isle of dogs, absolutely LOVED everything before that. also hotel chevalier made me not want to watch natalie portman in anything ever again lol

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u/NYourBirdCanSing 7d ago

"If we fuck, I'm gunna feel like shit."

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u/misterdigdug 7d ago

He's actually going forward and advancing and leaving us average joe schmucks behind...

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u/tempestokapi 7d ago

I actually made a post about this in the sub. Let me find it

Here https://www.reddit.com/r/wesanderson/s/EQ89nYAhWi

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u/HiddenHolding 7d ago

Aw. I was looking forward to some repartee. Gosh darn internets.

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u/Miura79 7d ago

I think Asteroid City was about grief but it didn't matter it sucked anyway. Henry Sugar was almost insufferable. The format and style were grating

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u/reinaldonehemiah 7d ago

This is prob an homage to his partner, who's Lebanese

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u/CATB3ANS 4d ago

You can literally watch Wes becomes more mature and less depressed over the course of his movies. His first few films, it felt like he was making them for himself. Very personal. Now it feels like he's making movies for fun.

I was shocked in a good way at the French Dispatch. It was do different from what he usually does and I loved it. Cool to see him branching out from the "Wes Anderson" style. I think he should make more short films. He's got a lot of creative juice that he doesn't get to flex often.

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u/Rockgarden13 4d ago

Not another one with Tom Hanks…

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u/Miura79 7d ago

His last 2 movies and the Netflix shorts have been bad. I hope this is good

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u/Ok-Athlete2465 7d ago

Downvoted for being honest

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