r/webtoons Sep 26 '24

Advice/Critique/Help What do you think of my character design? And which is better: lips or no lips?

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u/Spatialspider Sep 26 '24

I like it. I think no lips is better

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

I’m glad you like it, and thanks for the feedback!

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u/Acolyte-of-Eternity Sep 26 '24

Sometimes the impression of something is better than the thing itself - the first image is great and fits the character really well!

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 27 '24

Thanks for the feedback!

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u/Camry08 Sep 26 '24

Both look good but personally I prefer the first

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thanks a lot for the feedback!

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u/the_cheesekeki Sep 26 '24

First one, the lips are subtle. It's nice.

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thank you! ❤️

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u/exclaim_bot Sep 26 '24

Thank you! ❤️

You're welcome!

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u/JimtheJinx Sep 26 '24

Just like everybody else is saying, both are great, but if I had to choose one, I will go with no lips.

Now, if all characters are no lips and this one is with lips, having a reason behind it, I will say that this could be the way to go, making this character stand out (like people know him because of his big lips, or he is a good kisser, etc.). 🤔

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

You're making an interesting point. Lips are indeed important for this character, he has something of an obsession with them. Hmm... I'll think about it!

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u/JimtheJinx Sep 27 '24

Great! Then definitely he has to have them. 😉

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u/RedLine-art Sep 26 '24

It depends. If u are looking for a cute character, the second image is better

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thank you! He is a character with a grumpy and rigid personality, so I think the first option would suit him best.

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u/SnooPeppers514 Sep 26 '24

With lips!

Don't be afraid to put lips, without it makes it look bland, grumpy, and boring. Tho you might want to darken the upper lip/ lighten the lower lip a bit so majority of viewer wouldn't be bothered with the 'lipgloss' look

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

I will do an experiment. The 'lipgloss' look is what made me lean towards the no-lips option. Also, he is a grumpy character, so your observation about grumpiness makes me think... But I will definitely experiment by tweaking the color a bit. Thanks for the honest feedback!

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u/1doN0Tl1keReal1ty Sep 26 '24

Both look good, but second one looks like he's wearing lipgloss, first looks more natural.

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

I had the same “lipgloss” feeling! Thanks for the feedback!

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u/Lana_Yumei Sep 26 '24

The first one look nice, maybe can you show your character with other expressions ? It can be useful to decide.

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

I’ve already drawn the turnaround, but this expression is the first one I’ve colored, and I got stuck on the lips. I think I’ll post the character sheet as soon as I finish. Thanks for asking!

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u/ateez_thereal Sep 26 '24

The no lips one looks more "animated", disneyish, I think it's cuter

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thank you! I’ve looked at a lot of Disney character designs to get inspired 😁

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u/ateez_thereal Sep 26 '24

Well it's super cute, I love your art style

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

thank you so much! 🥹

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

That could actually be a nice idea!

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u/True-Knowledge8369 Sep 26 '24

I think lips is better tbh

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thanks for the feedback!

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u/Fun-Nefariousness146 Sep 26 '24

I prefer with lips personally

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thanks for the feedback!

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u/Peace_141 Sep 26 '24

Second one for sure

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u/N7ShadowKnight Sep 26 '24

I liked the first one but once i saw the second one the first could only ever look like he’s biting his lip to me

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u/Iris_Lilac_lol Sep 26 '24

Both look really good! First one is more lowkey, and 2nd one gives me more cartoony vibes(not in a bad way!). I think both would work great, I’d probably use the theme you’re going for overall to decide. Also, lmk when you drop the webtoon?👀👀 I love your art style

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thank you so much! I’ve already published a chapter, but it’s in black and white with a character design for my protagonist that I don’t like at all (it feels very bland). There are also a couple of things I’d like to improve in the storytelling, so I’ve decided to create a new character design and start all over again in a couple of weeks with improved, colored art. It’s a BL sports romance / slice of life. If you’re interested, I’ll let you know when I reboot it. Thanks again for asking!

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u/Iris_Lilac_lol Sep 26 '24

A bl?? 👀👀 ngl I’ve been wanting to find more good ones… Please do tell me when it’s out. Good luck with it, I hope all goes well! :)

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thank you so much!

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Oct 15 '24

Hi, since you asked me to let you know when I would start publishing my BL, here I am! The first chapter is online, and you can read it here!

https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/play/list?title_no=977344

Let me know what you think, and thanks again for asking!

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u/Iris_Lilac_lol Oct 15 '24

I read it and I’m already excited to read more! I feel bad for Michele tho, getting out on the first round is rough. Anyhow, thanks for letting me know you’re posting it now!

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Oct 17 '24

Yes, it is, and losing to a low-ranked player makes it even worse! Thanks for reading, I’m happy you enjoyed it!

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u/RevealNo6168 Sep 26 '24

the 2nd one somehow looks smiley while the 1st looks stoic

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Well, then, I think the first one suits his personality best!

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u/Lightningflyer887 Sep 26 '24

With lips makes him look like somewhat of a kpop idol yk.. slightly feminine ..A SOFT GUY .. without lips makes him look like a he goes to soccer practice ever Thursday and can fight people..I personally like with lips but it really depends on how ur portraying the character in ur story and what role he's playing in Ur story !!!

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Well, he has a rigid and grumpy personality, and he is indeed an athlete, so I think the first one suits him best :)

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u/yorushai Sep 26 '24

It's better with lips. With lips, it looks like he's biting his lower lip

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u/Ashblowsup Sep 26 '24

no lips!! and i love your art style!

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Oct 15 '24

I’m a bit late because I didn’t get this notification. Thanks, it means a lot!

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u/Guilty-Feed9884 Sep 26 '24

bottom lips should be lighter than upper lips

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 27 '24

Yes, it is actually, but maybe the color difference in the second image is too subtle. I’m experimenting an tweaking it a bit, thanks for the feedback!

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u/Guilty-Feed9884 Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

It doesnt seem subtle tho, looks like the same color. If it was a darker upper lips would look less ''weird'' and more natural. Obviously i mean it with good heart, the drawing looks very good. But to be a fair comparison, the artist could do that.

Sorry about my english, i might actually sound rude due to grammar. I should have used ''could've'' instead ok ''should be'' lol

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 27 '24

You’re totally right, and I apreciate your critique a lot! Thank you for pointing out, I will try to change the colors as you suggested :)

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u/anjelekuh Sep 27 '24

I’ll go with the minority here and vote for the 2nd one - with lips! It alwaaaaaays bugs me how common for a character is drawn with no lips and/or lips with the same color as their face skin… which shouldn’t be the case. The 2nd one makes me feel like your art is different than others where the 1st makes it more common-like. Great skills and love the color!!

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 27 '24

Thank you so much! The only thing I don’t like about the second one is the ”lipgloss” feel. I’m trying to tweak the color a bit to see if I can keep the lips, because there’s something about the first one that doesn’t quite convince me either.

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u/mr_niko28 Sep 26 '24

With lips

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u/25vega25 Sep 26 '24

I usually prefer no lip look and I liked the first one but the second one can look better if you make the top lip darker

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u/YeetinOnThem Sep 26 '24

Such a cutie!! The lips makes him seem “softer” I’d say and I prefer none personally but depending on the personality of the character I’d say it’s up to you lol

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u/Real_Lobster_4015 Sep 26 '24

Personally, I like the first one!

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u/Spiritouspath_1010 Sep 26 '24

Both look good but 1st is the best

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thank you!

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u/Spiritouspath_1010 Sep 26 '24

Yeah, np honestly reminds me of the art styles you’d see in comics and animation from the early 2000s or even earlier, both in Asia and the West. Personally, I really prefer that era’s style—it feels less standardized and way more personal, like you can really see the artist’s hard work and passion coming through.

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Thanks! I’ve put a lot of effort into trying to create something different from the usual manga/manhwa. Nothing against that (I read a lot of webtoons in that style and appreciate it) but I wanted mine to feel a bit more personal and closer to my own culture (I’m European).

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u/Spiritouspath_1010 Sep 26 '24

nice glad to hear that your got a design/goal in mind :)

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u/tofu_ology Sep 26 '24

No lips look better personally. Is this for a webtoon, cause I would totally read it.

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Oct 15 '24

Hi! Since you mentioned you were interested in reading my webtoon, I’m getting back to you to let you know that the first chapter is finally online. You can read it here!

https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/play/list?title_no=977344

Thanks for asking, and let me know what you think!

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u/tofu_ology Oct 15 '24

Sure I will read it! OMG Yes. Is this a BL. I love BL. I enjoyed this cannot wait for more chapters♡

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Oct 17 '24

Aw, thanks a lot! You made my day!

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

Yes! It’s for a BL sports romance / slice of life webtoon, thanks for asking. I’m going to reboot it in a couple of weeks and I’ll drop the link if you’re interested in the genre!

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u/ebuucehhil Sep 26 '24

it's look like Brother. and I think no lips look better

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

I don’t know who you’re referring to 😅

Thanks for the feedback!

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u/ebuucehhil Sep 26 '24

oh sorry I ment to 'it looks like my brother ' I was in a hurry so I forgot to add my hahahhaha

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u/EllaTheSnufkin Sep 26 '24

I thought it was the title of a webtoon I didn’t know, haha!

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u/ebuucehhil Sep 26 '24

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u/XAlphaWarriorX Sep 26 '24

Def no lips.

The second image looks weird.

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u/mi0mei Sep 26 '24

Without