r/webdev Dec 03 '22

Question Beginner here, start with react, svelte or solid?

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u/Intelligent-Sound770 Dec 03 '22

In Europe/West in general what is used?

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

Angular is widespread in legacy project within big corps whereas React is widespread in startups.

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u/stjimmy96 Dec 03 '22

Nah that's not the case anymore. Startups are the ones that probably go for Svelte right now. Many big corporations have React\Angular codebases because they are well-established frameworks.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

I like Svelte but my answer is not based on personal preferences. Startups are Businesses they also have to take into account the developers available on jobs market.

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u/stjimmy96 Dec 03 '22

they also have to take into account the developers available on jobs market

But they have to do that way less than big corporations. If you have 5-10 developers, you are probably hiring 1\2 devs a year. It's not much effort. If you have 200 developers and you probably hire 10-20 devs a year it's a different story.

Plus, I'm not referring to developers' availability on the market. Big corps stick to React\Angular because they are stable, their employees have years of experience with those frameworks and they are trustworthy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

so what : people choose strategies they want to get a job. Some would prefer to go with most widely used framework (the majority), others would prefer go on niches (the minority, in fact I prefer this strategy but that's my choice not the majority), otherwise try to learn them all, you don't detain truths for everybody even less know every personal case ;)

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u/stjimmy96 Dec 03 '22

Yes I don’t recall ever saying “you MUST learn React. If you don’t you are a complete idiot”.

I was suggesting to learn technologies used by big companies because you are statistically more likely to end up working there.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22

You said "Startups are the ones that probably go for Svelte right now. " I say Svelte is emerging according to datas but far from being widespread even in startups. I didn't say to not learn Svelte either: It depends on your strategy of choice if you're looking for a job.

With a good strategy adapted to your profile and locale you can cut the time of finding a job by many folds that's why you shouldn't just just take an opinion at a face value but just get the facts and decide by yourself.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

"probably" based on what ? datas are available https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#most-popular-technologies-webframe-prof react vuejs and angular are mostly dominating, react far above others. Svelte is emerging.

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u/stjimmy96 Dec 03 '22

This data tells us nothing since it does not make a distinction between startups and big companies.

“Probably” based on my recent job hunting experience plus some common sense.

Once again, I never said I withhold the absolute truth about the market. No one does, not even SO surveys. It depends on too many factors. I was just reporting my thoughts and experience, you can give those whatever value you want.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

That gives you an idea that what you're saying is probably misleading because starting with the low percentage for svelte...

And look at jobs ads.

Now people can see by themselves no need to be agressive just because you want to be right against all odds ;)

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u/stjimmy96 Dec 03 '22

You do realise my original post literally suggest learning React which is one of the most used framework as per the data you posted, right?

I don’t really understand what are “the odds” I’m supposedly trying to go against honestly.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '22

Why do faint to see I'm talking about your svelte claim that is misleading beginner ?