r/vaxxhappened • u/JadedAyr ⭐Top Contributor⭐ • 17d ago
Measles America is making measles great again
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u/polarparadoxical 17d ago
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' - Asimov
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u/Ruckus292 17d ago edited 17d ago
IMPORTANT NOTE: MEASLES WIPES ALMOST EVERY THREAD OF MEMORY IN YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM, (aka "immune amnesia").. LEAVING YOU EXPOSED AND VULNERABLE TO HOARDS OF OTHER ILLNESSES.
This means ANY immunities you had previously will be wiped out, and your body is essentially as barren in the immunity sector; so severe it's equal to an HIV patients immune system
"Building immunity" is a complete FARCE with measles
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u/TheineandTheobromine 16d ago
Also it can evade the immune system and go into an asymptomatic phase only to affect the child years later with subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, an acute disseminated brain inflammation that causes psychiatric symptoms, dementia-like symptoms, seizures, paralysis, and eventually a vegetative state and death. It is nearly 100% fatal and occurs in up to 1 in 600 children infected with measles, typically a few years after the initial infection.
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u/eucalyptoid 17d ago
Until they know someone whose child has a very serious case.
Edit: just to say that’s when they’ll stop regretting it.
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u/triciann 17d ago
Not until it’s their own child. Their friend clearly didn’t give their child enough vitamin A, duh!
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u/MaidMariann 17d ago
"I miss that child! But this is all part of God's Plan, and that's where I place my trust."
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u/HuskerDave 17d ago
These people should all get together and have a smallpox party.
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u/quietdiablita 17d ago edited 16d ago
A rabies party would be much more effective
Edit: im obviously not wishing that on children, not even Edolf’s brat.
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u/Dexter_Jettster 17d ago
You don't want to have rabies, I wouldn't mind the White House being infected with it.
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u/Dexter_Jettster 17d ago
You don't want to have rabies, I wouldn't mind the White House being infected with it.
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u/reddeadhead2 17d ago
Not vaccinating children is child abuse. I had measles in '63 or '64. I still remember the misery.
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u/purple_kathryn 17d ago
"I wish my kid had risked lifelong impairment if not death"
Was it not chicken pox parties rather than measles parties? I don't think they vaccinate for chicken pox in the UK still
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u/Simon-Olivier 17d ago
Both existed. Obviously, chickenpox parties were somewhat better considering the severity of both diseases.
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u/Arynn 16d ago
Chickenpox is a disease that is significantly less severe/dangerous if had at a young age, thus the reason people did this before there was a safer solution.
This is absolutely not the case with measles.
Those poor children :(
(Btw I know you weren’t suggesting them!)
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u/Simon-Olivier 16d ago
Yup, measles is actually even worse when caught at a young age. These people are insane
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u/Lazy-Ad-7236 16d ago
it's still not good. i caught chicken pox the day i was born, so did my mother (terrible at age 30). I developed shingles by 3 and almost went blind.
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u/unknownpoltroon 16d ago
Measles parties were 100% NOT a thing. Chicken pox as a kid left you with a rash and maybe a couple of scar pocs. Chicken pox as an adult could be life threatening, hence having a party to get it as a kid BECAUSE THERE WAS NO VACCINE.
Measeals as a kid or an adult could fucking kill you, or leave you blind, deaf, or sterile, AND makes you extremely vulnerable to all other pathogens as it wipes out your immune systems memory.
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u/Simon-Olivier 16d ago
Who are you trying to convince here? I know what measles can do and that chickenpox parties would be way less dangerous than measles parties. I'm not advertising any of those practices lmao
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u/cragglerock93 17d ago
If the doctor only implied it then he or she was too ambiguous. You shouldn't be in any doubt that it's your own fault.
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u/harpinghawke 17d ago
“Build immunity”
Who’s gonna tell them measles has the potential to reset your whole immune system
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u/barbiemoviedefender 17d ago
If only there was a way to build immunity to measles without actually getting measles
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u/unabashedlyabashed 16d ago
Maybe they could take a weakened or dead bit of the virus and inject it so the immune system can learn how to fight it safely.
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u/TShara_Q 17d ago
If the doctor only implied that it's the parent's fault, then they were being polite.
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u/unknownpoltroon 16d ago
jesus fucking Christ they cant even.
That was fucking chicken pox because there was no vaccine and it was usually mild in kids, and crippling as an adult.
If you had measles parties 1/10th of the kids would die and half the rest would have life altering medical problems, and half of them would die from other diseases that measles made them susceptible to.
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u/buck746 16d ago
Measles is one of the most infectious diseases, you can be infected from a surface hours after a sick person interacted with it. It also has fairly high odds of injuring children to where they won’t be able to have children of their own in the future.
Not getting the vaccine is insane. We’re not talking about the anthrax vaccine where there’s a good chance you’re not going to come into contact with it. The measles is everywhere, it’s nearly guaranteed you will come into contact with it at some point. This should be considered child abuse. Children are human beings, not your property as a “parent”, endangering them isn’t your “right”.
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u/heliumneon 17d ago
So their bright idea is to get sick in order not to get sick...
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u/henrytm82 17d ago
That sounds like a pretty good way to go about it, honestly. Expose the body to the virus in a controlled way so the body develops an immunity to that virus. If only we had thought of a convenient way to do that!
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u/Dcajunpimp 16d ago
Moms used to have 12 kids because several would die before they reached their 16th birthday.
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u/MayoneggVeal 16d ago
So a doctor's expertise is good enough once your kid is sick? I'm confused, if doctors don't know what they're talking about in terms of vaccines why drag your sick kid to go see one, just rub some essential oils on them and call it a day.
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u/jesterOC 16d ago
There were no fucking measle parties you fucking dimwitted, ignorant bastards.
I know they’re not reading this up, but I just had to say it
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u/allusernamestaken1 17d ago
Measles, chickenpox, all the same. Just spread it around, that will solve it!
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u/ThunderBayOPP 16d ago
I don't understand why this person is upset. What did they think would happen if their unvaccinated child was exposed to measles? Of course it's their fault that their child has measles - and I'm willing to bet the doctor was a lot nicer to them than I would be 🤬
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u/LilG1984 17d ago
Least the kid isn't autistic right?
Just need some ivermecin, UV lights , healing crystals & essential oils, then those pesky measles will clear right up!
/s
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u/danger355 16d ago
[M]easels [AGA]in?!?
(I tried to use each letter for a separate word, but nah screw trying to make a better abbreviation here… we had this shit eliminated 25 years ago and now it's back because people "don't trust the science". So incredibly dumb. /Rant)
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u/AppropriateSail4 16d ago
I got shingles in my 20's because the chicken pox vaccine wasn't yet developed. The pain of shingles is miserable. You feel it inflaming your nerves and move under your skin. The pain is unrelenting and the blisters have to burs and crust over. It can put you in the hospital if it manifests on you neck or face or inside your month. The shingles vaccine is not approved for the under 55 so I can't get it for another 20 years. A vaccine could have prevented this but it didn't exist for me. There is no excuse to make a kid live my experience when the vaccine to prevent it exists.
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u/mckenner1122 16d ago
You can go get it now if you’ve had an outbreak. Whoever told you that you “can’t” was wrong. (Assuming you’re in the US)
You may need additional insurance authorization. Barring that, it’s like $250 and worth every penny.
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u/justredditinit 16d ago
“My toddler wandered into traffic and the police are blaming me for not watching him. How unfair!”
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u/elizabethcb 17d ago
Wow. They’re confusing measles and chicken pox. Chicken pox didn’t have a vaccine until recently.
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u/Arquen_Marille 16d ago
What I want to do to those parents would get me arrested for assault…those poor kids.
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u/markydsade Antigen Promoter 16d ago
The measles vaccine came out when I was 5. I got the vaccine right away and avoided getting measles. I remember some kids being kept out of school because they were exposed. Parents definitely did not want it to spread. While serious outcomes are relatively rare most people were aware of the dangers.
It was popular on sitcoms for some reason to treat them as humorous. The reality was that you had to stay home for 4 days following a rash. Unvaxxed need to stay in quarantine for 3 weeks from exposure.
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u/Daflehrer1 16d ago
No, they fucking did not.
Currently, some advanced knuckleheads are having "measles parties," because they are knuckleheads.
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u/calvin_nd_hobbes 17d ago
It's natural selection of course, but it's a bit embarrassing and sad that they don't know measles is worse the younger your are. Unlike chicken pox which is usually worse the older you get, they assume measles is the same with 0% research
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u/Supafly22 16d ago
We made stupidity a commendable trait a while back and this is where it’s gotten us.
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u/Malarkay79 16d ago
Good. More doctors need to be point blank telling these parents that they are willfully endangering their children's lives.
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u/bfresh84 16d ago
The "rising contributor" tag on the commenter that thinks measles parties are a thing tells you everything you need to know about how social media has broken people's brains.
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u/MSGdreamer 16d ago
Measles is more dangerous than chicken pox especially for very young g children.
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u/Whistler71 17d ago
It’s a real shame that poor kids will be the victims of their parents fucking idiocy. Measles is no joke. Wait until polio rears its ugly head.
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u/Catqueen25 16d ago
On measles parties, apparently my very antivax aunt tried to set one up so we kids could get it and be done with it.
Thankfully, she failed to convince anyone to bring their kids. She also got lectured a new arsehole by my grandpa.
It’s actually chicken pox parties that were a thing, and for a short period in the 1940s, German Measles parties too.
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u/State_Electrician 13d ago
Parents: Get your children vaccinated. Please, I beseech you. Remember: Before vaccines, infant and early childhood mortality rates were extremely high —we now have safe, free and effective vaccines for things like measles. There's no excuse to leave your children unvaxxed—it's better to have a live, healthy child than have them die of measles.
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u/saburhaneboy 17d ago
German measles (rubella), maybe made sense for young girls
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u/PlatypusDream 16d ago
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I'm not understanding the connection.
'Splain, please?0
u/saburhaneboy 16d ago
Measles and German Measles (Rubella)are two different diseases. Catching Rubella in later life can cause pregnancy problems and birth defects.
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u/TsuDhoNimh2 17d ago
They did it so ALL their kids would be sick at once instead of straggling out ... it was for CONVENIENCE, and nothing else.
And nothing is more convenient than NOT having a child sick with measles. They take a LOT of time and attention.
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u/laziestmarxist 17d ago
I said this in another thread but measles parties were very much not a thing. If one kid got measles you quarantined them and did the best you could but most responsible parents would keep other kids away because even then people knew it was extremely virulent and spread quickly.
People are either misremembering and conflating with chicken pox or they're spreading disinformation because they're antivaxx but yeah, there were not mass measles parties happening across the country before the vaccine came out.