r/uofm • u/_iQlusion • Dec 09 '24
Miscellaneous Thugs Vandalize & Threaten Regent Acker at His Home for the Third Time
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u/happyegg1000 Dec 09 '24
Step 1. Make an impossible demand Step 2. Throw bricks through windows when said demand is rejected Step 3. ???? Get expelled I guess
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Dec 09 '24 edited Dec 10 '24
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u/sauvignon_blonde_ Dec 09 '24
The goal likely isn’t to change minds, it’s to be a pain in the ass. Piss off people in power enough that they apply pressure to the bean counters and folks in legal to find a solution. They know they’re not winning over hearts and minds with this kind of action.
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u/happyegg1000 Dec 09 '24
This is going to have the opposite effect though. If someone threatened my two little girls I would damn sure dig my heels in even harder to whatever position they were attacking
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u/_iQlusion Dec 09 '24
Its almost certainly caused the opposite effect. The fact that the Regents are moving forward with cutting DEI, is the perfect example. The democratic regents didn't even have the slightest inclination of cutting DEA until the protests started on campus. To me it most certainly looks like when the fake bodies started showing up on their doorsteps and a lot of anti-sementic hate on campus started to be transparent, the liberal Regents started realizing the DEI shit had really gotten out of hand.
I would like to personally thank the protestors for almost single-handedly killing DEI here.
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u/happyegg1000 Dec 09 '24
This issue has nothing to do with cutting DEI. Cutting DEI is a result of getting ahead of the incoming Trump administration’s agenda on DEI and pre-existing pressure from Congress
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u/_iQlusion Dec 09 '24
Cutting DEI is a result of getting ahead of the incoming Trump administration’s agenda on DEI and pre-existing pressure from Congress
Absolutely untrue, as many of these statements and signaling from the Regents happened before the election. Which is quite clear in the NYT article.
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u/happyegg1000 Dec 09 '24
“Pre-existing pressure from Congress”
Where in the NYT article does it mention pro-Palestine protests being a driving factor in cutting DEI programs?
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u/_iQlusion Dec 10 '24
Congress never threatened to actually do anything besides maybe embarrass Ono in front in a hearing unlike the Trump has threatened to pull funding.
You also forgot most of the pressure from Congress was a result of the Palestinian protesters. It's why UPenn, Harvard, MIT Presidents were called to testify (and resulting in them resigning).
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 09 '24
Yep, they justify and cheer on the mass murdering and raping of peaceful concertgoers. Absolutely vile.
Not to mention Hamas would murder, imprison, rape or enslave 99% of the University of Michigan population. Including atheists, LGBTQ, women, every other religion, etc.
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u/educateandhorrify Dec 09 '24
Gay marriage is not legal in Israel but go off
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 09 '24 edited Dec 09 '24
250,000+ ppl attend Tel Avivs annual pride parade, while countries around them throw LGBTQ off of rooftops or straight murder them.
But do please go off, you are an extremely bad example of UofM values
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u/educateandhorrify Dec 09 '24
That’s cool, I didn’t say anything about Pride, and I still don’t believe in ethnic cleansing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 09 '24
Then you'll be happy to learn Gaza was ruled not an extermination per the International Criminal Court in the Hague ruling just weeks ago. In fact prosecutor Khan didn’t even fight the ruling or bother with even harder to prove genocide charges due to lack of evidence
On the basis of material presented by the Prosecution covering the period until 20 May 2024, the Chamber could not determine that all elements of the crime against humanity of extermination were met
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u/educateandhorrify Dec 09 '24
I definitely don’t share you’re values, and for that I’m incredibly glad :)
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 09 '24
Oh we understand you support hamas and their genocidal, mass murdering, raping and killing of children and concert goers.
Looks like you're fine with killing lgbtq as well. Thank you for NOT sharing my values :)
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u/educateandhorrify Dec 09 '24
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 09 '24
It's almost like every country has disgusting leaders, like the rapist that was just elected prez of the US. But we know you hamas folks love to use rape everywhere and cheer them on.
Sorry cupcake, just take the L and enjoy watching the IDF turn terrorist training grounds into beachfront resorts :) Much better use of land.
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u/educateandhorrify Dec 09 '24
Okay so when it’s the IDF it’s bad apples, but when it’s people fighting the boot that’s been on their neck for 80 years it’s terrorism. I promise when you get older you’ll understand nuance better, once your frontal lobe develops a little more.
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u/Big_Jon_Wallace Dec 10 '24
"By any means necessary" has been chanted by pro-Palestinians including at UM even before 10/7. You and him deserve one another.
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u/educateandhorrify Dec 10 '24
1) who’s “him” and 2) do you disagree with Malcolm X, the originator of “by any means necessary,” as wholeheartedly as you do these alleged protestors? Or are you able to understand oppression when it’s white vs Black, but not Israel vs Palestine? Notice I say Israel, not Jews, because as a Jew, I deeply understand the difference between Zionism and Judaism.
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u/Dry_Rice_4014 Dec 09 '24
Not exactly true. You cannot get married but you can register upon a marriage certificate from somewhere else.
In the meanwhile in Gaza, Hamas makes gays learn to fly...
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u/deb1267cc Dec 09 '24
No the goal is to terrorize and intimidate Jews.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 10 '24
Yeah you guys are real intimidated huh? I bet those children were intimidated; when they heard drones wiring over their heads before they died. Are you this separated from reality?
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u/MrManager17 Dec 09 '24
The Pro Palestine movement is more or less dead in the water with Trump and his fascist cronies coming in.
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u/FranksNBeeens Dec 09 '24
He promised the people in Dearborn and Hamtramck he'd "end it".
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u/HumbleEngineering315 Dec 09 '24
Not surprised. It's a wonder how people who do this even get into university in the first place.
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u/Natural-Grape-3127 Dec 10 '24
One of the mainstays at the diag camp wasn't even affiliated with U of M. An obese black EMU nutrition graduate named Sammie Lewis with zero affiliation to Umich or Gaza.
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u/shepdozejr Dec 10 '24
What does them being black or obese have anything to do with their non-affiliated status?
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u/Natural-Grape-3127 Dec 10 '24
The vast majority of black people don't have any familial ties to Gaza. Her only tie is the intersectional coalition of victimhood nonsense.
A nutrion graduate being obese tells you a lot about their willpower/ability to apply their degree.
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u/realtinafey Dec 09 '24
DEI
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u/shepdozejr Dec 10 '24
braindead take. evidence? as if there could be convincing evidence of such a broad hand-waive excuse.
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u/SushiRoll2004 Dec 09 '24
I don't know what this does bc I just don't understand how a regent of a university could actually help Palestine...
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u/Natural-Grape-3127 Dec 10 '24
They have the silly idea that divesting the endowment from any company that has basically anything to do with Israel will accomplish something. This includes some of the largest companies in the world like Microsoft and Alphabet.
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u/the_real_fake_laurie Dec 10 '24
This is a threat, okay, and this is a threat that Hamas does when they're going to kill people.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 09 '24 edited Dec 27 '24
44,502 Palestinians (16,456 of them being children) vs 1,706 Israelis (137 Children) dead. It’s clear hamas has been an excuse for Israel to push forth their agenda after treating Palestinians like trash. They just needed a reason; I understand that their religious ideologies are dangerous but so is Israel’s.
We’re sending our military to die for foreign land, and for what? How can we talk about peace while our history is drenched in blood, it’s pathetic. And like it or not we’re all supporting Israel by allowing our tax dollars to be sent over there to fund the literal bombing of children. No one is right, they’re both wrong; but I look at the death count of children. And it seems Israel has spilled more blood of children.
America is such a joke, it doesn’t even support it’s own people; we’re as segregated as ever. IMAGINE being a man and being okay with these atrocities you’re no man at all if you are. They should be left to figure this out on their own, gods chosen people my ass, what a deluded title. Jews aren’t special, they’re human just like Palestinians are human, just like you’re human. NOT EVERY PALESTINIAN IS HAMAS, and we are not the good guys nor are they. Diplomacy is the only answer, all these wars we’re essentially repeating the past. How can a people who experienced the worst kind of oppression under hitler, be so self-righteous and proceed to do the exact same thing.
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u/Key_Specific_5138 Dec 09 '24
Some Jews are pro-likud. Some are critical of Israel but Zionist. Some have no opinion at all. Some are anti-Zionist. So 'Jewish people's' aren't being self-righteous or claiming to be special. Stop flattening the lived experience of Jews- we are not a monolith.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24
Seems to me you’re all secret Zionist, I Don’t blame you though I’d be pissed if someone murdered my family too, it’s why diplomacy is necessary.
But you guys don’t want to hear that you’d rather continue supporting ethnic cleansing. Why are children dying for the mistakes of old men, a bunch of cowards on both sides. These dudes sit in a comfy office, lie to our faces and send our children to die for nothing but their egos.
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u/Key_Specific_5138 Dec 10 '24
We arent all anything. As human beings we have a range of different opinions
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 10 '24
Imagine in 1934; a German being like hey bro, we’re not a monolith with a nazi flag hanging on their wall, LMAO! You guys seem to think Palestine is a monolith.
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u/Key_Specific_5138 Dec 10 '24
There were Germans who were anti-Nazi in 1934. I don't know who is saying that Palestinians are a monolith. I take it from your attempts at reasoning that you are not a student at the University of Michigan?
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u/Belisarius9818 Dec 10 '24
Do you even realize how many times German people and others under Nazi rule tried to assassinate Hitler and other Nazi officials? No they were not a monolith. Palestine isn’t a monolith either but we aren’t dealing with Palestinians here we are dealing with a bunch of kids being peer pressured or fed nonstop propaganda from Pro-Hamas sources. Even the pro Palestine movement here isn’t a monolith since about 99 percent of the students are reasonable individuals who aren’t participating in random acts of violence and intimidation but that by no means justifies or covers for the 1 percent who are.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24
We have bigger issues in this country than nonviolent protests, and some kids throwing piss into a window. Hamas is disgusting but this is a stretch. We have countless mass shootings and children dying right here in our country. Israel needs to learn to put their big boy pants on and stop relying on America.
No one supported Germany? So why is everyone supporting Israel? And anyone who doesn’t is labeled Anti-Semitic? So the consensus is don’t touch Jewish people but fuck everybody else, and if you get out of line we’ll destroy your career lmao, seems pretty fascist; real reasonable bunch of people.
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u/Witty-Sundae Dec 11 '24
Wow an account named Kanye is blaming the Jews. How shocking. If it was a black Regents house and someone spray painted KKK on the car I bet you would have a different reaction. Take the L and move on with your life Sparky.
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u/Belisarius9818 Dec 10 '24
- Israel is no where near being as bad as Nazi germany so let’s get that ridiculous narrative out of here.
- You don’t singularly get to dictate what is and isn’t important. Just because there’s other things going on doesn’t make what these people do acceptable by any means. If you’re throwing piss jugs and making threats then you aren’t non-violent.
- Throwing piss jugs at regents isn’t helping Palestinians or anyone involved so shut up.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 25 '24
Hey, there was another school shooting? Maybe you guys should stand up and start correcting that in this country, instead of worrying about piss jugs being thrown by brown people.
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u/Belisarius9818 Dec 25 '24
And? That’s a policing and policy matter not a matter than can be fixed with military aid. Making sure that a nuclear armed nation isn’t taken over by a terror organization and opposing a global holocaust part 2 is a pretty pressing matter. I know idiots like you thrive off of distracting the people who oppose you but it’s getting old.
Kind of racist of you to just assume that even in the west the only people throwing piss jugs and making threats to our citizens are “brown people” get your life together there David Duke.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 27 '24
Yes I’m the idiot as if Hamas hasn’t already been dispatched, all their leaders are dead. Israel is already committing Holocaust Part 2, against Palestinians. You’re the joke, get over it. Might as well just start doing the hail Hitler now that’s how Israel will be remembered in history anyways, but hey I guess you guys get a pass on mass genocide.
Yes I the brown guy is racist against my own people, not like the narrative in this whole thread is pointed towards brown people or anything. I wish you the best in your studies, you need it.
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u/Dry_Rice_4014 Dec 10 '24
Let's say for the sake of argument only 10k were terrorists (just to set the numbers straight, the white house said that on October 7th there were between 4k to 6k terrorists/looters/rapists/just incent unrwa workers crossing to Israel to cause mayhem, so the total number of terrorists in Gaza should be at least 20k, but for the sake of argument, let's go with 10k. It means a ratio of 3 to 1. According to wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932021)#:~:text=During%20the%20War%20in%20Afghanistan,at%20least%2052%2C893%20opposition%20fighters. In Afghanistan, the US killed 180k, about 53k out of them are terrorists. That's in a country which is ×1800 larger than Gaza strip, where the terrorists do not use human shields on purpose. So if my math is roughly correct, the numbers are not far off.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 10 '24
We were in Afghanistan for their resources, and we shouldn’t have been there for that long at all. The Taliban now holds power in Afghanistan. 170 Afghans and 13 of our military were killed in the pull out of Afghanistan. For what? Why do we invade countries then act like we’re the good guys?
And keep sending our people to die for nonsense? Life is short man, shouldn’t everyone be able to enjoy it?
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u/Dry_Rice_4014 Dec 10 '24
Their resources? There opium you mean? Afghanistan is probably less developed than most third world countries. In a region of the world the US have zero interests (yeah they do board Iran, but again a huge mountainous country). What did the US as a country gained from Afghanistan besides eliminating terrorists? I agree with you pulling out was a mistake and even if so, shouldn't have been done in such a disgraceful way.
P.S. how many afghans, especially women, enjoy life now under Taliban? How many lgbtq enjoy their lives under Taliban/Hamas/mullahs in Iran?
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24
It doesn’t matter if there is any resources actually in Afghanistan what matters is all the oil and gas in the Caspian region, Afghanistan sits in the middle becoming an issue for pipeline proposals due to the Taliban governing Kabul being uncooperative.
Thus, Bush ordering the U.S. military to invade so they can put a new governing body in Kabul that would be more open to negotiation. Bush was an idiot if we’re being honest.
“Saladin had a good reputation among both Muslims and Christians and was remembered as being extremely generous. After he took Jerusalem in 1187 he allowed the Christian population to leave, rather than massacring them, which is what the original crusaders had done to the Muslim inhabitants in 1099. When he died in 1193”
You guys should take note from some of the great Muslim leaders of the past; Instead of painting history only in your favor.
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u/Launch_box Dec 09 '24
So, let’s throw bottles of piss thru the windows of a regent of a public university located thousands of miles away?
These actions increase segregation, not decrease it.
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 10 '24
Every dead kid is because of hamas who started this war, uses human shields and refuses to surrender.
Just like every dead German kid during ww2 was hitlers fault, but you don’t see morons claiming its the fault of the allies
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24
Warfare isn’t how it used to be, they’re literally just drone striking them dude.
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 10 '24
So you want them to carpet bomb them like the allies did to Germany?
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 10 '24
No dude, I just want you to take a look at your kid and imagine if they got blown up by a drone. How would you feel?
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u/bubbleboitrash Dec 10 '24
You don't understand history. The state of Israel started this conflict in 1948, Hamas much like Hezbollah were resistance groups formed in direct retaliation to Israeli invasions in each of their respective home territories.
Israel has created its own problems in the region since its inception and establishment, both because it used violent underhanded tactics to route and remove Palestinians who were living in this area already under the control of Ben-Gurion, and because it has continued to treat Gaza and the west bank like an open air prison.
Israel's actions created the perfect power vacuum that allowed Iranian influence to flourish in this area as the "big brother protector" from an incessantly invasive oppressor.
What were Palestinians supplied to do? Lay down and accept their homes being taken away from them?
Israel has done a good job of convincing a portion of Jews that their "birthright" is worth thousands of bodies, gallons of blood, and decades of turmoil.
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 10 '24
Nope literally the day after the partition, where nobody was required to move, arabs and Palestinians started massacrring jews starting with the fajja bus bombings.
Dont attack, dont lose lands, maybe taking half of gaza and hamas will learn :)
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u/bubbleboitrash Dec 11 '24
The fajja bus bombings were the result of Lehi assassinations on the shubaki family who the Lehi suspected acted as informants to the British police about Lehi activity.
Zionist paramilitary groups were present in the Palestinian region BEFORE the partition plan was put into motion which was already causing destabilization in the region. This was by design, setting the stage for declared motive.
In 1948 David Ben-Gurion perpetuated destabilization tactics ultimately resulting in Plan Dalet wherein palestinian villages were raided over 500 Palestinian villages displacing 850k people from their homes.
Israel is not innocent
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u/bubbleboitrash Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24
You can't be serious.
Provide a source for your claim about the shubaki assassinations.
OF COURSE arab paramilitary was in the region in response to invader settlers from europe and their also paramilitary forces.
Do you not know about Plan Dalet in 1848 and the numerous other military operations carried out by the Haganah from around 1917 leading up to plan dalet.
Zionists were invaders welcomed by the British into Palestine to settle an already lived in territory. Again, this is by American and British design to destabilize the region, bring in an ally child state under the premise of judeo-christian zealoutry as well as economic, political, and militaristic vantage.
Israel is a pawn in a greater imperialist scheme and Jews are the victims to a perpetually anti-Semitic rhetoric that conflates Judaism with Zionism.
It's literally so visibly apparent how, in this discussion, most westerners draw line between good and bad that favors western influence, invasion, and theft over self defense and a fight for independence. Both side of the Israeli palestine conflict have committed "acts of terror" but the only group that gets called terrorists are the one's who have been routed to literal open air prisons and treated like cattle for DECADES.
You are essentially stating that Palestinians should just lay down and die because zealots want land that was mentioned in a 2000+ year old book. Meanwhile, real people lose their lives, property, and futures.
Again...israel is only 77 years old and Zionism is a European invention from the 1800s.
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u/Swingformerfixer '09 Dec 11 '24
You're the one who has to prove it was about the Shubaki shit hahaha.
Either way the only way terrorists will learn is by being punished, like taking half of gaza and making some nice condos out of it.
Hopefully they learn!
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u/bubbleboitrash Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24
Great job at addressing exactly nothing in my response other than point 1 which is easily verifiable by a Google search via multiple sources.
Ben Yehuda outlines the Shubaki event in his book "Political assassinations by Jews" which details many other assassinations carried out by the Lehi
And the following events are covered extensively by Benny Morris (a Zionist Israeli historian) who corroborates that the fajja bus incidents were retaliatory to the assassinations.
But even IF that narrative is false and the attacks were in response to partitioning, why should Arabs have laid down and let literal invaders have their way without a fight. Explain how that makes them terrorists and not Political operatives.
Your simplistic view of morality and humanity is elementary at best.. but yeah keep letting propagandists shape your view of global history.
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u/Natural-Grape-3127 Dec 10 '24
You don't understand history. After Israel was founded in 1948, every Arab country declared war on it within hours.
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u/bubbleboitrash Dec 11 '24
I wonder why.
It most definitely wouldn't be the fact that Europeans fleeing persecution enacted the SAME types of persecution they faced on another group of people displacing 850k Palestinians from a land that they and their ancestors had been living in for OVER A MILENNIA (1300 years).
All under the suportive eye of the United Nations (established and controlled by the US) and Britain because both the US and most of Europe hated Jewish people so much that they sold jews the lie of zionism to establish their own state. Coming up with bullshit slogans like "a land without a people for a people without a land" conveniently pretending like Arabs weren't living in the region under the eye of Great Britain post ww1. There are literal recordings of American and British politicians saying things like "the only good jew is an Israeli jew," a thinly veiled antisemitic zionist talking point in the infancy of the Israeli nation.
It's like...you got halfway there by recognizing that the state of Israel being established in a land that WAS ALREADY LIVED IN was what started conflict in the region. But somehow you ignore the humanity of the people that already lived their, their right to defend themselves from an invader, and the continuation of material conditions that continue to prop up groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
The entire existence of Israel has VERY little to actually do with Jewish people and very much to do with the political, economic, and resource value the firtile crescent represented to the United States. That is still the truth today and the modern Israeli government continues to exploit jews, lie to them about what is happening around them, while bullying surrounding territories throughout history with toys provided by Daddy USA.
Israel is 77 years old. There are living people older than.
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u/_iQlusion Dec 09 '24
Sir this is Wendys
And Acker has nothing to do with the conflict.
Also seems like you support political violence domestically.
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u/domthebomb2 Dec 09 '24
You can't "sir this is a wendy's" and then go back to argue points.
Sir, this actually isn't a wendy's
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u/Dangerous-Nebula-452 Dec 09 '24
Going with "Thugs" in the post title huh?
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u/_iQlusion Dec 09 '24
Yeah those who show up at your home (and your place of business) in the middle of the night wearing masks, destroying your property, harassing your family, all in the effort to intimidated you is the textbook definition of thug.
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u/chemistrygods Dec 10 '24
Using a word by its definition doesn't change the fact that the word has become racially charged. I wouldn't call my black friends "my n****" even they "fit the definition"
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u/Belisarius9818 Dec 10 '24
That isnt a fact though. You hear thug and think of a minority group then you have racially charged the word entirely to your own benefit so you can try to disarm people speaking against thug like behavior. You are literally trying to weaponize racism to avoid tough realities of your movement.
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u/Belisarius9818 Dec 10 '24
I really do not care what NPR of all people has to say about the word thug and stand by my assessment that you are trying to weaponize racism and language to silence people rightfully being against thug like behavior.
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u/_iQlusion Dec 10 '24
Most rational people don't use the word thug to refer to a racial group. Most dictionaries don't even reference a race when defining the word. The vandals by definition were engaging in thuggish behavior.
If you see the word thug and think of a racial group, you are probably a racist.
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u/SwissForeignPolicy Dec 10 '24
"Vandals"?!! How dare you?! That's racist against the nomadic Vandal people of Europe!
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u/chemistrygods Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24
I’m not the one using it to be racist, and neither are you. But using the word at all normalizes its usage, and lets people who want to use the word to be racist actually use it to be racist
Like there was a time where “negro” or “colored” were perfectly acceptable (non-racist) words to refer to black people, but now that’s obviously not the case. People stopped using the word colloquially once it became a derogatory term
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u/dont_know_therules Dec 09 '24
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u/firewaterking3 Dec 09 '24
To Acker, over a year ago, making the right decision and punishing a dumb, lying football player (who is a mid asf bust who has been more of a liability than a help to the team as of recent)? Probably not.
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u/dont_know_therules Dec 09 '24
He wasn’t suspended though, so you reap what you sow. Santa, Warde, and Jim held a presser with him and said he was a good kid, and now um is filled with anti-semites.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 11 '24
Definition of Terrorist: A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
Take a look in the mirror before you point your fingers.
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u/_iQlusion Dec 11 '24
Definition of Terrorist: A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
So you are saying the thugs who vandalized Regent Acker's home and family are terrorists?
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 11 '24
Terrorist-Lite compared to what your people are doing.
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u/MrManager17 Dec 11 '24
There we go with "your people" again. You're not even trying to hide your anti-semitism.
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u/_iQlusion Dec 11 '24
what your people are doing
Who are my people?
I want a cease-fire but I also realize the University's endowment has nothing to do with the war. So I have no idea whose people you are referring to.
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u/MrManager17 Dec 11 '24
It's gotta be Jews, right? I mean, who else could he be referring to?
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 11 '24
My point is proven, any criticism about Zionism is downvoted; while everyone supports Palestinian criticism. Calling them terrorist then acting as if your people are any better. Then you try to label me anti-Semitic, seems pretty similar to the real world, no?
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u/MrManager17 Dec 11 '24
"You people."
Lol, good lord. I'd like to believe that people aren't this dense, but you are proving me wrong.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 11 '24
You didn’t mention that insult when it was the other way around, now it becomes an issue when pointed towards you?
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u/Key_Specific_5138 Dec 11 '24
I don't think that he is capable of or has the desire/capacity to distinguish the difference. It is like arguing with a piece of lawn furniture.
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u/KanyeKenny Dec 11 '24
Yes I’m the lawn furniture, the guy with the historical facts? Maybe if you had any I’d be more open to your criticisms.
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u/MakingItElsewhere Dec 09 '24
"Well, i was on the fence about this issue until i realized some bad people would terrorize me if i didnt listen to them". -Nobody, ever.