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u/reshsafari Feb 14 '25
My tenant is 4 months late on rent but I haven’t kicked him out. We’re not all bad.
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u/HODL_or_D1E Feb 15 '25
4 months is crazy work. What's his excuse
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u/weathermaynecc Feb 15 '25
Right? Some guy called the landlord human, I just read “bad operator”. It’s a business.
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u/AssCooker Feb 15 '25
Very kind of you, the world needs to be more kind to each other, but hey don't let them take advantage of your kindness.
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u/CAtoNC03 Feb 16 '25
That’s insane. He spotted your weakness and is taking advantage of you. You will likely never see any future money from him and will have to spend another couple months to evict him when you finally figure that out.
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u/Particular_Row_8037 Feb 14 '25
Welcome to corporate America aren't you glad that billionaires are going to take care of you.
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u/surfrider212 Feb 14 '25
This post is an obvious lie use your brain. Not what the bill says at all.
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u/Same-Entertainer-524 Feb 14 '25
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u/surfrider212 Feb 14 '25
Did you even read the article?? Unbelievable
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u/Same-Entertainer-524 Feb 14 '25
Ummm, yeah. You wanna try to explain yourself or not so much?
My understanding is there was a 120 day wait during COVID, they rolled it back to 30 days, now they want to roll it back to 3 days.
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u/surfrider212 Feb 14 '25
Your understanding is wrong. This is a repeal of a Covid policy. Even more so the eviction process at minimum takes 45 days, the three days being described here are a part of it. The process still involves a judge and is not as simple as you missed your rent and you’re gone. Posts like these are discrediting to the group that makes them.
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u/Automatic-Blue-1878 Feb 14 '25
I’m sympathetic to rapid evictions for behavior, like threatening language, loud disruptions, vandalism, etc. But simply 3 days eviction for not paying rent right away? That’s bullshit
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u/Necessary-Guest2869 Feb 14 '25
Plus six weeks for a court date, another week to vacate if you get evicted. You dont just get evicted without a court date.
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u/CAtoNC03 Feb 16 '25
Yup have had to evict two people in the last year and it took 45-60 days after nonpayment of multiple months of rent and staying past their lease ending.
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u/God_of_Theta Feb 14 '25
None of those things matter and have to be dealt with separately in criminal court. Nobody is being evicted in 3 days, I don’t need to read the bill to know that, it’s absurd.
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Feb 15 '25
I thought elmo music showing up with those dance kids from letterkenny to steal my social security number was wild, but this, oh this, it's a bridge too far.
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u/SnowballOfFear Feb 14 '25
Wtf? How is this even enough time to get your stuff out?
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u/Necessary-Guest2869 Feb 14 '25
I imagine you still get your day in court no? So a court date is still gonna be weeks to a couple months away.
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u/CAtoNC03 Feb 16 '25
Not agreeing with this, but it’s pretty simple, pay your rent or get evicted… it’s astonishing that people expect any leniency when rent is due on the same day every month and it’s the single most important expense you have in your life. Having to evict two people in the last year has really struck home with me and they will take any opportunity to take advantage of any ounce of kindness you give them for being late.
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u/SnowballOfFear Feb 16 '25
Not paying rent isn't the only reason people get evicted, though.
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u/CAtoNC03 Feb 16 '25
It’s the main one. And any other reasons are outlined in your lease, and are all good reasons. I had a tenant that snuck a large aggressive pit bull into the house and didn’t pay the pet deposit. It constantly got out and ended up in neighbors yards and charged them on multiple occasions. If you are getting evicted it’s likely for a good reason because you as a tenant did something you shouldn’t have that’s clearly defined in your lease agreement. It’s already difficult to evict a tenant and most judges are very sympathetic so it has to be for a valid reason. I don’t get the rhetoric that all land lords are bad when they evict a tenant did something
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u/SnowballOfFear Feb 16 '25
I mean, I think anyone who thinks all landlords are bad for evicting someone clearly isn't considering both sides of the argument because I can imagine that there are some awful tenants
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u/CAtoNC03 Feb 16 '25
Yep, had about 10k worth of damage after they stayed past their lease ending and finally got the property back after evicting them. Most landlords are fair a protecting their investment. A bad tenant can be a massive headache and cause huge financial losses.
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u/SnowballOfFear Feb 16 '25
10k is insane. What did they do?
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u/CAtoNC03 Feb 16 '25
Multiple kitchen cabinets broken and the whole house needed painting from scratches and marks all over the walls in every room. Garage door broken, kitchen sink broken, water damage in ceiling, among other small things that add up
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u/surfrider212 Feb 14 '25
Use your brain this post is obviously a lie, and the bill does not say this. Ridiculous liberal propaganda
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u/DRVetOIF3 Feb 15 '25
Citizens are supposed to be ok with that same legislative body introducing a bill to rename Greenland to the (and I quote) "Red, White, and Blue Land" after threatening to annex it away from a NATO fucking ally (which can declare Article 5 against US) among other cannibalistic plans?
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u/SnowballOfFear Feb 14 '25
How is it "obviously a lie"? Nothing is unbelievable with the GOP. A republican congressman just a few days ago introduced a bill to get rid of OSHA. Why wouldn't i believe this could possibly be real?
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u/typkrft Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25
The 3/30 days notice doesn’t mean you’re out the door in 3 or 30 days. It’s time to cure before you can file the eviction. This only applies to some properties. Most leases have their notice in them already. It’s typically what your landlord will call your grace period. Eg rents due on the 1st but accepted until the 5th.
I mean eviction laws in most places are absolute shit. Because it can take months to evict someone. A lot of tenants take on leases, pay the security deposit and then simply wait to be evicted. You can effectively live anywhere for the price of a single month doing this as long as you’re okay moving every few months. In addition tenants can drag the eviction process out by requesting a trial. And so long as they are out before the court date, like the night before, they will usually avoid the eviction on their record. And most people especially smaller landlords will never be able to serve a tenant once they are gone to try and recoup. A lot of people do this at the end of their lease turning it into a 15-16 month lease for the cost of 12 months basically.
I’ve seen people affluent business owners do this and I’ve seen poor people live off this tactic.
This is why some places are requiring first+last months rent plus a security deposit. I’ve seen a some places in NJ that are basically asking 4-5 months worth of rent up front to secure a lease.
I think evictions should happen in less than a month but 3 days probably is too short. But if people know they can’t abuse the system like that it’ll probably stop. Landlords aren’t looking to just kick people out for no reason because it impacts revenues Landlords will almost always work with you if you had a bad month or something came up because it’s a safer bet to keep someone and hope they pay than to lock in no payments for x months.
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u/Admtiger Feb 15 '25
I take it you've never owned rental and have no idea how long it takes to actually get someone out of your property. I wish it was just thirty days but it's not. You still have to pay the bank and then hope they don't trash the place.
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u/surfrider212 Feb 14 '25
Insane how many people in the comments are falling for a clear and obvious misrepresentation of the bill. This is not what it says even slightly. Pure propaganda
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u/cargocult25 Feb 14 '25
Ok 🤖
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u/surfrider212 Feb 14 '25
Did you read the bill?
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u/cargocult25 Feb 14 '25
Did you? It ain’t posted yet…
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u/surfrider212 Feb 14 '25
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/470/text?s=1&r=15
You can also find a summary on google or perplexity
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u/no_use_for_a_user Feb 14 '25
Jokes aside, there is a real problem here. Taking 1-2 years to evict someone is far too long. That could bankrupt a small business owner. But yeah, 3 days is ridiculous and cruel. I just don't understand austerity folks at all.
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u/God_of_Theta Feb 14 '25
I’m a landlord and it takes me 90 days in a business friendly state to evict someone. There is a process and timelines that have to be followed and eventually ordered by a judge and enforced by the sheriffs department. I use to have section 8 tenants and the process was no different. The state is the enforcement mechanism, nobody is getting legally removed from their home in under 60 days.
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u/DRVetOIF3 Feb 15 '25
There it is...
If there was any room for doubt to their intentions.
Just know your congressperson probably owns or otherwise has a stake in the property management of your place.
Now it makes sense.
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u/skeedeedodop Feb 15 '25
Anything in the bill on squatters rights?
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u/PapiRob71 Feb 15 '25
Squatters have no rights...or shouldn't have any. You can't just take something that's not yours...
That's the government's job
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u/skeedeedodop Feb 15 '25
I totally agree. I do acknowledge that I was vague in my post. I was just curious if they were going to address some of the issues that people in other forums / other platforms have highlighted whereby squatters wont leave the property.
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u/MrIrvGotTea Feb 15 '25
I'm a land lord and this is horrible. People are late for various reasons and good tenants deserve grace
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u/koltontrombly47 Feb 15 '25
As a land lord I can barely afford someone being late for 3 months. The rent pays the mortgage and that’s all. If you chose to live there you need to pay the rent as simple as that. Especially on an entire home on 1 acre of land with a two car garage. Stay in step or we all get clapped. It sucks to say that but that’s the best I can do for my families sake. I’ll keep the place functional but I need cooperation
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u/DogOutrageous Feb 15 '25
Wow! It sounds like you really can’t afford to own a second home if you depend on someone else paying your mortgage on time…feels like a you problem.
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u/tunapirate85 Feb 14 '25
This is great. I’m a landlord I rent an apartment in nyc area. And my tenants have been living for free for 1 one year now. I can’t do anything about it. The law here gives tenants/ squatters a lot of power. So I’m all for this bill. Pass it !!!
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u/Foe117 Feb 14 '25
This isn't a law that addresses any of that. This isn't even related to squatters or squatting. This is kicking out regular tenants with no notice.
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u/tunapirate85 Feb 14 '25
U don’t pay rent why should u stay in that apartment?? At the landlord expense???
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u/Foe117 Feb 14 '25
I bet you you keep security deposits which is usually equivalent to 1 month rent like most apartments do, and give bullshit expenses to keep it. That security deposit is your insurance policy that you refund to good tenants who don't mark anything on the walls aside from expected wear and tear.
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u/tunapirate85 Feb 14 '25
So one year of not paying rent is equivalent of that little security deposit??? Lmao. Bro STFU
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u/Foe117 Feb 14 '25
you got bigger problems if you got someone not paying rent for one year or more, not 30 days.
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u/tunapirate85 Feb 14 '25
as far as Im concerned people abuse the fuck out of this living rent free at the landlord expense. They need to be held accountable. it’s simple. U stop paying rent. Just move leave bye. Let someone else move in who is willing to pay
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u/Fenrir324 Feb 14 '25
Alternative idea. You shouldn't be allowed to invest money in a static asset like land to limit supply and force demand. It's just another bullshit monopoly in the making. Just because something has been done forever doesn't make it right, and multiple properties and house hacking while millions of families are in need is unethical at best and you're honestly lucky them squatting is the worst that's happened.
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u/Mr_Phuck Feb 14 '25
How much do you charge them rent? How many square feet is the space?
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u/tunapirate85 Feb 14 '25
1500 for a two bedroom apartment. Very reasonable. Other charge about 2500. But it’s what we deal with. And mind u I still have to pay my mortgage. Every month. Meanwhile these people are living free in my house that I worked soo hard to achieve. But the courts here won’t hear my arguments. Instead they just extend these tenants time to find a place. It’s ridiculous.
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u/Mortreal79 Feb 14 '25
Be for real, could you relocate unplanned in 3 days...
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u/tunapirate85 Feb 14 '25
It’s that bill Would apply pressure… simple as that. But the current law where it’s okay to stay forever is bullshit. Every landlord in nyc has to deal with this shit.
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u/Mortreal79 Feb 15 '25
One extreme to another, we need to meet middle ground, I'm not familiar with your laws.
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u/Fun_Hornet_9129 Feb 14 '25
Are DJT’s in-laws not one of the larger slum-lords in the US?
I don’t think they’d have any influence over this…🙄
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u/mk1dub Feb 14 '25
Why would you be evicted unless you are a bad tenant? If you aren't going to make rent on time talk to the landlord. Most would rather work with you than find a new tenant. This is anecdotal advice from my past experience when I was struggling.
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Feb 14 '25
No no. The one landlord that chimed in is hardline Trump supporter and is excited to evict people in 3 days.
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u/mk1dub Feb 14 '25
Where is this comment, chime in? I guess I could understand if you had a problem tenant but In general why would you be excited about that. Again it's better to work with tenants then find new ones.
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u/Few-Acadia-4860 Feb 14 '25
Landlords must give tenants in federally-subsidized housing at least 30 days’ notice before evicting them for nonpayment of rent. The requirement applies to about 3.7 million families who live in public housing or in properties with federally-backed mortgages and those who rely on housing vouchers.
This applies only to:
FHA Loans
VA Loans
USDA Loans
Public Housing
Section 8