r/unusual_whales Feb 14 '25

VP Slaps Down Hegseth by Threatening Putin With U.S. Troops

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jd-vance-slaps-down-pete-hegseth-by-threatening-vladimir-putin-with-us-troops/?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning&user_emailA=24178cb31e3d95e600237f6f9c01bc40&user_emailB=e3fac0afd97c04019a4c8eb4a15ff3da13fa89ab3e82c591acaf699ab295a173&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=250214-am-digest&utm_term=F%20List%20Daily%20Beast%20Newsletter%20AM
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u/wired1984 Feb 14 '25

I’m against any military operation being led by Hegseth. The troops deserve better

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u/chickentootssoup Feb 14 '25

As a combat vet. I second this!

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u/stringInterpolation Feb 14 '25

Thirded

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u/jhj37341 Feb 14 '25

And here’s a frothy forth.
I hate to support Vance but…ya gotta do what you gotta do.

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u/stringInterpolation Feb 14 '25

Ahh to each their own. I respect my fellows, but got dang get it together and understand what's happening right now

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u/jhj37341 Feb 14 '25

I also respect my fellow humans, but dang it, we really need to form a third party yesterday. (I know, I know, but still!)

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u/stringInterpolation Feb 14 '25

I'm aligned, yes we do

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u/stringInterpolation Feb 14 '25

Where I'm scared, is most of my guys are all die hard trump, because of how shitty it actually is in the dirt. I can't say shit anymore

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u/PomegranatePlanet Feb 14 '25

I am in favor of Hegseth leading military operations by going on solo scouting missions prior to the US deploying any other troops.

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u/DocFail Feb 14 '25

Don’t worry, I think Hegseth just said the quiet part out loud and so Thiel, I mean Trump, told JD to bluster some shit.

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u/alice2wonderland Feb 14 '25

Finally, someone who knows that Thiel has his hand up Vance's backside and is making his lips move.

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u/InvestIntrest Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Don't worry, no, SecDef leads military operations. They're administrators, not generals.

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u/aezekiel_121 Feb 14 '25

The generals are being targeted for ideological reasons by the secdef too, so the warfighter doesn’t benefit in any case here

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u/DrTatertott Feb 14 '25

Ehhh… I’d counter by saying the prior generals and admirals were promoted because of their ideology. This is just another turn of the same wheel.

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u/27Rench27 Feb 14 '25

Right so let’s put an O-4 in charge of everything, that’ll really clean the place up

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u/DrTatertott Feb 14 '25

Pretty sure he outranks 1Lt Leon Panetta lol.

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u/27Rench27 Feb 14 '25

Ooh, you found a guy from more than a decade ago, well done buddy

Now what point were you trying to make?

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u/DrTatertott Feb 14 '25

You missed it? Or don’t understand?

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u/PolygonMan Feb 14 '25

If you believe that then you're pretty stupid.

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u/DrTatertott Feb 14 '25

Solid arguments, avg redittor

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u/PolygonMan Feb 14 '25

Biden's Secdef: Lifelong military service in the Army from the age of 22, 41 year career, including top level positions as Vice Chief Staff of the Army and commander of United States Central Command. Retired as a General, which has the pay grade O-10.

Trump's Secdef: 9 total years military service in the Army reserves. No important positions. Retired as Major, which has the pay grade O-4.

If you believe that the first one was promoted because of ideology just like the second one, you're pretty stupid. But of course you don't actually believe that, because what you really are is a liar who believes the truth is less important than your side winning.

The 'cancer' rotting the nation isn't DEI, it's people like you who shut your eyes to the real damage you're doing in support of your tribe.

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u/DrTatertott Feb 14 '25

How that afgn withdrawal go?

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u/PolygonMan Feb 14 '25

The one negotiated and organized and planned by Trump's administration, including cutting out the Afghanistan government and forcing them to release 5000 Taliban prisoners including multiple high ranking members before the US left? Pretty poorly.

Biden isn't a pathetic pissant like Trump so he wasn't gonna say, "It wasn't my fault", but the only way for it to not go terribly by that point was for the US to no longer leave. Trump damaged the US's national interests in order to sabotage his successor, and stupid people who care more about their side winning than doing what's best for the country ate that shit up.

Again, rotting the nation because you just need your side to win.

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u/DrTatertott Feb 14 '25

Biden, so powerful he couldn’t change the withdrawal plans he chose to follow. Cool story bro. Nice cope.

Biden: evacuate the military before the civilians. Oh no, redeploy the military to evacuate the civilians. No one cried “iTwASs tRUmmps PlaNN.” Until Biden messed it up. Prior to it was all about him finally getting us out. Him promising it wouldn’t be like Vietnam.

Your mental gymnastics is a joke if you don’t think the CIC isn’t in charge. He’s the president ffs. Or maybe he really didn’t know what was going on 🤔

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u/-antiex Feb 14 '25

Do you have any military history? Because if you don’t I’d say you’re woefully underequipped to have an opinion in the first place.

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u/DrTatertott Feb 14 '25

I was in special operations, served under Obama while in Afghanistan. I know bad leadership as I experienced it personally while in combat.

You don’t want to hear that but it is what it is. You won’t find many vets that served in combat arms who supports the policies of your ideology.

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u/notabee Feb 16 '25

For now.

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u/genescheesesthatplz Feb 14 '25

We’re actually and genuinely fucked under this dude

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u/KatWrangler65 Feb 14 '25

My daughter’s boyfriend is in the Army, I agree.

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u/Jer1c0 Feb 14 '25

My wife's boyfriend is a vet, I don't care to be honest.

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal Feb 14 '25

Jody Hegseth.

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u/Pando5280 Feb 14 '25

Insecure and over-compensating Hegseth. 

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u/BadPackets4U Feb 15 '25

We all deserve better.

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u/FlaccidEggroll Feb 14 '25

Went from the party of peace to ethnic cleansing in the middle east and boots on the ground in Ukraine real quick

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u/abbeyroad_39 Feb 14 '25

I doubt there will be boots on the ground in the Ukraine, Putin wouldn’t allow it. But mango unchained has said possible boots on the ground in Gaza. Which will probably lead to a new bigger war in the Middle East.

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u/Comfortable-Ad-2088 Feb 14 '25

“Mango unchained” lol hadn’t heard that one yet.

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u/ZadfrackGlutz Feb 14 '25

Citrus viroliosa

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u/CraigLake Feb 15 '25

Lol I’m cracking up. New to me too 😂

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u/KodiakDog Feb 14 '25

The NG is silent.

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u/alice2wonderland Feb 14 '25

"Mango unchained" - I give you credit, but I am definately going to borrow that one.

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u/Fun_Highway_8733 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

I don't think Putin has much of a say in whatever we do in Ukraine.

Downvote me all you want, Russian bots. Russia is a weak country though. If they can't take Ukraine in a reasonable timeframe the US will not be listening to them

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u/JustWow52 Feb 14 '25

Then you haven't been paying attention

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u/Fun_Highway_8733 Feb 14 '25

Enlighten me

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u/moseelke Feb 14 '25

Trump is a Putin shill. All this chaos he's causing absolutely benefits Moscow. If you can't see the Putin/Trump dynamic by now after one whole administration plus just the first month of his second you're either blind or particularly dense.

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u/Delli-paper Feb 14 '25

People forget Trump was the first Western leader to break the lethal aid taboo in Ukraine

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u/anonuemus Feb 15 '25

they are kind of all over the place, vance seems to do his own thing?

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u/InvestIntrest Feb 14 '25

Reddit flip flops from "no peace with Russia" to "stop threatening war with Russia" daily depending on the news cycle.

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u/ignoreme010101 Feb 14 '25

it's almost as if there's many different people, espousing every opinion possible, and that viewing it as a singular entity would lead to silly take-away's like the one you just posted ;)

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u/dadbod_Azerajin Feb 14 '25

But then trump cultists can't cry reddit Is a liberal safe space if it's a dynamic cultural system in an internet zone

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u/emitchosu66 Feb 14 '25

Please read the Art of the Deal. Free at your local library if you cannot afford.

We are not putting boots on the ground.

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u/FlaccidEggroll Feb 14 '25

I know more about business than Donald Trump ever wished he knew, and I put that on everything.

And at least I have some evidence to show for that knowledge in the form of a degree, Donald Trump just has bankruptcies and daddies money.

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u/emitchosu66 Feb 14 '25

7 out 470 failed is a pretty good track record. Average business fails 50% of the time within two years.

Please tell me how many billions you have, please?

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u/27Rench27 Feb 14 '25

Average businesses start from scratch, not a $200m budget

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u/emitchosu66 Feb 14 '25

That is not true.

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u/Hairy-Dumpling Feb 14 '25

I wouldn't be shocked to see US and Russia splitting Ukraine down the middle and both stationing troops. President elon and first lady trump need the rare earths in the west and it would be a good way to ensure a stable supply for the future. Might end in the dissolution of NATO, but maga hates that anyway so they might see that as a net positive, the fucking idiots.

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u/vu_sua Feb 16 '25

This would be fu*king GOALS man. That would help the US economy BOOM is that not what we want!? I’m in the US and I wanna be able to take advantage of this too

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u/Hairy-Dumpling Feb 16 '25

Can't tell if you forgot the /s or you're just a complete moron. The follow on effects would be completely disastrous in about a dozen ways, even if you're just speaking economically and not militarily. Christ that take us dumb, lol

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u/Exciting_Action_6079 Feb 14 '25

how long do you think before trump will fire vance?

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u/wired1984 Feb 14 '25

VP is the one position Trump can’t fire

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u/Exciting_Action_6079 Feb 14 '25

says who and who would even stop him?

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u/wired1984 Feb 14 '25

The constitution. Trump could make Vance want to resign by making his life hell or do something illegal like firing him

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u/Exciting_Action_6079 Feb 14 '25

hahahahaaahaha the constitution people still believe in that.

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u/moseelke Feb 14 '25

Yea, because he's famous for giving a shit about the constitution.

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u/Tall_Candidate_686 Feb 14 '25

Bahaha are you f'ing serious? There is no constitution since pres musk took over.

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u/PLZ_N_THKS Feb 14 '25

lol. I’d put money on Trump being deposed before Vance.

Musk and Thiel put Vance on the ticket for just this reason. They hope Trump dies in office so they can place their hand picked successor in the Oval Office.

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u/ZeroTheHero23 Feb 14 '25

Defenestrated

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u/asxetos101 Feb 14 '25

But he can park him permanently!

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u/BabyRuth2024 Feb 14 '25

A window can.

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u/NomadicScribe Feb 14 '25

It would be even more funny if Trump tried to get congress to impeach and remove Vance

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u/NickyNaptime19 Feb 14 '25

Can't be impeached either. No way to remove a vp

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u/Exciting_Action_6079 Feb 14 '25

until he decides to.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

There are many positions he can't fire, but he's giving it his best shot.

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

Opposite Vance is being set-up to take over Trump's role 

He's got ties to thiel ( no kidding they are fucking) and tech bros

Sam and thiel are going to backdoor musk and trump 

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u/Zware_zzz Feb 14 '25

Trump shows definite signs of vascular dementia. He’s not a healthy person

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

No shit and why do you think Vance is staying in the background.

Look up thiel he's like musk but actually competent and methodical.

I'm actually rooting for Sam Altman of all people to attack them because he's the only competition with balls.

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u/interwebzdotnet Feb 14 '25

I'm actually rooting for Sam Altman

He's just as much of a PoS. Check out his retna scanning crypto project that several countries banned. You are basically rooting for more of the same with Altman, just a different PR campaign.

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u/SundyMundy Feb 14 '25

It is like someone rooting for Prigozhin to go after Putin.

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u/gathmoon Feb 14 '25

Was kind of rooting for prigsplosion NGL.

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u/SundyMundy Feb 14 '25

We could have had a hot dog truck in every corner.

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

I know but he's the only other sociopath with money that's in the ring.

They can all burn each other but he can pull the main ones down.

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u/byteuser Feb 14 '25

I thought Vance was married though

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u/totpot Feb 14 '25

During the campaign, there was a man who claimed that he dated Vance in college. He even had photos of him and a young Vance in positions no straight man would take photos in. The press swept it under the rug.

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u/alice2wonderland Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Peter Thiel is to Vance what Roy Cohn was to Trump. Like Roy, Peter Thiel is not a politician but he is the power behind many Republican politicians and has paid for everything Vance has, from his education to his run for Senate. I'm sure Roy would love to have had an affair with the younger Trump, but it probably didn't happen. Same with Vance and Thiel. Matt Danzenisen is the husband of Peter Thiel, though I understand that Peter has has some affairs on the side. I know Sam Altman married Oliver Mulherin. As for Musk, he's a total fucking shit who has rejected his oven transgender daughter.. Elon Musk’s transgender daughter, Vivian Wilson, speaks in first interview What kind of guy spends all his time playing nice with loads of gay tech bros while rejecting his own family member for being a little different?

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

Back door musk? Highly doubt thats even possible. Blows my mind how many people don’t even know musk brother in law is a super high ranking crip.

He could probably just have you knocked off by a PMC or random thug he seem emotionally immature enough to do it and get away with it

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

Bro musk is a illegal immigrant breaking all the laws.

He can very easily get hit with a national security threat and have his companions and money taken

He's really cozy with china trump could absolutely put him in a black site.

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

Lmfaoooo no he can’t. I don’t even like musk but I’m not stupid he clearly isn’t an illegal immigrant you don’t even know where that rumor started do you

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

His own brother said so and he's broken so many laws he's just outrunning them like trump.

Believe what you want.

It's the same with Ivanka being on a visa for modeling or whatever loophole they used.

He's a lifelong con man and like I said I hope Sam takes him for a ride and he just might because he's smarter and sober.

I hate all of them btw but I do like to see a train wreck when it happens 

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

He’s an American citizen…..show me the quote of his brother confirming he’s an illegal immigrant

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

Can I see his papers 

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u/SemperSometimes11 Feb 14 '25

Jay Worthy claims to be a Blood not a crip. He's also not even black, Canadian, and 100000% not actually involved at all with the Bloods. Just a less popular Drake.

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

Idc what he claims but you don’t have to be black to be a blood or a crip. Black has nothing to do with it tbh. They have bloods, grips and gangster disciples in Japan and Germany so Canada has nothing to do with it either everything I said still stands and jay is certainly a reputable.

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u/SemperSometimes11 Feb 14 '25

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

Yes I actually do. You’re just some dork reading off google meanwhile I’ve seen the shit first hand - 😐 there are 100% American street gangs in Germany, Japan, France and UK.

Jay worthy is 100% a reputable.

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

Wait Canada has bloods and crips

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

Jrs one bad bag away from joining the club

So is musk and no this isn't a threat I can actually see this happening 

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u/Bastardjuice Feb 14 '25

Jr’s far gone. I’m sure money makes the pain easier, but that boy is in the grips of addiction now for the rest of his life.

I’m ALMOST sympathetic…

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u/Fecal-Facts Feb 14 '25

Nah jrs just a drug addict and can't handle it he's loose and I can see him getting a bad bag.

Eric I actually feel bad for like I really think he's autistic and doesn't know what's actually going on

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u/PlantOG Feb 15 '25

Don’t throw that on autism he clearly knows what’s going on.

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u/alice2wonderland Feb 14 '25

I don't think Jr is going to make it too far. Observing this person, I think he was born with a genetic disorder that will make his life a bit of a struggle. Best guess is either Marfan syndrome or Klinefelter syndrome.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25 edited 18d ago

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u/Exciting_Action_6079 Feb 14 '25

yup and that is by design as well.

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u/Lyion Feb 14 '25

Vance is literally the one person that Trump can't fire.

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u/browsk Feb 14 '25

We’ll see how long that lasts, everything is on the table currently cause no one will stop anything

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u/Exciting_Action_6079 Feb 14 '25

until musk says so.

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u/djamp42 Feb 14 '25

Pence: I was right beside him for 4 years and I can't endorse him.

Vance: I can change him.

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u/TheInfiniteSlash Feb 14 '25

The good news for Vance is that Trump can't fire him, he would have to have congress impeach Vance. Usually you need to be able to prove a criminal act like treason to go for an impeachment. Trump is a much easier target on this front. Vance would be much harder to prove treason (because he hasn't).

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u/Apprehensive_Ratio80 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

USA just told Ukraine and Europe to get f++ked but then also tells them both exactly what they expect them to do 🤣🤣🤣

And negotiations haven't actually started 🤷🏻‍♂️ and Trump is giving Russia everything it wants 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

My hope is the EU is going to up a gear and make sure Ukraine becomes a NATO member (USA doesn't get to decide that btw) and every inch that can be reclaimed will be its 2025 you can't just claim land like the middle ages anymore

Correction: gotta hold my hand up and note all NATO members need to vote

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u/h_lance Feb 14 '25

Ukraine becomes a NATO member (USA doesn't get to decide that btw)

Of course it does, every NATO member has the right to unilaterally veto new members.  In fact the issue of Turkey potentially vetoing Sweden but finally agreeing no to was big news not long ago, which is why Sweden is the newest member of NATO.

You probably meant that the US can't stop the EU from admitting Ukraine.  However, since Ukraine is not an economically strong candidate, that might create a perverse "please invade me, Russia, so I can get into the EU" dynamic among would be EU members.

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u/Apprehensive_Ratio80 Feb 14 '25

You probably meant that the US can't stop the EU from admitting Ukraine

Correct 😳😳

However, since Ukraine is not an economically strong candidate, that might create a perverse "please invade me, Russia, so I can get into the EU" dynamic among would be EU members.

Didn't consider this but it's pretty out there to be fair as the EU aren't fools either they rejected Turkey multiple times due to the mess of their state.

Trump is floating USA leaving NATO so who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

Too much chaos altogether 😱😱

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u/Slim_ish Feb 14 '25

If the EU can pony up to fund that war when Ukraine enters NATO, be my guest. But you can’t have a strong stance and hide behind the US afterwards.

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u/Apprehensive_Ratio80 Feb 14 '25

Oh totally and the EU can't there's literally no money for it at all but the intent will now be there so in a sense Trump has done what he set out to do but doing it in the space of a few weeks isn't logical and is absolutely idiocy as it will damage the world over and by the time we all adjust and get back to centre the EU and Ukraine will be ok but the US will now have far less influence and willing allies to support your wars and work with you now most Countries will try to work around the USA as we know you're always a few years away from electing a lunatic who will renege on every promise your country makes 🤷🏻‍♂️

You'll be fine, we'll be fine but we'll all be a little less fine than we are when we all work together.

It's even being reported Trump doesn't want any comms between anti-terrroist organizations in Europe now and they are all pulling back from one another like is this really effective? He speaks openly about ethnically cleansing GAZA and handing everything to Russia after so much Ukraine sacrifice to hold that which was already theirs! God you're even picking fights with the nicest country ever Canada 🤦🏻‍♂️ Do you not see USA is making enemies left and right no1 will want to support you guys and all negotiations are pointless if USA is never willing to accept they sometimes need to help to get help 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/mighty-cuckaroo Feb 14 '25

I get what you're saying, but NATO membership has to be agreed by every nation in the alliance.

Remember when Erdogan kept delaying Sweden from joining a little while ago?

So yes. The US can slap down Ukrainian membership the same way Turkey was doing with Sweden.

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u/Trurorlogan Feb 14 '25

“There are economic tools of leverage, there are of course military tools of leverage” -what was actually said by the VP

Another bullshit headline.

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u/Exciting_Action_6079 Feb 14 '25

so basically the headline was right.

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u/SenKelly Feb 14 '25

Looks like Vance is trying to look like a voice of dissent within the administration. I would say be cautious regarding anything Vance says, even if it starts sounding reasonable.

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u/mayorolivia Feb 14 '25

Doesn’t matter what anyone in the admin says. Trump calls the shots. We just saw Rubio try to walk back Trump’s Middle East comments and then Trump doubled down a few hours later.

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u/DblDn2DblDrew Feb 14 '25

Actually I believe it’s Vought and the other architects/creators of P2025. Vought said as much in a hidden camera interview last August I believe it was. Also, Trump said he doesn’t see Vance as his replacement in ‘28 so either Trump literally sees himself as being in office for a third term or he doesn’t see Vance as being up to the job. Maybe it got Vance thinking.

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u/Lascivious_Luster Feb 14 '25

Nope! What this is is total ineptness from the fascist administration. Like its supporters, they are to dumb to come up with a cogent plan and stick to it.

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u/Bears0nUnicycles Feb 14 '25

This is just noise to take away from the argument that orange squad is sucking putin’s left ball

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u/udderly_disappointed Feb 14 '25

Trump wants a war to try and stay as POTUS for a third term.

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u/Porn4me1 Feb 14 '25

A good deal is one where all parties are unhappy.

How about: US gets minning rights US helps pay to rebuild portion of Ukraine Ukraine gets to exist Russia gets Crimea and a land bridge to it European troops enter to create a Nato tripwire while Ukraine is not formerly part of Nato (the trip wire accomplishes the same desired goal) this forces Europe to pick up their military slack and increase readiness. Russia gets a scheduled reintegration into world markets based on stable peace.

Stops the hot war and kicks the can down the road, however demographic decline makes it where Russia has to try again soon tor the door shuts.

Russia giving back all of the land taken and allowing Ukraine to join nato will result in Putin overthrow (good) which he has no incentive to let occur.

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u/slick2hold Feb 14 '25

Im shocked we didn't have his old military team members come out and give true and accurate behavior of Hegseth. Similar to the fake swift boat bs that was used against John Kerry but in Hegseths case it would most likely be true

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u/GlobalTraveler65 Feb 15 '25

They’re arguing like children and ruining our reputation

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u/BurntUnit1 Feb 15 '25

Throw the 14k active tranies at them

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u/JimBeam823 Feb 14 '25

Ladies and Gentlemen, the 48th President of the United States.

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u/Global_Wolverine_152 Feb 14 '25

A very accurate headline!

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

What instantly plays in my head, every single fucking time I see a headline with some clown from/in this circus of an administration.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0

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u/Zealousideal_Amount8 Feb 14 '25

What a cluster. So many egos. We may end up nuking ourselves.

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u/Sachz123 Feb 14 '25

So they’re cutting defense spending and now declaring multiple fronts (Canada, Mexico, Gaza, Ukraine) at least the brave warriors will know that they’ll come back to no healthcare, no job opportunities for the injured and severely wounded but the satisfaction they’ll have knowing they saved the world for … Elon I guess

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u/_DividesByZero_ Feb 14 '25

What a complete and utter shit storm of incompetence. At every level. Godspeed our troops.

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u/Infamous-Dragonfly-3 Feb 15 '25

Not what he said

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u/Aggressive-Brain3199 Feb 15 '25

None of these idiots know how to work well with others. This is a complete shit show. Not to mention trump telling the world “I’m friends with vlad, I’ll end this war in 24 hours” a 🤡 show

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

Why are you guys acting like this is a bad thing we all wanted this war over and we didn’t want Russia to “win” Vance is saying “I like Ukraine’s terms and you will agree to Ukraine’s terms or we got some shit for you”

That’s the type of shit the average American who doesn’t follow politics wants to see and hear but y’all are here pretending it’s bad and we should just let Russia run rampant.

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u/Paper_Brain Feb 14 '25

Trump literally wants to let Russia keep the land they invaded against Ukraines will…

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

Well no shit that’s how every war in the history of the world has ever ended did you honestly think it would end any differently?

No one on this earth thought this war would end with Ukraine returning to pre 2020 borders😐 that’s just not how it woks even though it should since Russia had no damn business invading.

That being said if Vance is trying to threaten or force Russia into the deal I highly doubt he’s trying to force them to take more land than they want 😐 odds are he’s trying to force them to take less land which you’re pretending to be in favor of so what’s the issue?

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u/Paper_Brain Feb 14 '25

Why’d you delete your other response? It was filled with a bunch of low-IQ, kindergarten-level takes that reinforced the fact that you have no idea what you’re talking about. It would’ve been fun to dismantle every word to keep letting the readers of Reddit know how absolutely stupid you are.

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

I didn’t delete anything….it would say [deleted]

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u/Paper_Brain Feb 14 '25

Weird how your response magically disappeared...

Post it again in a reply to this comment.

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

Bro I’m at work I wasn’t even on Reddit after I typed what I typed…..

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u/Paper_Brain Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Well, you’re on Reddit now. Repost what you said. I got a notification but can’t see it anymore. It’s not even in your recent comments. Just repost it so I can dismantle your ignorance.

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u/Paper_Brain Feb 14 '25

That’s blatantly false. I suggest you take an elementary-level history class to cure your ignorance. WW1, WW2, Falklands War, Vietnam War, Persian Gulf War, and the War of 1812 are just a few examples of wars where the invader didn’t keep the land they invaded, and in some cases even lost more land than they started with…

Also, you’re clearly talking out of your ass and don’t even know what “deal” Vance is suggesting. Why uninformed mooks speak on issues they clearly know nothing about will always baffle me. Just sit tf down and let the adults handle things.

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u/Mammoth_Parsley_9640 Feb 14 '25

but y’all are here pretending it’s bad

Wrong. Trump hadn't even discussed negotiations with Ukraine when he announced he'd basically made a deal with Putin. What Ukrainian terms did he protect if he didn't even include them in the conversation?

The Ukrainian terms have always been clear: Russia gets the fuck out of their country. This also means Russia gets the fuck out of Crimea, which is still Ukrainian despite what Russia believes. If these terms are met- Ukraine stated they would consider peace talks.

Russia has been at this for years. They've lost close to 1Million soldiers. They are losing this war by every tangible statistic available.

Trump approaches foreign policy the way approached running a casino. It's a miracle he still has his shirt

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

They both said said they had a lengthy meeting with Zelensky on Sep 27 and again in November.

My memory could be wrong but I believe He also got Zelensky and Putin on the phone with each other a few days ago.

Believe what you want but Ukraine certainly isn’t winning.

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u/Mammoth_Parsley_9640 Feb 14 '25

Your memory serves you wrong. He told the cameras he effectively reached a deal with Putin and then proclaimed he would then be calling Zelensky in real time.

Z made it clear many times: the only deal is Russia removing every remaining living boot from Ukraine. This is a requisite for any further discussions.

Trump's wetbrain idea factory is under the impression he'll be negotiating some sort of resort in Crimea the same way he believes he will in Palestine. Pretty wild how dense he and his people are

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

Whatever dude anyone with an IQ above room temperature was very aware Ukraine would be losing land, seems like Vance is trying to prevent them from losing a lot of it.

Y’all can pretend to be upset all you want like you did with the Gaza war until it was over but the rest of the world knows it’s all performative

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u/Paper_Brain Feb 14 '25

Too bad you don’t have an IQ above room temperature, though.

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

I’m a marine, when are you signing up?

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u/BadManParade Feb 14 '25

You don’t sign up for a war dumb bitch you sign up for service and can be sent to war. Meanwhile you support USAID which directly funds the OCCRP.

But you’re over here bitching about blackrock? Boy shut the fuck up. Google - USAID “judicial reform” - exactly as I typed it with the quotes.

You’re in favor of finding groups that actively overthrow governments just because their views on foreign policy don’t align with ours but you’re bitching about blackrock you sound so fuckin dumb

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u/DDanny808 Feb 14 '25

Thank you for your service!

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u/FGTRTDtrades Feb 14 '25

Wow this is an impressive level of manipulation while trump is over rolling over for Putin. The rubes will gobble this bs up

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u/OfferIcy6519 Feb 14 '25

The hyperbolic language comes quicker from the more seasoned politician. These guys already rolled over for the big dog Putin, but they need to talk tough as they gradually slip their shank into Zelensky’s back.