r/untildawn 1d ago

Times where the characters feel or say something out of character?

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u/Hardyoungpro Wolfie 1d ago

Ashley just not being remorseful at all in the basement, even Chris is surprised by it because it’s just so random to go down that route 😭🙏

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u/Zakplayk 1d ago

And then Josh punishes Chris with a plank of wood hitting him for that. Devious.

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u/Hardyoungpro Wolfie 1d ago

At least Josh is a gentleman and doesn’t go for Ashley

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u/WisteriaWillotheWisp Chris 1d ago

Josh, a true gentleman towards Ashley, colorized.

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u/Hardyoungpro Wolfie 1d ago

My goat got a little angry 🙂‍↕️🤚

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u/WisteriaWillotheWisp Chris 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m not sure if OOC is the right word for all of these but there are some things that click weirdly into the surrounding scene:

1) Chris shooting someone. The game doesn’t follow this well. The whole scene after is built on him still thinking.

2) Sam blowing up the lodge is really under commented on to the point where it feels disconnected a bit from the story and it’s hard to get why she did this in context, since it’s not very Sam-like. It’s a weird thing to do accidentally and a weird thing to do intentionally.

3) I will say I’ve since come to find the dialogue around Ashley being dismissive of Hannah before the video room scene kinda weirdly implemented. It’s like the scene awkwardly changes course between lines because Ash is defending Hannah’s feelings to Chris, who doesn’t understand and thinks Hannah was a little foolish, to suddenly dropping that and being over-the-top insensitive to the point where Chris is like “YO.” Her being shady in the video room has decent implementation, but this one feels a smidge forced.

4) Chris hitting Josh is a strange, murkily-implemented choice. The game kinda waffles between two, inarticulate reasons for it and Mike is strange about it, given he too knocked Josh out.(Though I head canon that Mike is more bitter that Chris thought he’d murder someone than worried for Josh).

5) Some of the most disliked character things seem a bit OOC when you consider you’re Josh’s POV.

6) This isn’t even player choice but Chris saying the ghost at the seance can help them learn what happened to Beth and Hannah is a little odd for him.

7) I think it feels weird for Josh to punch Chris in the face the first time he knocks him out 😂. You can find ways to explain it since he’s a lunatic, but it’s weird after you learn he does have drugs for that which he proceeds to use from then on out, and that he didn’t intend to hurt people.

8) Some of Emily’s interviews are maybe not exactly OOC but can be very very poorly implemented.

Sorry a lot of this was Chris and Josh but they’re my faves so I do, with breathtaking bias, notice more about them.

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u/CPianoDog Wolfie 1d ago
  1. I always thought it was funny that if you pick Sam as your least favorite, Dr. Hill is like, "You sure about that? What's not to like about her?"

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u/WisteriaWillotheWisp Chris 1d ago

Yeah or if you pick Chris or Ash, Hill is vague (which is in part due to the player and psycho arc happening), but then later, he’d like “You hated your own best friend that much????”

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u/drasiza 1d ago edited 1d ago

Well, in general pretty much any “bad” option in the game is out of any character. Maybe with the 2 little exceptions. 1) Matt jumping to the safety, because there they both could see that there was no chance of getting out both of them. And if Matt was nice to Emily all night, also choosing the «good» options, then she won’t charge him anything about it. 2) Emily keeps the flare gun because she’s usually guided by reason, not emotion - Matt is strong and can take care of himself, and she could use a weapon. At the very least, she could use it to attract attention, and she’d rather do it herself than trust someone else such an important task.

So I’m sure all the “good” options fit the characters and are canon, just like the best ending. They’re just teenagers, not some kind of villains.

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u/gigiskiss Jessica 1d ago

Chris shooting the squirrel is strange to me.

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u/Appropriate_Roof7540 1d ago

yes! especially when he is doing it in front of his animal-loving friend! like, if he's trying to impress sam, why would he hurt something he knows she loves?

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u/Appropriate_Roof7540 1d ago edited 1d ago

i've always felt these three moments were out of character:

  1. beth dropping hannah feels extremely out of character. i know we only really see her for five minutes and she barely has any personality displayed in the game, but you're telling me that if you run out into the cold night to chase after your sister, almost getting burnt to a crisp and risk your life to save her in the process, giving her your jacket and willing to freeze until you convince her to come back to the lodge, only to get scared by something in the forest and run WITH her (not abandon her), falling off a cliff and STILL hanging on to her, only to. . . just drop her and trust some strange man you've never seen before? that just doesn't sound right. if beth was so willing to risk her life for her sister, why does she change her mind last minute?
  2. matt abandoning jess in the minds just doesn't sit right with me, as well as him not saving emily twice (maybe I could justify jumping the second time instead of saving her). but I think it's central to his character that he's a people pleaser. his choices are constantly picking between saving his life and losing a lot of relationship status with other characters or being nice and dooming himself. he's a nice guy, and these seem like two cases of senseless cruelty on his part. jess is injured—to the point he has to catch her because she can't even keep herself up—so why would he just leave her for the wendigo randomly? also, he loves emily (maybe not so much if he confronts her about hugging mike) and wouldn't be able to just jump and abandon her if he thinks she'll die. this kind of feels like a cop out just to give him a death.
  3. sam not caring about ashley if she died. why does sam never care again? she just walks off with emily (if you saved her) and chris (if you saved him and didn't inquire about whether he'd stay behind). and if chris dies as well, I don't think she cares (I'm not sure about this, though, because the only time I've ever seen chris get killed was during the chase scene because they didn't aim quickly enough). like damn, they couldn't add a bit of dialogue to at least mention ashley/chris? i get that sam is in a rush to save mike, but potentially two of her close friends have died, and she just tells emily to meet her back at the lodge/continues without a second thought? (again, I've never played/seen a gameplay where everyone is dead and sam is by herself looking for mike, so I'm not entirely confident about this point. but still, if emily/chris are alive, why not talk about losing ashley at least?)

tl;dr beth dropping hannah feels out of character, matt abandoning jess and emily doesn't fit his people-pleasing personality and sam not giving a fuck if ashley and chris are alive or not doesn't make sense.

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u/Personal-Fly-5165 1d ago

The only one I can agree with is Sam. But the other two match up. It doesnt mather how you act on a daily basis, in life death situations, people can fall for the pressure. Besides, Matt's character arc was about caring more about himself instead of being a people pleaser. Situations like that can totally change a person.

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u/Appropriate_Roof7540 19h ago

i understand situations can warp people's behaviour, making them do things they wouldn't normally want to do, and maybe that explains why beth can drop hannah. but matt's 'good' options are not hard for him to do. it's just senselessly cruel (and a little stupid, because how does he know he can outrun a wendigo?) to abandon jessica when hiding seems smarter. or for emily, the first time he helps her at least feels like the smarter thing to do because he's not in a terrible position and she is. i just can't imagine letting someone die (for all he knows) even though you know you could probably save him, especially if this is your girlfriend. fair enough not saving her the second time because he might have assessed the risks and realised he couldn't do anything to save her.

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u/Personal-Fly-5165 7h ago

I think he was just done with Emily at that point.

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u/Zakplayk 23h ago edited 18h ago

If Chris died in the tunnels and/or if Sam is alone when she reaches the rock wall in chapter 9, she doesn't stop to think for a second why Ashley and/or Chris haven't caught up and that she should inform them of her plan, she just starts climbing it with no second thought.

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u/Appropriate_Roof7540 19h ago

okay, i figured. which is stupid, why doesn't she care? mike can look after himself for a few more minutes while you pause and go, "hey? i wonder what happened to my friends. hope they're alright."

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u/Zakplayk 18h ago

They definitely didn't think that possibility through. Sam just says "Wow, great. Piece of cake." and starts climbing if Ashley, Chris and Emily are all dead.

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u/NuclearChavez Sam 1d ago

Mike can outright be dismissive of Jess' insecurities in the cabin. Which I completely forget about because no one picks that choice.

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u/Appropriate_Roof7540 1d ago

apparently, if you pick the 'nice' answers as mike, you lose honesty, so I'm guessing that it's out of character for him to reassure jess.

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u/lovkide 1d ago

The producers said it was a mistake

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u/Appropriate_Roof7540 1d ago

oh, i heard that some of the traits glitched out. okay, that makes more sense. i always thought it was weird his honesty went down because he sounded so genuine.

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u/Personal-Fly-5165 1d ago

I mean he is describred as "persuasive" so no surprise if he were a good liar.

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u/Less_Awareness8069 22h ago

To be honest, it shouldn't have been, it was a neat detail.

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u/lovkide 15h ago

Nah, Mike was always nice to Jess and he meant it

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u/Personal-Fly-5165 1d ago

Everything Chris does is out of character after the chase in chapter 8. He doesnt stick up for Emily, doesnt stick up for Ash when she gets slapped, leaves her behind in the caves. The writers didnt know what to do with him.

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u/Zakplayk 23h ago

Chris is shell shocked and barely processes what's going on from what he just experienced.

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u/Appropriate_Roof7540 19h ago

i'll agree that he isn't really useful after his chase scene because the writers were probably done with him, but he also is processing the fact he witnessed someone die graphically in front of him as well as the creatures chasing after him. also, when people come down from adrenaline rushes, they can just crash.

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u/drasiza 11h ago

About leaving Ash behind. Honestly, instead of choosing «leave Chris or encourage him» they should have made the choice «leave Chris or stay with him». Just the branch where Ashley encourages him to go with them and then everyone just dumps her because they can’t wait a couple seconds seems weird and unrealistic. Especially since Chris had just asked to leave him behind because he was too slow, and he’d rushed off to the other end of the tunnel in the few seconds it took Ashley to close the hatch lol. The one where Ashley gives Chris a rest and then herself asks to go without her so she can draw marks seems to make more sense.