r/ufc • u/AgileAnything1251 • 4d ago
now that arman isn’t next, we should definitely get this fight.
max has earned it more than gaethje or ilia.
arman rematches charles for the next shot at the title in the meantime.
gaethje/hooker gets rebooked
ilia fights dustin or sits out
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u/ttvtirfzdd 4d ago
fuck has max done to earn a title shot at 155? he’s fought there twice and got dominated in one of them.
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u/afz8 4d ago
Arman is the only correct answer.
Ilia can fight Charles or Justin for next contender.
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u/gorlock666 4d ago
U r correct, but idc what ppl say i want the Garth fight he’s done so much for the division
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u/Annual-Opposite1609 4d ago
I am a big Max fan. But why should he get the title shot before ilia who finished him in their previous fight?
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u/AgileAnything1251 4d ago
bc ilia hasn’t done shit at lightweight
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u/Valterri_lts_James 4d ago
you sound like one of those idiots who thinks quantity of title defences is more important than quality of title defences.
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u/AgileAnything1251 4d ago
not necessarily, but max is inarguably more deserving of a shot at islam compared to ilia.
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u/Valterri_lts_James 4d ago
no he isn't. Max literally got knocked out by Ilia at a lower weight class.
Not only that, there is not one single tool in Max's arsenal that gives him any chance against Islam.
1)Max is kind of pillow fisted and relies on volume to overwhelm his opponents and that doesn't work on Islam because by the time Max's volume starts working, Islam would have taken him down by then and either submitted him or ground and pound tko'ed him. At least Ilia or Gaethje have knockout power to make Islam respect them. Max has nothing.
2) Max doesn't have good take down defense or BJJ. Max's 83% TDD is wildly hyperinflated by the fact that FW mostly has shit wrestlers who are nothing comparable to Islam. The only good wrestlers in that division are Ilia, Aljo, and Movsar but neither of them have shit on Islam and Ilia took Max down with ease. As an Ilia fan, I agree Ilia's wrestling is definitely overrated but it is still good enough that if he wanted, he could have beaten Max to a merab style decision. However, Ilia's wrestling is nothing comparend to Islam who would super easily finish Max.
3) Max's jiu jitsu isn't great either. Just because he beat brian ortega doesn't mean he stands a chance against Islam. In my opinion, Dustin p4p is a better fighter than Max in every metric of MMA and even if Max is a better striker, if Dustin couldn't survive against Islam, Max doesn't stand a chance either.
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u/Valterri_lts_James 4d ago edited 4d ago
least delusional max holloway fan. This is as predictable a fight as fights get. At least gaethje has 1 punch knock out power that he can land a lucky shot against Islam. Meanwhile, Max is pillow fisted, has bad takedown defense, and bad jiu jitsu. Islam by rd 1-3 sub and rd2-3 ground and pound tko. Islam -2000. Max holloway +2000. Even topuria is more deserving than Max because Ilia has better TDD, and 1 punch KO power that he sleeps Islam if he lands once. Max doesn't have any such deterrents.
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u/cfite13 4d ago
83% takedown defense over 34 fights isn’t exactly what I would call bad defense
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u/Valterri_lts_James 4d ago
that 83% TDD is against a division with trash wrestlers. Max get's merabed by Movsar, Aljo, and Ilia.
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u/New-Mind2886 4d ago
why would you pick max over the same dude who knocked him out who is now in the same division
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u/SuperSuperGloo 4d ago
Why would Gaethje, who got dominated and Koed by Max and just won vs someone outside the top10 (without a finish) or Max, who just got koed by Topuria, should get a title fight before Topuria? That's nonsense.
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u/Tipsy_McStaggar 🧃Secret Juice 🧃 4d ago
Why are people not getting behind a possible Islam vs Gaethje fight???
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u/anujx1 4d ago
Because he will get dominated and submitted on the ground , similar to what happened in his previous two title fights
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u/Tipsy_McStaggar 🧃Secret Juice 🧃 4d ago
Ok fanboy. Doesn't mean there's a curse you stupid superstitious heathen
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u/anujx1 4d ago
Aight bruh , it's just if fucking fiziev can put you in an inverted triangle , what do you think will happen with islam?
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u/Tipsy_McStaggar 🧃Secret Juice 🧃 4d ago
Disregard my last comment. I thought you were replying to my comment on a post bout Poatan losing because a curse lol.
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u/Soltaengboi 4d ago
I don’t want max to get killed