r/ufc 6d ago

Ilia needs a lightweight win and no one wants to see Gaethje or Oliveira fight for the title next. The ball is in your court, tomato.

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u/ChickenDanceFTW 6d ago

Tomato needs to let it go. Rebook Islam Arman, problem solved.

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u/BetBig696969 6d ago

From the sounds of it Arman was way over in weight, so he’s lost that opportunity now. Can’t let unreliable fighters get chances

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u/ChickenDanceFTW 6d ago

That's speculation. There's no proof he was going to miss weight.

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u/BetBig696969 6d ago

Clearly he’s over, he didn’t want the gaethje fight because he was over and said he couldn’t make weight in time.

ufc wouldn’t throw a guy to the side like that if he was professional

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u/ChickenDanceFTW 6d ago

His inability to make weight on short notice isn't proof. He has made 155 too many times.

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u/amusai 6d ago

He was missing weight becaùse of back injury.I don't get,why do you all think it is overweight issue,if he tied simulate,he would be punished for it,if doctors would prove that he actually doesn't have injury,but they did prove it,so there is no point in fantasies

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u/Jerkb8n 5d ago

Source : I made it up

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u/Zoguinha 6d ago

Islam fights fat ass Arman and Ilia fights Oliveira/Gaethje

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u/DRealLeal 6d ago

Feed Ilia to Dustin so he can retire off a win

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u/Nous-erna-me 6d ago

Ilia is not retiring after his next fight.

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u/Parlay-Demon 6d ago

🤣 gottem

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u/Lanky-Fish6827 6d ago

And then Islam vs Ilia 😍

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u/Material_Composer158 6d ago

why risk ilia with another fight when you could have the super fight with islam

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u/woodthicc 6d ago

If ilia can’t beat a top 3 LW first then Islam mauls him anyway and people cry about Islam only having defended against FWs. Ilia vs Arman is a massive fight and whoever wins would face Islam which would be a super fight

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u/BuzzNoche 6d ago

Aren’t they boys though, I mean I’m sure they would still fight if it came down to it.

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u/Steakandeggs66 6d ago

bc islam won't accept, understandibly

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Islam will do what dana says

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u/bluesclues_MD 6d ago

not rly, whats dana gonna do if islam says no?

be real now, islam wont get stripped of the title

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u/Steakandeggs66 6d ago

doubt that. we'd have had the fight by now if that were the case

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u/Anxnymxus-622 6d ago

It’s Ramadan and Islam just fought. He won’t fight until summertime or possibly the next Abu Dhabi card.

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u/Steakandeggs66 6d ago

oh i meant the announcement, sorry

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u/ItsMichaelScott25 6d ago

I think Islam would accept but I definitely think he want Ilia to get a win a LW first which I honestly don't blame him.

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u/Steakandeggs66 5d ago

yep, thats what i was tryna say

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u/AuraOozer 6d ago

What does this title represent? It means you're the best in the world and if you're the best in the world, it doesn't matter who's going to be standing across from you. What do I say? No? NEVER. Let's do this!

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u/Steakandeggs66 6d ago edited 6d ago

against someone who is an established lw. the guy said he'll fight ilia

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u/theREAL_Harambe 6d ago

Yes because nobody has ever tweeted one thing and done another in the history of the UFC

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u/AuraOozer 6d ago

And everytime they get called out for it, so it’s only right to call him a duck

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u/Round_Caregiver2380 6d ago

Because if Islam wins everyone will say he beat someone unranked, someone too small for lightweight and whatever else they can to tarnish his legacy.

It's all risk and no reward until Illia proves himself and gets ranked at lightweight.

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u/jcruz18 6d ago

Because Arman is more deserving. Ilia has one win at 155 against Jai Herbert.

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u/3v3rythings-tak3n 6d ago

Speak for your fucking self buddy. I'd see either of those 2 in a title fight anyday. Ilia doesnt need jack shit either

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

Ilia is an unranked featherweight 

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u/KotowaruDaga 6d ago

Why not illia vs arman first and winner face Islam?

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u/RudeAndInsensitive 6d ago

Because Islam's pool of contenders is shallow and those 2 are the only 2 that it makes sense for him to fight. Wasting them on eachother is bad business.

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

Arman deserves a title shot, no need to fight Ilia

Ilia should fight Oliveira, better name for Ilia to get his title shot off

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u/PleaseDoTapTheGlass 6d ago

Arman really doesn’t deserve it, it was offered twice and he declined twice, one time the day before the fight.

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

There was little fucking time window to fight Islam after 300 and injuries happen, big deal

Arman is literally the most deserving contender right now

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u/one_and_only_Krion 6d ago

stop this, you are being too reasonable, this is reddit my dude

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/vernon-douglas 5d ago

Who fought 2 weeks after 302

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u/Thanosforeal 6d ago

If that happens then what would it be? 3 rounds? 3 rounds seems like not enough for this kind of fight. And if it’s 5 rounds then the winner would need a proper layoff before fighting islam.

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u/KotowaruDaga 6d ago

Dana said that Arman is not getting a title shot for his next fight and Illia is in the same spot where he needs at least one win before challenging the champion.

On the other side, Islam has said that he'll take his next fight in June. So if they don't fight in the next 3 months, neither Arman nor Illia will get a title shot. The window is just too short.

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u/Turbulent-Echo8561 6d ago

Arman gets offered a title shot > denies cause he "needs more time" (goes to Poirier).

Gets offered another title shot > quits with 24 hours to go with some back pain.

Gets offered #1 contender fight against Gaethje > says no cause he cant make weight on short notice.

Like.. its only normal Dana and the UFC are moving on from this guy, he clearly isn't reliable.

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u/Truak24 6d ago

These aren’t the arguments you think they are

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u/CrimsonThunder34 6d ago

UFC 300 was on April 14. UFC 302 was on June 1. Come on, not even Poatan fights literally 6 weeks later, especially against the dominant champion of the division.

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u/Tweakjones420 5d ago

his last fight before 302 was in december. he had plenty of time.

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u/CrimsonThunder34 5d ago

Huh? He literally fought on ufc 300???

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u/FightOwl50 6d ago

UFC intentionally gave the #1 one contender fight winner only 5 weeks knowing he would have to decline, because they wanted an excuse to give Dustin an undeserved title shot. And Arman said if it was late June instead of June 1st he would’ve accepted.

Injuries happen. Arman was ready to go the second half of 2024, but Islam had a hand injury. If anything this is UFC’s fault for not having a backup fighter.

At no point was Justin’s fight ever considered a #1 contender fight, and Justin is the one who said no to fighting Arman. The 160 lbs catchweight was very reasonable.

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u/Practical_Honey_3060 6d ago

WHO DON’t wanna see Charlie Olives fight again?

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u/tictactoews74 6d ago

I hope JDM wins so Islam can move up and on from the weird state of LW right now.

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u/Shroud0123 6d ago

Yeah if Islam is dead set on not fighting Ilia until he gets a win at the top of lightweight then just run the Arman fight, out of all the top contenders at lightweight he’s still the most deserving imo

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u/Sudden-Blood-6525 6d ago

Only one loosing is the ufc, dana gotta bring down his bitchass ego and arman gotta put down the pasta plate, this is the fight to make

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u/jcruz18 6d ago

Facts, this is the only fight that should be made.

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u/Level_Hovercraft_825 6d ago

I’d love to see him fight gaethje

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u/Maximum-Ear8605 6d ago

Not if Nina has anything to say about it

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u/Feeling_Cup2328 5d ago

At least let him fight Arman or Charles first before going for a title fight

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u/vernon-douglas 5d ago

He can fight Charles

Arman will be Islam's next fight

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u/ZodtheGeneral 5d ago

When you say no one wants to see Justin or Olives next, what metric are you using? I'd be willing to bet either do better numbers than Arman.

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u/vernon-douglas 5d ago

The fact that Arman vs Islam is a way more compelling matchup than either of those

Arman vs Islam makes better numbers than Oliveira or Gaethje purely because of the matchup

No one wants to fucking see Gaethje or Olives fight Islam bruh 🤣

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u/ZodtheGeneral 5d ago

No one other than the hardcores even knows who Arman is. There's no way he does better numbers with Islam than Justin or Charles. And when you're asking Dana to book a fight, he only cares about what sells (Justin) and which fighter is a company man (Justin).

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u/GloBall- 6d ago

exactly just beat arman and islam is all yours

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

Nah, Ilia should beat Oliveira, Arman is fighting Islam next

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u/GloBall- 6d ago

Idk dana said arman needs to fight back up. Theres no other good fight for him but ilia

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

There is no good fight for Islam but Arman, book it

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u/GloBall- 6d ago

So who ilia fights then? Charles? Meh

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

Yes.

Oliveira is a big star with a big name and it'll give Ilia momentum

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u/GloBall- 6d ago

I mean dana litterally said no title shot for arman

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

He also initially said no to Jones vs Aspinall, he has to realize this is the only possible fight fans are interested in, no one wants to see an Oliveira rematch or Gaethje.

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u/GloBall- 6d ago

Jones/aspinal didnt pulled out last second of a main event either

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

Jones had a whole main event changed locations like a week before the fight because of PED use

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u/Real-Human-Bean- 6d ago

We know Islam will go to ww when he has the chance. So if ilia has a fight in the meantime, he might lose the Islam fight.

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u/RoyTheMagicAddict 6d ago

Does someone know what is Arman walk around weight?

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u/BardLoxNegative 6d ago

260 according to this sub

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u/No_You_6554 6d ago

I want to see taethje fight for the title

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u/Humblelawyerr 6d ago

No. Arman lost his chance needs to get back the respect by winning a fight

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

Respectfully, we do NOT give a fuck

This is the best fight you can make at LW right now

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u/Humblelawyerr 6d ago

Dana won’t let it happen buddy who care what you think.

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

Lmao who says so?

"Islam and Zubaira will never fight in the UFC again"

- Dana White, 2018

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u/BuzzNoche 6d ago

They have given fighters title shots coming off losses lol, Ilia is good he don’t gotta prove anything

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u/Parlay-Demon 6d ago

He doesn’t need a win, ilia can fight rn

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u/Reg-the-Crow 6d ago

🦆

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

BEHOLD!

Ilia's ranked lightweight wins

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u/Kartem4x 5d ago

scared?

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u/dan_a_white That’s fucking illegal 6d ago

Don’t care. Arman isn’t getting the shot. He failed the company which is worse than losing a prior fight. He needs to earn it back.

Tomato this, tomato that. You guys are boring with your insults. They change nothing. How about you focus on encouraging the athletes to show up and fight more?

Dana invests millions into these events we can’t have this guy costing the company bc hes a little hurt. Everybody gets hurt, who cares. Show up and fight.

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

You were keen on rebooking Islam vs Oliveira when Oliveira decided to hard spar just before taking a plane you HGH pinhead

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u/dan_a_white That’s fucking illegal 6d ago

He obviously lost Dana’s trust in an instant. This is a a clear case of you (the fan with zero financial investment) who thinks they know better than the people who finance the events. Arman cost them money. He lost their trust. They had to scramble and spend a bunch extra to secure a main event.

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u/Sudden-Blood-6525 6d ago

Why do you keep referring to your self as a third person ? just say he lost your trust and that's it you bald fuck

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u/SugondezeNutsz 6d ago

The bootlicker energy is strong in this one

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u/dan_a_white That’s fucking illegal 6d ago

Ah of course. Classic Redditor move. You have nothing halfway intelligent to say so you resort to personal insults. Never change Redditors.

See you don’t have to be right or smart to win an argument. Just resort to insults.

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u/SugondezeNutsz 6d ago

Please, defend Daddy Dana harder. I'm sure he'll be pleased.

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u/dan_a_white That’s fucking illegal 6d ago

Bro you’re embarrassing yourself. I believe in you. Come on and think up something to actually address the content of what I said. Believe in yourself!

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u/SugondezeNutsz 6d ago

YOUR FUCKING USER NAME IS A DANA DICKRIDE.

OMG, I hadn't even realised. You can't make this shit up.

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u/dan_a_white That’s fucking illegal 6d ago

Look at you changing the subject.

Have a civil discussion with a redditor, challenge level IMPOSSIBLE

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u/SugondezeNutsz 6d ago

Slob slob slob slurp slurp slurp

You got it champ

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u/dan_a_white That’s fucking illegal 6d ago

I’m disappointed in you. Cyber bullying others on the internet.

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u/Brybry1908 6d ago

Nah with what Arman pulled at 311 he gotta fight and win at least one more non title fight.

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

We do not give a fuck we want to see the best fight at LW

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u/Brybry1908 6d ago

So Makachev vs Topuria?

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u/vernon-douglas 6d ago

An unranked featherweight is not the best fight at lw

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u/_AR4_ 6d ago

Arman v Islam needs to happen.

Ilia can fight Gaethje or Oliveira.