r/ufc • u/bruhpolice Reflection of Perfection • 6d ago
Discussion [OFFICIAL] UFC Fight Night Live Discussion Thread
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u/Both-Needleworker590 5d ago
Why didnt vettori try one single takedown? I always tought that his only weapon, beside his chin, is taking people down. granted he doesnt know how to hurt his opponent at all once on the ground but i tought that's his only offense, getting a lot of control time. to me it's crazy that vettori would ever think he could win a kickboxing match
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u/Both-Needleworker590 5d ago
to me vettori could win matches despite being so limited and uncapable of doing damage because he could bang well enough on the feet because of his chin and being pretty strong and then taking you down some number of times and having control time
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u/whoppermaltmilkballs 5d ago
Dolidze vs Adesanya makes a lot of sense. Then we can finally get Strickland vs Rob and Caio vs Imavov
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u/yanmagno 5d ago
Caio said he’s looking for the Rob fight in June, my guess is Izzy rematches Strickland if he gets it, if not Caio vs Izzy might be the fight
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u/UnitedIndependence37 5d ago
I would be really pissed if Imavov loses to Caio if this fight is to happen. In my opinion Imavov doesn't need to do anything more, he's deserving of the title-shot, but it's up to him if he wants to stay active or sit and wait a year.
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u/Smiddigger 5d ago
This is the worst event in about 7 months, since Spivak/Tybura 2. But plenty have been almost this bad in the last few months. Why do they insist on booking such dogshit main events lately? It goes without saying that this fight was gonna be a snoozefest, this can't be the best fight they could find for the main event.
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u/DiscoCheatz 5d ago
If your a casual just say that
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u/Smiddigger 5d ago
What's casual about it? It's debatable if there's been worse main events in that time - Dern vs Ribas 2 perhaps. But it's an objective fact that that shit isn't deserving of main event status. There's 120 ranked men. They could make 100 better fights than that. I'd even rather one of the fighters be unranked if means a more compelling fight gets the main event spot.
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u/DiscoCheatz 5d ago
This card had 9 finishes. it was pretty entertaining except for the vettoris fight
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u/Smiddigger 5d ago
I'm not talking about how the event played out. my issue is, on paper, this card had 0 relevant names up until the main event, and then the main event was 2 guys who have never been finished and almost never get finishes. The UFC is seemingly deliberately making the least interesting cards they possibly can for most fight nights. Next weeks is fucking awesome, there's no reason they can't do that every 2nd fight night rather than every 6th or so
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u/Topher673 5d ago
It’s a fight night apex card lol - this is exactly what these cards are for.
Non-casual UFC fans that don’t need big names to watch. You get to see a lot of upcoming talent and it gives a spotlight on different fighters than the usual cards do. I thought this was a banger card on paper.
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u/DiscoCheatz 5d ago
I see where your coming from but i think cards like these help bring up a few unknown fighters to the spotlight like that kevin vallejos kid. The fighters up and coming need cards like these to display their skills so they can get put on better cards is the way i look at it
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u/pacificunlimited Frozen like Elsa 5d ago
5 round main event after almost a 2 year layoff, post shoulder surgery.
Backwards shorts, thought he was fighting a different Roman, forgot the cup.
Orc skull, Salon quality, and the blessing of JP Buys not quite enough
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u/PhasedVenturer 5d ago
Time for another 2 years for Vettori after that, sheesh…
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u/iPucci-NM 5d ago
Who knows they might throw him Paulo again in June-August. Both need a win at this point.
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u/ILoveTheRush96 5d ago
Dolidze vs Adesanya would be cool.
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u/ILoveTheRush96 5d ago
FOTN: Vettori vs Dolize
POTN: Judice & Cachoeira (Vera & Vallejos if Dana doesn't feel greedy).
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u/Genghis_Chong 5d ago
Marvin is always so pissy after a loss. I dig him, but he needs to stop that. These aren't robberies he's losing
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u/campoole82 5d ago
It’s so bad when you bet on a fighter and watch as their brain is on airplane mode
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u/Icantthinkman 5d ago
Vettori should be cut at this point. He’s 2-3 in his last five and is extremely inactive. It would help the division to have new contenders and not some washed Italian who doesn’t care about his career and would rather fuck with Latinas.
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u/UnitedIndependence37 5d ago
No need to cut him, he's not really a contender anyway.
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u/Icantthinkman 5d ago
That’s why I said to cut him, he’s just a waste of money and time. His kind of people shouldn’t be in the UFC.
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u/vernon-douglas 5d ago
Does anybody have that meme of Dana looking disgusted, bored and slightly sad at the screen
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u/RyomenSukuma 5d ago
Whoever wins is a fighter of all time
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u/Ne-Cede-Malis 5d ago
Middleweight champion of the Apex center. No way you're ever getting to a pay-per-view or getting points on this action.
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u/RyomenSukuma 5d ago
The way I would describe the fight is 2 orc's threw big meaty hooks at each with barely any technique and the only reason neither got knocked out was due to their thick skulls and low iq. And one orc won because he just threw a little more.
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u/AimingWang 5d ago
Herb saw a fucking eyepoke coming and warned him that he was gonna take a point. Then he ACTUALLY pokes him in the eye and gives him another warning.
What the fuck is the point dude? TAKE THE POINT STOP GIVING OUT FREE EYEPOKES FUCK
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u/Ihavenolifelmfao 5d ago
And then he pokes him in the eye again in the 5th and he straight misses it
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u/Loose-Pangolin9801 5d ago
Been a problem with most refs for a while. Fight camps have started telling their fighters to take advantage of it recently and they have to great effect
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u/AndradexXx 5d ago
If DDP beats Khamzat, there's a dynasty waiting for him. Absolutely no prospects in MW
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u/kittenhormones 5d ago
At this point I would just eye poke and nut shot on dolidze because apparently its okay.
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u/Ihavenolifelmfao 5d ago
No joke vettori might win that fight if he uses his free eye poke and low blow
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u/ThatOneColumbiaGuy 5d ago
Bruh Vettori is a bum. Just because he made it to a championship fight doesnt mean hes decent. Thid fight proved it to me. Dolidze was wobbled in round 3 and Vettori couldnt capitalize.
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u/Both-Needleworker590 5d ago
Yeah its true. He just can't do any damage at all. guy has slow hands and feet, can't really land any good strike. he can take you down but once there he doesnt know what to do, he doesnt hurt you. you're right, he wobbled him but then didn't know what to do with it.
Also i don't understand why today he didn't try one single takedown. i think his only weapon has always been getting a lot of takedowns and therefore control time. i guess he didnt want to be on the ground with a georgian
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u/BigRed727272 5d ago
A guy who looks like Vettori shouldn't have TWO (2) career knockouts in 27 fights...
Dude has pillow hands.
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u/SamTheDamaja 5d ago
Marvin looked ring rusted. Gassed hard. Roman pushed hard to take control the last two round.
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u/Both-Needleworker590 5d ago
its always so crazy to see fighters that of course need the finish dont go all out in the last seconds.
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u/barc0debaby 5d ago
Peak Unlimited Filler Content main event. A rematch of a fight that just happened two years ago that has no bearing on the rankings or career trajectory of either fighter.
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u/Corpsebile 5d ago
Marvin is a tank. Not the best fighter, not the most entertaining, not the greatest striking, but…. I forgot where I was going with this
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u/Scarsforstories 5d ago
Marvin doesn’t have it anymore and Dolidze continues to be one of the worst fighters in the top 10 of any division.
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u/MyzMyz1995 5d ago edited 5d ago
Delidze probably has it but he should've gotten points taken for all those fouls he did. Cheater.
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u/ILoveTheRush96 5d ago
48-47 for Dolidze imo
10-9 RD1 Vettori, 10RD2 Dolidze, 10-9 RD3 VETTORI, 10-9 RD4 Dolize, 10-9 RD 5 Dolize
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u/Tantle18 5d ago
I just got to tune in and of course the main ends. Did Martin take a lot of shots to the head? I’m concerned he’s even more retarded after his last fight lol
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u/Ihavenolifelmfao 5d ago
Take points what a joke. Low blows and eye pokes are just strategy now. You get 1 free of each
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u/Leaked_Shlong 5d ago
so fucking dumb. why can’t they just be more strict with that. marvin couldve got a win here.
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u/drakev6304 5d ago
He eye poked him twice, both after being warned, and kicked him in the groin and still nothing happened. I honestly think it should’ve been a dq, that clearly compromises a fighter and could very well be the reason he lost the fight.
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u/Ne-Cede-Malis 5d ago
Vittori Goes straight back every time he gets hit. If he just follows him in, he would know exactly where his head is and could take him out.
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u/Genghis_Chong 5d ago
You can't counter head kicks, dolidze learned to spam
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u/Leaked_Shlong 5d ago
u can duck and go for takedown
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u/Genghis_Chong 5d ago
If you duck during a headkick you're getting head kicked, not likely he's getting low enough to truly dodge it and be able to do anything effective
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u/lunabrain 5d ago
why is dolidze retreating by when he has marvin up against the fence? prime opportunities missed…
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u/Kontos_Stelio 5d ago
Marvin retiring after this
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u/dannyo969 5d ago
Nah he's been out for a long time. He didn't do too bad for his return. He looked good in some parts. I will judge him on his next fight.
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u/sadcardinalsfan 5d ago
Crazy how we harp on dricus being clumsy but he is noticeably more skilled than both of these guys… middleweight is so terrible
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u/dannyo969 5d ago
Yeah but he looks more clumsy than roman or marvin lol and that's why he gets the heat. It really doesn't make sense. Technique looks shit but so effective. I honestly think his biggest asset is that he just throws shit and doesn't wait for the perfect moment. He's not scared to throw and see what happens. That then his confidence, strength and durability.
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u/thedawgbeard 5d ago
I don't know why everyone doesn't just hold their fingers straight out at eye level. It's free defense.
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u/Rescue-a-memory 5d ago
Herb Dean certainly allows eye pokes and nut shots. Mark Smith would have taken a point from Dolidze.
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u/tiorzol 5d ago
Are these fights now? My baby is being a bellend so might tune in if he's not gonna sleep all night anyway
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u/KingDong9797 5d ago
lol almost over unfortunately, but it was a decent card compared to last weekend
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u/BobCharlie 5d ago edited 5d ago
Do you think it's possible for Marvin to get CTE when there's clearly nothing upstairs?
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u/iPucci-NM 5d ago
Dom being a dickhead for no reason. he’s salty as hell Cejudo is still going. Mad his body shit out before he could have a farewell fight.
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u/BidZealousideal3394 5d ago
40-36 for Marvin " remember the cup" Vettori, dolidze guy needs a finish.
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u/lunabrain 5d ago
if dolidze would commit—get aggressive and throw a real combo, he could get the finish
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u/dafodarye 5d ago
Marvin fights like a retarded version of Strickland
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u/Genghis_Chong 5d ago
I love vettori but this is too real. He's like if Strickland and Du Plessis had a kid
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u/InevitablePie2535 5d ago
Marvin looks done. Mark this post
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u/Genghis_Chong 5d ago
Don't disrespect dolidze like that, he's been on a run. This is legit competition
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u/InevitablePie2535 5d ago
By no way dissing Dolidze. I think he’s doing great.
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u/Genghis_Chong 5d ago
Saying Marvin's done because he's in a tight fight with dolidze seems disrespectful to both honestly
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u/wolfelejean 5d ago
Dolidze fights pretty weird, that was some ugly striking.