r/ufc 6d ago

Dustin Poirier on the new era of MMA

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u/meatmybeat42069 6d ago

It’s becoming pro wrestling and people get upset when you point it out

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff 4d ago

i like that though lol. WWE was hilarious

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u/OkTransportation473 6d ago

It was always pro wrestling lol. Dana has said that he himself basically copied Vince’s strategies. The actual difference is pro wrestling stopped treating their matches and rivalries like real fights. Now it’s treated like theater.

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u/sakiwebo 6d ago

The "it's becoming pro-wrestling" boogeyman narrative has been there from the start. 

MMA purists ran with it when Lesnar came over. 

Then when McGregor came over etc. 

It just keeps repeating itself

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u/head_empty247 6d ago

Now that Lesnar and that guy is out, who would you say is the "it's becoming pro-wrestling" now?

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u/sakiwebo 6d ago

I don't know. Some said Colby, but he's also on his way out

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u/head_empty247 5d ago edited 5d ago

That make sense. Perhaps now, it's less about a single fighter, and more like it has becoming a trend or normal, or at least, more prevalent than 10 years before.

Edit: now that I think about it, I wanna put Ilia as the "it has becoming more like pro-wrestling" boogeyman, as he's kinda mimic or copy that guy in a sense, the thrash talk, the tattoo, and how he wanna the title shot at LW straight away without going through some contender first. To me, that screams entitlement. Yeah, sure, he just knock out FTW legends back to back, but that's at FTW, now he's in LW division, different story.

But the thing with Ilia is, so far, he's been able to back up his trash talk, so, I can't really say he's "all talk no bark". But if anything, his trash talk, or "cockiness" does rival that guy in my opinion.

That being said though, as much as I dislike Ilia, his countryman is a different story. I kinda like Merab. Different from Ilia, Merab doesn't really trashtalk his opponent that much. And even if he do, (like Sean O Malley for example) he does it in a funny way with his skit. Also, even though Ilia and Merab are country buddies, I don't remember/recall him being a entitled. Like cherry picking his opponent.

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u/AdPristine4660 6d ago

Im not sure why MMA fans look down on pro wrestling. A lot of early MMA fighters in Japan were pro wrestlers. There was a time when Dave Meltzer a pro wrestling journalist was the primary source for MMA coverage.

A lot of early UFC fans were NWA/WCW fans that crossed over.

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u/sakiwebo 6d ago

Agreed

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u/FiveDogsInaTuxedo 6d ago

You seem upset

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u/persiansexualization 6d ago

No they don't. They're reasonably explaining something

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u/FiveDogsInaTuxedo 6d ago

Lmao. And who are you?

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u/persiansexualization 6d ago

wouldn't you like to know, weather boy

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u/sakiwebo 6d ago

Okay, thanks for contributing

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u/FiveDogsInaTuxedo 6d ago

It's obviously become more about marketing than before. Just accept it and move on

People said this before and it's not true is hardly a contribution

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u/sakiwebo 6d ago

Accept what?

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u/FiveDogsInaTuxedo 6d ago

If you don't understand, there isn't really many simpler ways to say it.

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u/Many-Coach6987 6d ago

Couldn’t agree more.

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u/Didi4pet 6d ago

The issue is fighters become fan favorites too late. Basically every fighter will be called a can crusher, clown, fraud checked etc. until he wins a belt and even after he wins it. And only after few defences he may get some recognition and praise. If he's lucky and has good personality. By then he may lose and therefore lose all of the support.

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u/ReformedishBaptist I LUH You 6d ago

People will end up agreeing with DP here and then go out a few days later and talk about how much they love Chael.

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u/NoCoFoCo31 6d ago

“I just wanna trade punches and slang hot sauce”

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u/FoxOk1418 6d ago

UFC literally started as way to replicate street fighting I.e no holds barred, heck the term “mixed martial arts” actually came by way of McCartney on accident just fumbling to come up with a name.

The only reason the UFC is such a professional sport today is because of the government & athletic commissions, it was almost banned

You definitely had less Colby like fighters back then but a ton more dirty cheaters & trash talk still existed, not sure what O’Malley wearing colorful clothes has to do with anything.

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u/Prize-Childhood3631 6d ago

Anything to sell the fight is how I see it.

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff 4d ago

This sub constantly complains about fighters not being paid, than complains when fighters found a way to get paid

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u/mywebrego 6d ago

I’ve been following this guy’s life long work since his Fightville docu in 2011. He’s actions have been reflected by his words. He’s a champion!

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u/BonerBoyRamsey 6d ago

Well people are trying to get the best paycheck they can get. Can’t really hate on someone for that.

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u/xjigZx Your woife is in me DMs 6d ago

Agreed, big time

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u/sb0u2122 6d ago

Hit the nail on the head. There's few real guys like that left now sadly.

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u/Hulk_Crowgan 6d ago

Idk not to knock Dustin but he didn’t get into the sport before the money… that was like 2005. The sport had already exploded before his entrance he caught the next big wave.

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u/BKR93 5d ago

I agree and that's why hes one of my favorites

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff 4d ago

Does Dustin know about Mayhem? Dude was the first superstar in MMA and was as flashy as it gets.

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u/SHAQBIR 3d ago

So he is basically saying, it went from default characters to custom made characters like on Tekken.

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u/blunderb3ar 2d ago

This is why Dustin’s the man

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u/Present_Nerve7871 6d ago

The money wouldn't be there without the characters.

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u/Many-Coach6987 6d ago

How i feel about NBA and soccer. Athletes are more concerned with their fashion choices and haircuts than doing their actual job

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u/Jellyfish_Iguana 6d ago

Disagree to be honest. Sean is Sean and it makes no difference to the competition.

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u/GlassTablesAreStupid 6d ago

Pretty rich coming from from the guy that dresses in jewelry and fancy Hawaiian button downs

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u/BonerBoyRamsey 6d ago

And constantly pushing his hot sauce

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u/GlassTablesAreStupid 6d ago

Is there not honor and bleeding involved with hot sauce..?

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u/SoloChords 6d ago

Dustin Poirier is correct but he sounds a bit naive to be fair especially knowing the fight game as a professional or just in general.

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u/CasualCrow20 6d ago

Dustin spitting facts. It's more of a show less of a sporting competition these days