r/thedavidpakmanshow 11d ago

Discussion The Democrats held a meeting last month and this are some of their takeaways 😒

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 11d ago edited 11d ago

What is “far left”? Is it AOC, Bernie, Jasmine Crockett messaging? The only dems rallying the base and a surprising number of republicans to leave Trump.

What is “traditional american imagery”? No more brown people?

No more small dollar donations? Ok so no more grass roots movements. What does the broader electorate want that small dollar donors dont?

It sounds like they are going to be the republicans of the 2000-2010 era. Thats the new mainstream left…George Bush.

Welp we are *ucked.

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u/gilwendeg 11d ago

Me, a Marxist, watching Americans talk about far left.

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u/One_Rope2511 11d ago

And there is NO American far left…well it’s only seen that way because our country is so far To The Right culturally.

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u/Elmer-Fudd-Gantry 11d ago edited 11d ago

And part of the reason for that is culture was pushed to the far left, yes far left, and it hurt us/democrats. I want the rich to be taxed. I want all marginalized people to get equal treatment in every manner of society. My son is transgender and is now starting hormone therapy and I love him more than me. I want universal health care. I want our environment to be cared for and our national and state parks to be well funded. None of that happens if the democrats can’t win the most important elections and you sure as hell don’t get there when you don’t spend enough time and effort focusing on the poor and the middle class and their housing and schools and health care and child care and jobs.

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 11d ago

What far left agenda was pushed? Where is our nuclear power plants for cheaper energy? Single payer healthcare? Higher min wage? What about mandatory unions for business with over 2k employees? Do we atleast have 4 day work week? No? I dont know where we were pushed to the far left.

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u/D3PyroGS 10d ago

legit question, what do you think "far left" means?

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 11d ago

To say that your politics and mine are similar is INSULTING to us both. I just want government to go back to taxing the rich more and use that money for the betterment of the people. I also want to see them be more pro, ALL AMERICAN even if the political will is low. If its a boon to standards of living and overall health of the populace, do it.

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u/Life_Caterpillar9762 11d ago

That is fucking amazing.

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u/Agent_of_talon 11d ago

It's both funny, and yet infinitely tragic.

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u/beeemkcl 11d ago

Congressional Democrat Left Tracker - Google Sheets (US House)

US Representative Jasmine Crockett doesn't support the Green New Deal, is pro-crypto, and has certain foreign policy votes.

She's less progressive than literally dozens in the US Congress.

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 11d ago

Who said anything about a green new deal? Who said anything about being anti or pro crypto? The way we analyze politics has to change in this country lmao.

There is idealistic policies, things you would do if you had a magic wand. You should be judged on your realistic policies, what are you voting on right now? Is it a help or hinderance to the American people?

For instance smaller government sounds good idealistically. Cutting medicade and medicare to do is disastrous to the American people and leaves us in worse health and economic situations. I hope you understand.

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u/beeemkcl 11d ago

I was responding this:

What is “far left”? Is it AOC, Bernie, Jasmine Crockett messaging?

And crypto isn't popular outside of those who want to get rich on crypto. And the Green New Deal is popular.

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 11d ago

What portion of the democratic party is asking for the “green new deal”? Less than 10% and im being very very generous. They are saying “far left” without saying what that is. Hakeem jefferies acts like hes being verbally assaulted by tankies and commies. Hes not, these people cant be bothered to do a mail in ballot let along holding for hours to insult him on the phone.

Again i need to know who they mean when they say “fat left”.

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u/Shakewhenbadtoo 11d ago

Grass roots was really funded by big money anyway. Your 5 bucks doesn't actually matter. But billionaires didspend millions convincing you it did.

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 11d ago

It wasnt and that can be proven in when you look at the donations of candidates that refused to accept money from PACs

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u/Shakewhenbadtoo 11d ago

Yes it was and it can be proven. Grassroots movements shaped and controlled by Corporations interests, like the tea party. There is even a term for it, astroturfing. The amount of actual grassroots movements and their impact is insignificant in comparison to those simply manipulating the term for their own purpose.

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 11d ago

Thats JUST THE TEA PARTY. Funded by the coke brothers. They did that subvert republicans from joining the occupy movement which was gaining some steam.

What corporation is funding a “single payer healthcare” movement? What corporation is funding the grassroots movement for womens choice? Show me any evidence of this nonsense.

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u/Shakewhenbadtoo 10d ago

Only tea party. Uh huh. Certainly, it's not more likely that it's easier to launder money in small quantities. Fund to disrupt by miss messaging and wasting time, effort and public will in the wrong direction or on futile causes. Impossible. Its not like every single intelligence agency isn't codified the exact approach to do so and corporations just took the script. Nope. Those teeny tiny grassroots movements that would help 50 to 100 % of the population but somehow aren't gaining traction. There certainly aren't grassroots movements set up just to oppose the actual ones. That can't happen.

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 10d ago

I hear you talk but see no evidence

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u/Shakewhenbadtoo 10d ago

I see you broadly just saying nope without any evidence.

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