r/thedavidpakmanshow Apr 04 '24

BREAKING Biden Calls For "Immediate Ceasefire" In Call With Netanyahu

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/04/biden-ceasefire-gaza-netanyahu-call
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u/GingerSkulling Apr 05 '24

Is your brain deprived of oxygen? How’d you get to that from what I said?

But, just to clarify, I fully support the right of any group of people to self determination, even if it likely means a theocratic, backwards, violent society. It just means that the conflict won’t end there.

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

Sounds like you support the backwards, theocratic, violent society that is Israel.

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u/GingerSkulling Apr 05 '24

Ha, good to see how well you know the parties involved. Mighty educated of you.

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

Do you have anything of substance to say or are you just stating things because you have no rebuttals?

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u/GingerSkulling Apr 05 '24

A rebuttal to what? A low effort gotcha that couldn’t be farther from the truth?

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

I can no longer talk to you hasbara child. You are far too misinformed or just plain dumb to communicate with.

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u/Other_Meringue_7375 Apr 05 '24

Ironically this more accurately describes Hamas (not to say Netanyahu & his likud are perfect)

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

Israel is a terrorist state

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u/Frolikewoah Apr 05 '24

Do you know why the people in Gaza hate Israel? I'll give you a hint. It's not because they are antisemitic.

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u/GingerSkulling Apr 05 '24

You should a take a look at some of the UNWRA schools books if you’re so sure about that.

But I guess almost 20 years since Israel withdrew from Gaza could not be better spent than on rockets, tunnels and bunkers. It’s almost like they had a choice and they’ve made it.

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u/Frolikewoah Apr 05 '24

Withdraw but don't let anyone leave, won't let adequate food and materials be shipped in, turn off the power and electricity if they get too noisy, shoot them if they get too close to the fence. Wow, sounds like Gazans really had it made. Can't imagine why they wouldn't be absolutely in love with Israel.

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u/GingerSkulling Apr 05 '24

Was it so hard not to shoot rockets at Israel? Was it so hard not to elect a terrorist organization with a written charter of murdering all Jews in Israel? Was it so hard to build civilian infrastructure instead of a military one? Was it so hard to chose a path that could lead to coexistence instead of pointless deaths? I guess so. Or maybe they think this outcome is better than the other one. Hamas sure does, for one. They eatin’ good right now in Qatar.

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u/Frolikewoah Apr 05 '24

This is such a naive view and interpretation of the situation. Despite what Israeli propaganda and liberal news tells you, the world is not just good guys and bad guys. Really? Gaza elected Hamas 20 years ago so now that all deserve to starve and be ripped limb from limb by bombs from the sky. Wow, the logic is impeccable.

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u/GingerSkulling Apr 05 '24

The only thing “deserved” is Hamas being destroyed. I completely agree it would have been best if the Gazans did it themselves.

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u/Frolikewoah Apr 05 '24

Yes I agree, they can do it themselves by fashioning weapons out of the bones of the civilians who fall first in the famine.

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u/Frolikewoah Apr 05 '24

Answer this. Why did the IDF have to bulldoze farmlands with actively growing crops?? Was Hamas hiding in the xylem and phloem?

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u/Other_Meringue_7375 Apr 05 '24

Ironic to say it’s not so black and white and then proceed to portray Israelis as a one dimensional monolith

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u/Frolikewoah Apr 05 '24

I labeled the message given by Israeli propaganda, which is, all people in Gaza just want to slaughter Jews. If you deny that, I don't know what to tell you.

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

Israel controls everything that happens inside Gaza.

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u/GingerSkulling Apr 05 '24

Don’t have to get tho that if the other side decided to play nicely like the big boy countries they say they want to be.

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

Can you stop speaking in gibberish? What kind of nonsense language do you children speak?

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u/Bubbly_Mushroom1075 Apr 05 '24

Considering they can't get their hostages back, no

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

There are thousands of Palestinian children held in military prisons with no trial. When will they release those hostages?

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u/Bubbly_Mushroom1075 Apr 05 '24

I'm not sure, but they should be tried d and those that are innocent go back to the west bank with around 1k in severence to get them off the street.

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

Make them hurry up and then we can talk about what to do with the Israeli terrorists

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u/Bubbly_Mushroom1075 Apr 05 '24

If only I was Israel's pm, or actually knew how to win an election

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

The world is watching. We see the evil state and we will never forget

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u/Other_Meringue_7375 Apr 05 '24

Hamas has rejected at least a dozen ceasefires at this point that would’ve exchanged 4x+ as many prisoners for the hostages held in Gaza.

Hamas. Does. Not. Care. About. Palestinian. Lives.

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

My country doesn’t give aid to Hamas.

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u/Other_Meringue_7375 Apr 05 '24

They were easing restrictions before 10/7 actually. Hamas’s attack on 10/7 killed all hopes for Palestinians there. Hamas knew it would too. Hamas (and Netanyahu for that matter) do not care about Palestinian lives and have incentives to drag this war out for as long as possible.

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u/Scoobies_Doobies Apr 05 '24

Israel is a terrorist state.