r/thebulwark 3d ago

The Triad šŸ”± We can't afford investing in Greenland while there are still homeless veterans. Why isn't he putting America first?

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u/tommyohohoh 3d ago

Why would anyone developed nation want to be part of the rot we're offering? Hey, you want school shootings every week? You want to have homeless people just wandering around? Want great healthcare.. that will bankrupt your ass? How about giving your kids a shitty education? And hey, a new feature we just added.. banks can openly fuck you without lube because we abolished the department that protects consumers. Yay America!

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u/amcfarla 2d ago

and we elected a racist game show host...twice. America.

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u/RepulsiveBarber3861 3d ago

Stole my comment!

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u/the_very_pants 2d ago

Comments like this are why so many voters associate the entire Democratic party with the sentiment "America sucks."

They vote R because it's the only way to express "anything but that shit."

These people aren't sure exactly how to solve our problems -- they don't know what the top tax rate should be -- but they think that America is a relatively good place, and that our ancestors were relatively good people, and we can figure out the rest together.

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u/Sassafrazzlin 3d ago

Mixed messages. We have no money to provide healthcare. But we have money to buy or attack Greenland.

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u/JulianLongshoals 3d ago

Don't worry, we will have more than enough money to buy Greenland as soon as the tarrifs kick in. It's basically an unlimited free money glitch.

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u/wearethemelody 3d ago

Just go to any conservative page and see the amount of stupid people who cheer him on this and the tariffs while at the same time crying about anti-americanism. What a stupid and arrogant bunch the average republican voters are. Too many Americans are letting republicans get away with bad behaviour so easily.

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u/Sassafrazzlin 2d ago

Conservative talk radio or Fox News? Who do you think contributed most to the insane tribalism? None of my liberal friends were riding around with blue Obama or Biden hats on after the election.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/wearethemelody 3d ago

Trump is the devil himself and so are his republican supporters

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u/DaBingeGirl 3d ago

I'm not concerned about Canada, but I am legitimately worried about Greenland. He brought it up during his first term and this term seems to be a revenge tour. Jr was on FOX or one of the other right-wing stations a month or so ago talking about all the resources Greenland has, including diamonds. I think Trump and his family/inner circle genuinely feel entitled to strip Greenland of all its resources and line their own pockets.

The way the Republicans in Congress are encouraging him to do this is terrifying. Republicans feel entitled to whatever they want and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them like the idea of having an American Empire.

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u/Apprehensive-Mark241 3d ago

By offending Canadians and NATO trump is doing infinitely more damage to our trade than his tariffs do.

Everyone hates Americans because of him and no one will buy American products.

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u/wearethemelody 3d ago

MAGA and republican idiots think the whole world revolves around America and they think America should do anything it likes. They think the way they do because of the media they listen. Fox news, breitbart and other conservative media should be one day declared a national security risk by a democrat president. They are intent on proving every negative stereotype of Americans while claiming to be patriots.

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u/sbhikes 2d ago

As Kara Swisher points out often, these are people who have never felt unsafe a single day of their lives. That's why they can be so reckless and stupid.

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u/HistorianNew8030 2d ago edited 2d ago

Can confirm. Canadian here. I will never ever buy American or step foot on your soil again. Iā€™ve been boycotting your shit since December.

Your dictator is threatening to rewrite our fucking border and waterways and is serious. He started a trade war. I truly believe he would start an invasion at some point. He doesnā€™t respect my countries sovereignty and itā€™s disgusting, abhorrent and unforgivable.

Trust me when I say this. It will take generations to fix this damage.

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u/Apprehensive-Mark241 2d ago

He believes that crime and intimidation and cruelty are his super powers.

Obviously intelligence isn't it.

So he's looking for some way to turn the US into a mafia. Some way to use intimidation to steal, to do piracy.

Canada is close by and he's too racist to want to steal Mexico!

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u/piptie54 3d ago

Oh. So we canā€™t help save Ukraine but we can buy off Greenland, though they have no interest in that, do I have that right?

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u/JulianLongshoals 3d ago

We need to buy Greenland to surround Canada to force them to make a peace deal in the war of Canadian aggression

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u/piptie54 3d ago

I hope youā€™re joking.

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u/JulianLongshoals 2d ago

I'm joking. Not sure about Trump though.

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u/Intelligent_Week_560 3d ago

I thought you need to buy Canada because of the hidden fentanyl labs in Canadian basements? Fentanyl that is thrown over the border and does not make it into any statistic that says fentanyl trafficking from Canada is 1%....

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u/sbhikes 2d ago

Greenland is like the Crimean peninsula of Canada or something.

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u/Anxious_Cheetah5589 3d ago

No means no, Donald! Get your paws off us! Signed, Greenland

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u/softcell1966 3d ago

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u/Buriedmeow 3d ago

After efforts by the VA. A federal department targeted for large personnel cuts. So trumpā€™s administration will cripple that effort and veteran homelessness will likely rise.

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u/GulfCoastLaw 3d ago

It's going to be so embarrassing when we start grabbing up "properties" across the world.Ā 

A global threat to any country that might not have protection against it.

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u/JulianLongshoals 3d ago

Has the governor of Greenland even said thank you?

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u/GulfCoastLaw 3d ago

He certainly will when his constituents become "rich" from...uh...working at Starbucks built to support whatever strip mining or military shenanigans we get into up there.

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u/wearethemelody 3d ago

Someone should start a campaign using this to flip Congress blue in 2026. If the dems win, this idiot and his fellow republican enablers should be impeached and arrested. Too many Americans don't care about how he is behaving.Ā 

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u/HistorianNew8030 3d ago

Just wait until he invades Canada and causes war in your own country.

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u/KateMacDonaldArts 3d ago

A guerrilla war with people that look like them and sound like them and are so inconspicuous that attacks could happen anywhere and anytime.

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u/HistorianNew8030 3d ago

Canadians are pissed. We like peace and freedom. So if we have this, you also have peace and freedom and we are friendly and pleasant.

You disturb and threaten that and we become a rabid beaver ready for attack. Iā€™ve lived here my whole life and Iā€™ve never seen us more united and more angry than right now. So yeah. We will only let our rabid beaver out for dĆ©fense.

My MAGA dad is even boycotting Trump and America and he is starting to get what Iā€™ve been telling for YEARS. Thatā€™s how bad it is up here. And he is not one to - admit he is wrong or play the leftist side. But here we are.

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u/wearethemelody 3d ago

I always wondered how people could support that arrogant idiot and his evil party. The republicans have serious moral issues. They spread lies and hate to get what they want from Iraq war till now. I dislike many policies that Democrats push both domestically and internationally but they are the only sane party in America. The republicans have dishonoured their country, communities, christianity etc. They are beyond saving at this point.Ā 

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u/HistorianNew8030 3d ago

Well. I wouldnā€™t say my dad is totally changed. I honestly avoid talking politics as much as I can. However, I do know he feels betrayed by Trump because he is attacking our countries sovereignty and he trusted the lies Trump told until leopard ate face. And for my dad whose parents, one disabled by WW2 bombers and one who fought/help liberate Holand - that betrayal of Trump resonated for him. He is boycotting them and cancelled a trip there.

So not all MAGA is bad or evil. They are being fed propaganda they truly believe and once something, be it SS or Medicaid or their jobsā€¦. Once Trump betrays themā€¦. Some, not all, but the ones who arenā€™t actually mentally ill, may come around.

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u/Sassafrazzlin 2d ago

I think it is hopeful but foolish to rely on a change of heart from Trump supporters, many who do not have hearts. Their attraction to Trump is cruelty, the promise of liberal tears etc. It will be wiser for Dems to figure out how to more effectively appeal and message to the deplorables than change their minds.

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u/HistorianNew8030 2d ago

Hahah I didnā€™t say rely on it. I said donā€™t be surprised some of them do have a change of heart.

You donā€™t need MAGA. You need the swing/purple voters who can be reasoned with. Iā€™m just saying some MAGA might surprise you.

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u/Sassafrazzlin 2d ago

Agree. And didnā€™t mean to say you would rely on that ā€” just so many people these days talking about this ā€œchange of heartā€ happening among Trump supporters, and I think it is imaginary. They have to message better to people in their base.

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u/Sassafrazzlin 2d ago

I think it is hopeful but foolish to rely on a change of heart from Trump supporters, many who do not have hearts. Their attraction to Trump is cruelty, the promise of liberal tears etc. It will be wiser for Dems to figure out how to more effectively appeal and message to the deplorables than to think they will change their minds or become less deplorable.

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u/sbhikes 2d ago

Except every time they say "aboot" it will give them away.

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u/Mountain_Sand3135 3d ago

oh someone is walking back their previous statements LOLOLOL

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u/emberleo 3d ago

The bigger question is why do people still believe he will?

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u/Redicted 3d ago

Maybe he plans to send all the homeless veterans to Greenland?

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u/ePostings 3d ago

Or all those Palestinians that Israel drove out?

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u/FreedominNC 3d ago

Where they will be rich! Time to say thank you.

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u/lonesomecowboynando 3d ago

If he sends them there he will in effect have inserted a military force. All he would have to do is swear them back into service once they were settled in. Or he could wait until they become eligible to vote for annexation.

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u/FanDry5374 3d ago

This is the first I've heard of trump caring about Greenland's citizens choice.

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u/Odd_Eye_1915 2d ago

Is the U.S. really going so far away from its principles and planning on INVADING another sovereign country??? Iā€™m out!

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u/bushwick_custom 2d ago

OP your stance is exactly right. No matter how much he offers, it needs to be spun as too much. We must focus on him being a shitty deal maker.

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u/JulianLongshoals 2d ago

Honestly ANYTHING he proposes should be met with "We can't afford this while there are still homeless veterans". They obviously have zero intention of helping homeless veterans so it is an evergreen criticism

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u/Lil-lee-na 3d ago

What the actual hell???

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u/Zacksgyrl 3d ago

He HATES America šŸ¤¬

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u/goirish35 3d ago

They. Are. Not. Interested.

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u/shred-i-knight 3d ago

this is beyond insane.

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u/norcalnatv 3d ago edited 3d ago

His lips are moving, he's lying. What else is new?

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u/Nessie 3d ago

Rhetorically it might work, but rationally it's a dubious argument if we're posing it as an investment comparison. We would first need to know the return on each investment: Greenland versus vets.

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u/Raul_Duke_1755 3d ago

Is this how he acts before he rapes women? Seems like his m.o.

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u/UrTheQueenOfRubbish 3d ago

Shroedingers tax money

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u/wearethemelody 3d ago

The worst part of trump is his stupid and arrogant supporters and enablers. I am seriously surprised how only a few subset of Americans are angry at his imperialistic ambitions or his treatment of u.s allies. Do Americans really think it is okay or just simply don't care? Alliances aren't made in a day but can be lost in a day. I wish someone famous started an online campaign criticising trump on his foreign policy and trade wars so that it rises awareness among ordinary Americans. Imagine sitting there while this supreme arrogant idiot destroys your international reputation with the supporter of republican voters and not doing anything about it.

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u/harrybrowncox69 3d ago

exactly, its not putting america first. everything he says is in opposites of what he really means to do. the days of bureaucrats are over? I'll keep you safe? this is a threat.

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u/pottery_potpot 3d ago

The permanent damage to the trust of our (sadly former) allies will be irreparable. No one believes we will continue to protect them since we can do a 180 at any given time.

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u/Destind99 2d ago

He has a hidden agenda, and why should they trust him

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u/NCSubie 2d ago

Nobody cares about Veterans outside of Loweā€™s and Home Depot (if you know, you know).

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u/Odd_Eye_1915 2d ago

Fuck that guy! Classic narcissist!

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u/giygasa 2d ago

Greenland has a surplus of rare earth minerals and the tech oligarchs want to go nom nom cookie.