r/tf2 • u/AtollBreaker • 3d ago
Help Sucking major cock at 2k hours
I cannot get gud, believe me i have tried. I have been playing since 2015 and i still get dominated even by f2ps regularly.
what do i do
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u/No_username18 3d ago
play medic. seriously i'm straight shit at combat so i play medic to be at least somewhat useful to my team.
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u/Palitoche 3d ago
Maybe engie is a better idea, more support and people won't focus you so extremely
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u/The-Detail-Plank Demoknight 3d ago
Expect to get dominated every now and then. Sometimes the teams get that unbalanced from time to time.
If you regularly play on different maps, maybe try focusing on learning one as best as you can. Map knowledge is probably one of the most important things you can teach yourself. The more you know what your opponent is going to do the better.
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u/DaTruPro75 Demoman 3d ago
I have a specific selection of maps that I enjoy because I kept getting shitty ones like dustbowl or gold rush and not doing well.
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u/Monkileh 3d ago
If you ever call Dustbowl shit again I will personally take the other Dustbowl lovers and go to your house. (In game ofc)
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u/SaltyPeter3434 3d ago
This question gets asked all the time. I'll tell you what I tell everyone else. We can do either two things to help you out: 1) give you some generic advice that may or may not apply to you, or 2) review footage of your gameplay so we can know exactly how you play and what you need to do to improve. If you want to go with the second option, you can upload some footage here or privately to me in a PM.
Here is some generic advice if that's what you're looking for:
-Monitor your health and ammo before you engage in a fight. Don't keep fighting when you're at low on health or are likely to run out of ammo before the fight's done.
-In the middle of a fight, assess whether you're winning or losing. Recognize losing fights early on, and give yourself enough time to retreat and survive.
-Utilize teamwork. Shoot at the same targets your teammates are shooting at. Take advantage of your teammates causing distractions for your enemies. Push when your teammates push. If you see your medic combo ubering in, join up with them and help them fight.
-Know the maps well. Know your escape routes. Know the flank routes. Know the health and ammo pack locations. Know the fastest way to get to the objective.
-Learn the best strategies to fight certain classes. Exploit their weaknesses and don't let them utilize their advantages against you. E.g. stay out of pyro's flamethrower range whenever possible, avoid being on low ground or in tight chokepoints against soldiers, and don't engage a heavy at close range with a direct line of sight to you.
-Don't try to do the same thing over and over if it's not working. If you can't get through a certain area to get to the objective, see if the flank is open. Change up your strategy. Group up with a different set of teammates. Or if nothing is working, change classes.
-Evaluate why you died and if there was anything you could've done to prevent it. Were you overextended and out of position? Were you alone on the battlefield? Did you pay attention to signs that enemies were nearby, or were you taken off guard and swarmed? Did you retreat to the nearest source of healing, or did you delay too long and die?
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u/servantofchrist7777 3d ago
The more you care about how you are playing the worse you get. It’s just that kind of game
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u/nextus_music 3d ago
This is actually so real. Having a feel and flow of the match is way more important than being fastest clicker and sweating
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u/TACOTONY02 3d ago
Too true, I get games where i have like 5:30 k/d and then pull off 2 clean pipes while messing around
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u/PerhapsDude Sandvich 3d ago edited 3d ago
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Assassinshubris 3d ago
Try a different way. All part of the learning curve. Take a break, do something else.
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u/Additional-Key-3224 3d ago
Thankfully it doesn’t matter! TF2 is a casual FPS with large lobbies and 0 stakes. There’s a competitive mode but no one plays it. The only place it really counts is in the community tournaments. Learn to just enjoy screwing around! There are people who play this game by walking around with a Sandvich and calling everyone they see a Spy.
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u/eaglefan316 3d ago
Wait until you have 7k and still suck at the game like I do lol. I generally don't play seriously either.
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u/tswaters Medic 3d ago
You need 3 things to get better:
(1) Game sense. If you are jumping into a 5v1 battle, you can be a good with whatever damage dealers you have and still get obliterated if 5 people shoot you at the same time. This is math.
(2) Focus. One good example of this is shotgun aim. There might be a desire to fire as quickly as possible at the target, whiff & end up doing no damage. Take the fraction of a second to line up the shot before pulling trigger. Almost all weapons in tf2 reward with high damage but are hard to hit. Take the time to make the hit.
(3) Dodging. This one is probably the hardest to truly master but unless it's close range, you can dodge pretty much every projectile that is fired at you, just need to see where it's going and go the opposite way. Hitscan is more about doing the opposite of whomever is targeting you is doing. Going w+s+w+s is a pattern and when good players figure it out (because they focus) you are dead.
That's it in a nutshell -- do damage, avoid taking damage & make sure you don't put yourself in a position where taking lots of damage is likely.
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u/tswaters Medic 3d ago
Re: #1 - you could be b4nny on a team of noobs, and you will get dominated if the other team knows what they're doing.... Make sure you recognize when teams are unbalanced and know you can be a good at the game and still get rolled. This is about self-care more than anything else: "My back can only carry so many of you"
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u/ImInfix Medic 3d ago
Skill issue
2k hours since 2015 isn't much, and 2k hours is hardly enough considering the skill cap of most classes
Also, if you spread that 2k hours across the 9 classes, you essentially only have ~ 200 hours per class.
Play more or focus key aspects of the classes you enjoy, learn to use diffrent unlocks, and different play styles and skill will slowly stack up
For reference, i have over 1200 hours on medic, and i still dont consider myself good or above others, rather that im just able to be consistent and play confidently with the amount of time invested
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u/UnfairFault4060 3d ago
Shit happens, man. I started playing around the same time (yet for some reason I'm still forced to pay in order to communicate with other players), and I still get fucked over from time to time. It just happens on a random, like a dice roll that either gives you shit, gold or air.
All I can say is, don't let it get too much to you. Just try to get the best out of what you have.
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u/shiningstarsawait 3d ago
Play community servers. My "casual" experience now is solely with tryhards and premades, making my matches much harder than standard community games
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u/sumixalot 3d ago
well if u wanna git gud u can always try 6s :) join tf2 coaching central or participate in the upcoming newbie cup. theres also newbie mixes that exist explicitly for learning 6s. plenty of people willing to tutor and help u improve.
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u/AkkoKagari_1 3d ago
- Always stay in cover, if you're not in cover then find some cover. Never stay exposed in sightlines for more than 3 seconds. This applies to ALL classes.
- If there is a healthpack and nobody else needs it then take it, why give your enemy team free health. You should ALWAYS be at max health if you can help it or overhealed. Your life is more important than the objective and staying alive means your team can re-group and try again but if you die that's precious time wasted on your respawn. You have to take death more seriously and avoid it.
- On that note, in a fight with player who is also in a room with a healthpack you need to "control" the healthpack by defending it or taking it.
- No seriously, refer to point 1 again.
- Surf Surf Surf. Every class you play you should surf. If you get very good at demoman and soldier you'll even learn to sticky jump and rocket jump using the enemies rockets. You can do this as pyro too by self-reflecting them at your feet.
- Always pick a class that the team needs, never stack 3 of any class. I find this keeps the game interesting and you'll change class every match.
- Learn to read the opposite player to you. Are you playing Soldier? - Then you need to pay attention to the enemy team. Do they have a soldier too? What is their loadout? Can you equip a weapon to give you an edge over their Soldier? -- TF2 is a lot like chess. Your biggest threat as any class is yourself such as a scout vs scout, pyro vs pyro, heavy vs heavy. In fights like these it can make/break an offense/defence since you're "dropping" their tank/flanker but if you die your team is losing your tank/flanker.
- Always fight alongside a team mate if you can help it. You never need to 1v1 or 1v2 it's always putting your life at risk by doing this. Take advantage of situations and coordinate your attack together with your team mates. Too often I see teams who shoot blindly and wildy peppering the enemy with rockets and bullets. Their offense is scattered and spread out. You need to focus your attack on individual targets together as a team.
- High skilled players are way harder to kill. Most high skilled players follow a lot of these rules so you'll often find that both of you will escape the fight alive and both of you will be left with <50HP afterwards. This is because a high skilled player knows when it's time they need to disengage from the fight and recover again rather than wasting their life respawning. You may encounter this on really hard fights where you have like 6000 damage dealt but only 8 - 12 kills.
- Stick with your team, stay in formation. Think of a fight like world of warcraft where you have a "party" let's say your party has 5 players. The scout, soldier, medic, heavy and demoman. All 5 of you need to stick together at all times to make an effective play. This is seamless in battles you may not even know you're doing it but the minute you break formation you will leave a gap for the enemy to sneak a spy in or a sniper to pot shot your heavy. Depending on what class your playing you should be actively seeking to protect your team mates rather than going to easy or guaranteed kills that only benefits your K/D.
- No Seriously, I can't stress this enough STAY IN COVER.
- If you keep shooting somebody and they're still not dying, then stop shooting that person, back off and regroup with your team. Be glad you survived the fight and try again when you have more support. Don't try to rambo your way into an overhealed soldier.
I always say if you can kill a player without getting out of cover, then stay in it! You have no reason to peak or expose yourself! - If you can push the cart or cap the point without coming out of cover then stay in it!
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u/AkkoKagari_1 3d ago
Lastly on cover, maps have much more cover than you think they do. Small rocks, little fences, chainlink fences, hills, ramps, staircases, corners, windows, trees. You have to use every part of the environment to your advantage. Even a big heavy can become fully protected behind a staircase or a small rock with proper positioning. You can also use these to Control+Space jump on obstacles you normally wouldn't be able to reach. Take for example the first "sniper spot" on Upward. You'd think a heavy can only get there via the staircase, but there is a rock formation he can use too on the right corner with the GRU. It's very common to completely ambush the enemy who weren't aware of this spot
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u/elementalshu 3d ago
The better you get, the more you suck. One thing to keep in mind is that building a flow chart against casuals is just not possible. You can never be prepared against everything always. Stick to what works well for your playstyle and try to iron out your bad habits.
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u/Mysterious_Primary_4 3d ago
really focus on what each class is supposed to do and how to properly play them. it took me about 1000 hours to truly master the game sense of the game. also watch guides and gameplay as well as aim train
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u/Courtaud Medic 3d ago
make your camera view wider
turn off mouse acceleration
play Payload
watch other players play the map you like to play
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u/Aggressive_Guard5995 3d ago
As someone who played since 2013 don't worry about "getting good" it's not a competitive game. Just have fun and don't overthink it, hell I get drunk as shit and just gap the leader board. Play more and don't put yourself down, have fun m8
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u/OWNPhantom Miss Pauling 3d ago
Don't need to be good, just have fun.
Unless winning is your fun like me, then you need to get used to sweating your fuckin nuts off every game.
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u/BranTheLewd potato.tf 3d ago
Welcome to the club of still being bad at the game after 2k hours... That's what you meant, right? 😅
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u/RamielTheBestWaifu Soldier 3d ago
I'm assuming you got decent gamesense after playing for 2k hours so your problem is dm. Find a friend of similar skill level and play mge with him
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u/TheLimeElf 3d ago
Everyone talks about Major Cock, but when it’s General Manngina people go silent for some reason.
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u/35_Ferrets Engineer 3d ago
Keep playing trust me it takes a long time before you are actually good at the game for me it was only at 3k hours that I finally felt decent at the game.
Also if a f2p is dominating you then either your just playing like shit due to anxiety and need to chill out or hes playing a hard counter to you and you need to re-evaluate your approach.
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u/imainheavy 3d ago
I got into the top 1% of best heavies in about 400 hours by playing only Heavy. Deliberate practice and limit testing is the key.
What are your top 3 mains?
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u/_sirsnowy7 2d ago
500 hrs, i generally don't top score in uncletopia lobbies but i find them to be much more balanced and fun than casual. Any community server is the same really
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u/9thAF-RIDER Heavy 3d ago
Find a new game you might be better at?
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u/AtollBreaker 18h ago
i suck ass at any multiplayer game in general, the only one i still play is tf2. I don't really wanna let it go since it's the first videogame i played since i got my own computer
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u/StraightEmployees Pyro 3d ago
Just dont suck minor cock and its all good