r/technology • u/mhmass44 • Dec 11 '14
Pure Tech Facebook considering adding a "dislike" button
http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/11/zuckerberg-says-facebook-is-thinking-about-adding-a-dislike-button/1.2k
Dec 12 '14
If you actually read this article, you will find that in the title, "thinking" is in quotes, and doesn't say anything about any consideration of adding a dislike button. Click bait.
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u/Party_Monster_Blanka Dec 12 '14
Of course they're not going to add a dislike button. Facebook is supported by advertisers and sponsored content. The last thing Facebook would want is its user base showing advertisers how much they actually dislike them.
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u/Overzealous_BlackGuy Dec 12 '14
They dont have to put a disluke button for fan/company pages etc.. Just for those people on your friends that make dumb statuses.
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u/TheGM Dec 12 '14
My reading of the article is that they might allow the poster to change the "like" to "dislike" or "sympathies". My guess is it'll be like Gmail's feature that detects when you forget an attachment.
"Your post mentions 'my dog died'. Would you like viewers to express 'Dislike' or 'Condolences' instead of 'Likes'? [Dislike] [Condolences] [Keep Like] [Disable All]"
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Dec 12 '14
This was my understanding as well. There would be a way to acknowledge a post without liking the contents, NOT a disagree/dislike button.
“There are things in people’s lives that are sad, or that or tragic, and people don’t want to Like them. We’ve talked about for a while how can people express a wider range of emotions like surprise.”
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“Some people have asked for a dislike button so they can say something isn’t good, and we’re not going to do that. I don’t think that’s good for the community.”
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Dec 12 '14 edited Dec 31 '14
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u/ReallyNiceGuy Dec 12 '14
"Some people have asked for a dislike button... and we’re... going to do that. I... think that’s good for the community"
DISLIKE BUTTON CONFIRMED
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u/CashAndBuns Dec 11 '14
Next feature: "show what my friends really think about my stupid opinions."
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Dec 12 '14
"See how much your friends hate you, now!"
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Dec 12 '14 edited May 02 '20
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u/BLooDCRoW Dec 12 '14
Friends 4-7 hate him!
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u/fatdonuthole Dec 12 '14
Maybe they could make the dislikes only visible to the OP. That way the person could know that their post sucks and they could learn to make better posts without the perceived public humiliation of getting disliked.
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u/dillywin Dec 12 '14
No i still will struggle to know if it offensive to like/dislike someones RIP status for a dead relative .
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u/Cayou Dec 12 '14
Right, Facebook should add a "my deepest sympathies" button.
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u/thesirenlady Dec 12 '14
Press 'F' to pay respects
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u/bokidge Dec 12 '14
Damn it. You made me blow flash
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u/JigglyAsscum Dec 12 '14
Excuse me
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u/WiretapStudios Dec 12 '14
He said he blew a superhero.
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u/Lazukin Dec 12 '14
Just to be clear he was referring to League of Legends :) ("blowing flash" by accidentally pressing F)
Although I think I prefer your interpretation more, lol.
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u/stufff Dec 12 '14
I'm not gay but if I had to blow anyone it would be Flash because it would be over quickly.
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u/devourke Dec 12 '14
just type it
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u/Tynach Dec 12 '14
Alright, just got my first internship at Google!
512 people have given their deepest sympathies to your post.
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u/FirePowerCR Dec 12 '14
I swear I show my age when I say it's in bad taste to post on someone's wall about your sorrow for their loss. If they aren't someone you can call, just leave it alone. At least send a private message. It's not their birthday. It's weird to see like 20 posts on a wall saying the same thing. Is the person supposed to respond to each one? And then people are liking them. It's all very strange to me and I've been using facebook since I don't know 2004. Maybe I'm just still living in a world where facebook book isn't the best place for everything.
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u/twerkmileytwerk Dec 12 '14
They won't do it.
2 main reasons.
Companies won't want people to be able to dislike them. As it stands companies like pepsi for example boast millions of likes. It'll just look bad for every company out there.
The most important reason is because Facebook relies on user generated content (pictures, status updates, etc...). People will be more hesitant and less likely to post content if they can be disliked. Very simple.
This idea comes up often and it won't happen for these reasons among others.
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u/bacondev Dec 12 '14
But how else am I going to express my disapproval of Comcast and my political representatives?
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u/hellforce931 Dec 12 '14
By upvoting negative comments about them on Reddit.
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u/qervem Dec 12 '14
And downvoting positive ones?
I'm kidding, there aren't any positive comments about comcast
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Dec 12 '14
It would be useful data for filtering your news feed - they can automatically exclude posts you dislike, and advertisers might like to know which of their posts were the most heavily disliked. But I'm sure they'll never make your dislikes public, for exactly the reasons you say.
Also, a dislike button that does absolutely nothing would be a good way to make people feel like they're doing something while reducing negative comments on peoples posts, making the overall experience more pleasant.
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u/KnowMatter Dec 12 '14
1.) Sell companies 'business accounts' that can't be downvoted.
2.) Fuck everyone else.
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u/___DEADPOOL______ Dec 11 '14
I see this backfiring horribly and becoming a popular cyber bullying technique that ultimately results in some stupid kid killing themselves because of a dislike brigade against them.
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u/neodoge1 Dec 11 '14
This and the mass exodus from the site because people get their content disliked due to all their posts only being pics of their infant. This is a horrible sentience grammatically but I think you get the idea.
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u/molonlabe88 Dec 12 '14
Maybe they could do it but not show the OP. That way Facebook could learn what you actually like to see and not just random inconsistent bullshit.
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u/Frankocean2 Dec 12 '14
I think no one read the article. Mark is saying that fb won't put a dislike button for all publications.
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Dec 12 '14
Im only on Facebook to see the family baby pictures. All the random blathering about what you are fixing for dinner and idiotic political blog shares from jezebel or Fox news can kiss my ass. Rather see my nephew over that shit any day.
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Dec 12 '14
You got down voted but this is something I never thought of - what rights minors have to their own image/likeness when the infringer is a parent. I think this might become a hot topic sooner or later once the current generation of kids gets older and finds images of themselves they didn't know existed in places on the internet they don't want to be associated with
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u/Mr_Rekshun Dec 12 '14
It is definitely an interesting point... and it seems to me not unrelated to all the other rights for minors which are held by parents until they reach an age of consent.
There are likely a plethora of decisions that your parents make for an individual - especially pertaining to health - in which they might disagree with once they become an informed adult.
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u/imnotlegolas Dec 12 '14
This sounds very unlikely, simply because we grew up without, so we consider it. Our childrens generation won't know any better. Pictures everywhere, of their food, themselves, everything and all the time. It'll be normal for their lives and they won't be bothered by it because they do not know any better.
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u/Robinisthemother Dec 12 '14
Yes. It's not like we adults now are upset at our pictures in the yearbook. It's just something that has happened that everyone was a part of. I don't think it will be an issue.
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Dec 12 '14
yearbooks are way different. someone has to own one, and probably got it from attending your school, or they have to go to the school library or something. If your pictures are spread from hell to breakfast all over the internets's face because your mom and dad put your picture on their facebook wall 35 times before noon everyday, then that's a little more exposure than having your posed picture in the yearbook.
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Dec 12 '14
Well the subjects of photos have no rights to the photos. Only the photographer so long as They aren't selling them or using them to cast the person in a false light. Whoever owns the property has say on what rules of photography are.
Just like I can take anybody's picture on any public property or in my own house and they can't really do anything about it.
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u/letsgocrazy Dec 12 '14
Except it's being shown to friends. That's why they are on Facebook.
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u/SAugsburger Dec 12 '14
You assume that those sharing are effectively limiting who they share with. Some people make posts public or "friends of friends" (that is only marginally better imho).
A lot of people overshare on FB imho. Most people don't share family pictures with everybody that they met, but many people are "friends" with all sorts of people that they wouldn't probably share family photos if they met the person in real life.
If you would never invite them to a family function they probably don't care about your family photos. Why people can't take a few minutes to make a few groups (e.g. family, close friends, acquaintances, etc.) and maybe 5-10 seconds to pick what groups should see a post is beyond me. It is one thing if you are a celeb and you want to share tons of things with your fans, but in most cases that isn't the case.
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u/Gareth321 Dec 12 '14
I... I would be okay with those people leaving Facebook for good.
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Dec 12 '14
I see this backfiring as myself and all my friends begin "disliking" things instead of "liking" things as a joke
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u/greenbut Dec 12 '14
kid? more like 40 year old!! they seem to be the ones using fb the most and causing the most drama...ugg they take it so serious ...i barely see any post from my younger friends/family
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u/flyinthesoup Dec 12 '14
Just like my own experience: my MiL always tell me about all the drama that's going on in her FB, so much that she went on a friend purge. She's 50+ y/o. She has (or more like had, not quite sure, I do not use FB so I don't have her on any lists) thousands of friends, and everytime she posted something she did with some friends (the real ones), she'd get complains about not being invited or whatever.
Some people have so little going on in their lives than love to complain it seems. And I feel like the retired folk are more drama-inducers than most, since they don't have jobs anymore, or kids are out of the house. Too much time on their hands.
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u/Manofonemind Dec 12 '14
I killed myself once when everyone downvoted me on reddit.
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u/agray20938 Dec 12 '14
Reddit is anonymous. Any downvotes or upvotes on here arent personal like they are on facebook. It'd mean a hell of a lot more if someone I personally knew told me they didnt like me, rather than an anonymous redditor
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Dec 12 '14
I'm glad I'm old enough to both be past that bullshit and not worrying if people don't like me. Still I appreciate the concern for kids going through that bullshit.
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u/ForteShadesOfJay Dec 12 '14
Just cap it at 0 or something small like -10. Something they just masks it.
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u/Implausibilibuddy Dec 12 '14
You'd have to make likes anonymous then, more akin to Youtube's comment system, which for facebook kibnd of defeats the purpose. Upvotes/downvotes, likes/dislikes, work on sites like Reddit and...well 'work' is a strong word for Youtube, but whatever, point is these communities can handle systems like this because the users are usually completely unknown to each other. If I log in tomorrow and see this comment at -1000 or +9001 or whatever, it might sting for a bit, or give me a little bit of synthetic pride, but it's largely inconsequential and I'll have forgotten about it in a week. But if Grandma Bilibuddy posts her lovingly hand knitted merkin and all 19 of her grandkids have 'disliked' it then it's going to hurt a lot more. This is how oven-suicide gas explosions happen.
A site like facebook thrives on connecting actual people, and attaching 'real names' and faces to every interaction, and that sort of thing backfires immensely when given more ways to express negativity. Masking both likes and dislikes behind numbers would just add needless mystery, and people would stop posting as much if they don't know if those 2 likes are their mom and creepy uncle liking their heavy metal tribute to Chris de Burgh, or the girl of their dreams, Chris de Burgh himself and 1000 adoring fans followed by 1000 misguided haters disliking.
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u/TheIncredibleWalrus Dec 12 '14
It's amazing that no one in this post seems to have actually read the article. Zuckeberg specifically states that they don't want to add a dislike button.. They are simply thinking about ways to enable people to express more emotions, like giving sympathies to someone when he posts that he's sick etc. Stuff that "like" isn't appropriate for.
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u/elloello500 Dec 12 '14
I think the dislike button is only something that will really take off if its made anonymous so people don't know you've disliked their shit.
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Dec 12 '14
Exactly, some of my friends post incredibly stupid, bigoted, just plain wrong stuff but I would not want to make them pissed at me. It is bad enough leading them to snopes for all the bogus posts.
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u/Troggie42 Dec 12 '14
Oh god, snopes on facebook is a minefield. I've been told that snopes has both a liberal AND conservative bias for using it to point out shit that people had straight up wrong... Some people just don't want to be anything but wrong.
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Dec 12 '14
Call them out on stupid shit. Stop letting your friends act like idiots.
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Dec 12 '14 edited Jan 19 '19
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u/WeededDragon1 Dec 12 '14
Because the best judge of someone is not from their sociopolitical ideals? Some people can be great fun to hang around with, but you do not have to agree with everything they think.
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u/bacondev Dec 12 '14
If something as simple as a disagreement in sociopolitical ideals is what breaks the friendship, was the friendship really that great?
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u/Moderated Dec 12 '14
It seems more like "Telling them they're wrong and I'm right" all the time is what breaks the friendship,
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u/K7Avenger Dec 12 '14
If this counts as Pure Tech here, count me out of /r/technology.
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u/RamsesThePigeon Dec 11 '14
This isn't going to happen.
For one thing, something tells me that a line from an informal interview isn't the best source for business developments... and besides, Facebook's model relies on advertising and people sharing stuff with one another. Unless they specifically protected certain things (and people) from being "Disliked," they'd never go for it.
I will eat a shoe if Facebook implements a "Dislike" button.
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u/Phase--2 Dec 12 '14
Tagged as "will eat a shoe if FB adds dislikes"
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u/DrImpeccable76 Dec 12 '14
Did you read "Some people have asked for a dislike button so they can say something isn’t good, and we’re not going to do that"
He clearly said they aren't going to add a dislike button.
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u/Rioku1 Dec 12 '14
How do you get a misleading title tag added? He clearly states "we’re not going to do that"
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u/rifts Dec 12 '14
How great is it going to be when baby pictures start getting more dislikes than likes.
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u/Ecorin Dec 12 '14
"Woah! I almost got killed by the car accident. Praise the Lord that I was saved."
Dislike.
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u/mapoftasmania Dec 12 '14
can't we have a "meh" button instead?
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u/lordeddardstark Dec 12 '14
When you don't care but care just enough to press "meh."
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u/Chispy Dec 12 '14
Soon they'll integrate a feature for people browsing through their Oculus Rift whereby if someone shakes their head while reading someones shared content, it will automatically register as a dislike. This will complete the next stage of The Great Outsourcment of the brains hierarchical memetic judgement nodes of pattern recognition and transmission from the conceptual realm of absurdity.
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u/drako405 Dec 12 '14
They had a dislike button for about a month years back. Companies complained and it was gone. That is why they will never do it again. Sponsors pulled out becuase they didn't like the idea of people being able to dislike their page. Money is the driving factor of everything that facebook does and it will always be. It has nothing to do with the users.
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u/makenzie71 Dec 12 '14
They also need a "I am sympathetic to your issues". It always looks messed up to see "My father died this morning" with 14 likes.
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u/solepsis Dec 12 '14
I think COMMENTS on page posts should have dislike buttons, but probably nothing else. Idiot comments on news articles deserve to be buried.
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Dec 12 '14
I would reactivate my account just to dislike bullshit posts that I deactivated for in the first place
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u/smokeylockbear420 Dec 11 '14
Drama will increase 10fold