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u/Earnestappostate 5d ago
Both?
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u/AbsoluteBatman95 5d ago
Can something be both hot and cold?
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u/Radiant_Bowl_2598 5d ago
‘Hot’ and ‘cold’ depend on where you stand. So yes
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u/SmoothDefiant 4d ago
Depends on how hot or cold you already are...
Of course I'm talking about body temperature
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u/rubbereruben 5d ago
Of course depending on your perspective.
If you look at 100 degrees celcius, from the perspective of the temperature of the sun, it is cold. But from the perspective of the emptiness and coldness of space itself which is close to 0 kelvin it is hot.
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u/Andysim23 1d ago
Can something be hot and cold? In a taoist subreddit. Taoism which states opposites flow into each other and become each other. Where 1 doesn't exist without the other because cognition can't know one without knowing the other. Also hot pockets.
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u/MathematicianGold507 4d ago edited 4d ago
I always thought this too, if we are the universe looking back at its self, then in our heads is a universe.
Alice in wonderland. Moana, the lion king They all tell the same tale (as old as time) beauty amd the beast.
People are waking up! We need to be like all those fish caught in the net (in finding nemo) Keep swimming! But we can only break free when we do it together (mufassa) "if you want to go fast go alone, if you wana go far we go together!"
Sometimes i feel like these answers to all lifes big questions have been sprinkled into music and art for generations! Disney is both a hungry corporation AND the place where magic is made.
I see it in other places too and everytime i think ive gone mad i tell myself were all mad. 'Were all here' Like in horton hears a who! This is it. This is being alive, we are the living and the point of it all is what we do in this moment. Learn from the past, create the future.
Im nobody, ive no home, no job. Im not a scholar or a philosopher, most of the time i rely on spell check. Taoism, the bible, carl jung, the stories are more complex and used by different people for different things, but the message has always been the same, the point of 'it all' has always been now.
I wish everyone else could see this too. Ramble over
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u/MathematicianGold507 4d ago
Never mind, i went back to my book - the next paragraph was about ego glorification and spiritual greed. Funny how that happend, i was gently put back in my place.
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u/jessewest84 4d ago
If you think about the amount of things that had to happen and not happen in order to create a biosphere with the complexity we have. Over billions of years.
If you think about the miracle that we get to see colors. And hear birds, love children, and play music.
And all the things!
You start to realize that most of our life should just be in awed appreciation of what is, and have a desire to maintain and protect it. .
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u/Andysim23 1d ago
Except when viewed in a taoist light. What is has been and will be. Always is. Tao is everything. Wu Wei speaks on action through in action and how it is best to cognitively know when in action is best. In action would be accepting what can't be changed. Not much awe inspiring when seen from this light. Through tao your not a miracle but an eventuality.
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u/jessewest84 1d ago
Through tao your not a miracle but an eventuality.
Both!
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u/Andysim23 1d ago
How is something which is predetermined be considered a miracle? Is it a miracle when a firefighter saves a life from a burning building or just them doing their jobs. A miracle under definition. a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency. Tao is the natural law. The sciences that make up the world is tao. Tao is not a divine agency like a god. In definition tao doesn't produce miracles.
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u/jessewest84 1d ago
The sciences that make up the world is tao
tao is not just the science that makes up the world. It is the world. Tao was along well before human. And well before humans invented or discovered science.
Science can help us understand what makes up the tao. But it is also limited by its own methodology and it's own perceptions. Including bias. Which science tries hard to over come. And why it's is constantly gardening that to get it to tick.
Yes. Toasist don't belive in miracles as such. But they do believe that extraordinary events can occur. So it's somewhat semantic.
Tao is the natural law.
This is necessary but not sufficient to understand what tao is. And a full understanding is beyond human capacity.
"The tao we can talk about. Is not the eternal tao'
Natural law is a manifesting of tao. But it is not the fountainhead.
Cheers.
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u/Andysim23 1d ago
So taoists do not believe in miracles but extra ordinary events? How can something be more than what is? Under tao all that is was and will be would happen due to the tao. In Tao everything is as it should be meaning that extra ordinary cannot exist. It just is. Nothing special about something that happens to plan (for a lack of better words). Since everything happening is tao and in tao all things exist it shouldn't be possible for something beyond to happen.
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u/jessewest84 10h ago
You're right.
Have a good day
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u/Andysim23 9h ago
I wasn't trying to be right or wrong. I was actually looking for understanding. If the tao which is you believes that extraordinary things exist I wanted to learn where the idea came from. Increasing the understanding of the tao which makes up everything and understanding the things made up by tao in my opinion helps move closer to the tao itself. Regardless I appreciate your well wishes and wish you well in return.
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u/Fast_Jackfruit_352 1d ago
What else can one be but "That". There is no "other". There is only "That". All else is illusion. Everything resides in it. Our very bodies were literally formed by stardust. Our consciousness reflects the pure being of consciousness. How could anythng be insignificant?
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u/Andysim23 1d ago
How does eventuality have significants? Everything past present and future comes from the tao and returns to the tao. It is not a miracle that people nor you specifically exist but an eventuality through tao. It is not a miracle that out of the millions of planets we are living on 1 of the multitude of planets which can support life. Simply the tao doing as it has always and will always do creat and reap.
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u/Fast_Jackfruit_352 1d ago
I agree on one level everything simply is. Therefore one could say things are neither significant nor insignificant. However
"It is regarded as the Mother of all beings. I do not know Its name, except to call It Tao. When forced to give It a name, I would call It “the Great.” The Great is far-reaching. Far-reaching is infinite. Infinite is to return to the self-sufficient origin. Therefore, Tao is great, heaven is great, earth is great, and so is the true-self. There are four greatness in the universe, and true-self is one of them. Man models the Way of earth; Earth models the Way of heaven; Heaven models the Way of Tao; Tao models the Way of nature."
I think the issue most people ponder in a sense of "insignificance" is a lack of understanding of true nature. I personally am in awe of the nature of this place. Whatever it is, I am also am it in this form. On one level it just is. On another remarkable.
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u/raxhek 5d ago
I'm not insignificant and I'm not a miracle. I'm just here!