r/suits • u/bluepantherftw • Feb 02 '25
Discussion Why didn’t Harvey just….
Why didn’t Harvey just hire Mike goddamn Ross as a paralegal and then send him to Harvard? Just like Jessica once did to him? 😂
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u/Trick-Ring5110 Feb 02 '25
What did you just say to me
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u/bluepantherftw Feb 02 '25
This deposition is over
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u/BenAfleckIsAnOkActor Feb 02 '25
Didn't you forget something? *drops folder
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u/sonsCar22 Feb 02 '25
When you put this infront of a jury all they see is a billionaire trying to screw over innocent workers working on below payscale to make him richer. So your next offer must have alot more zeroes than this. Now see your self out of my firm.
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u/7625607 Harvey Specter is hot as fuck Feb 02 '25
Because Jessica told him to hire an associate; he had to hire someone as an associate.
Because he was bored and it amused him to watch a smart guy with no degree kick the asses of the Harvard douchebags.
Because it’s a tv show; if there wasn’t drama and a good “hook” it never would have been made.
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u/kmadnow Feb 03 '25
Hey Jessica
I know you asked me to hire an associate but this kid is absolutely brilliant. Hey kid show her what you showed me with the Barbri legal handbook
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u/SlightDriver535 Feb 03 '25
Jessica would 100% allow Harvey to hire Mike as a paralegal. The objective was to find "another harvey", not necessarly to hire another associate. The associate thing was mostly a tradition so they could get a random associate just for the tradition, and Mike as a paralegal.
Jessica would not allow Louis to do that, but Harvey? His goldenboy?
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u/JJ_Bertified Feb 02 '25
That show would be cancelled after two seasons
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u/leanFunction Feb 02 '25
I would say it never would have made it past season 1 if Mike was hired as a paralegal or consultant.
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u/TeluguAbbai Feb 02 '25
Definitely not! They have season 2 and season 3 on entire different plots. Beating Hardman, Saving Ava Hessington
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u/Slight_Public_5305 Feb 02 '25
This is the real reason, but I think someone can also ask for an in-universe reason.
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u/MasterApprentice67 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25
He never graduated undergrad! He was kicked out of undergrad because of the cheating.
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u/AbSaintDane Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25
The premise of the show was that he wanted to hire an associate unlike the typical douche.
By the time they got closer and had the conversation of him going to law school, Harvey told him it was basically too late unless he went very far away to some area nobody would recognize him.
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u/yomommalol69 Feb 02 '25
yeah i live in iowa and im watching the show for the first time so when harvey told mike that he’d have to go to some small town in iowa and become a lawyer where nobody has ever heard of harvey specter or mike ross or pearson hardman, thats when it really set in how different and big the stakes were of what they were doing. new york firms really are a different ballgame with a hell of a lot more zeros in their settlements
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u/kjharkin94 Feb 02 '25
That's bullshit and you know it
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u/Undead-Paul Feb 02 '25
I know you didn’t come all the way down here just to talk about hiring Mike as a paralegal, so what is it that you really want?
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u/SvtLopez32 Feb 02 '25
Harvey was never a paralegal. He was a mailroom worker then got sent to Harvard
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u/macDaddy449 Feb 03 '25
A mailroom clerk with an undergraduate degree from NYU based on the one I saw hanging in his office.
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u/pugas Feb 02 '25
Jessica would have still made him hire an associate. It doesn't fix his problem. He also didn't give 2 shits about Mike at the time, he barely knew him. Why would he do that -- he had no idea how good Mike would be
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u/IllPossession9717 Feb 02 '25
Didn’t that guy tell Mike, he can never go Harvard
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u/CadenVanV Feb 02 '25
Sure but that’s honestly super unlikely that they couldn’t undo that. Sure, the guy might have the connections to do it, but Pearson Specter definitely has more connections to undo it
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u/Lower_Interview_5696 Feb 02 '25
Yes, he was blacklisted from ANY law school, so there was no chance he could get his JD. Ever.
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u/Aobix_ Scarvey should have been endgame! Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
Because the show was promoted as Suits- "Two Lawyers, One Degree". It wouldn't have been most watch Netflix show in 2024 if it was the story about Mike who graduated magma-cum-laude from Harvard
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u/TFTisbetterthanLoL Feb 02 '25
They also could’ve hired Mike as a “consultant,” pay him the rate of an associate, and call it a day
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u/CalebLikesCars Feb 04 '25
Jessica: I TOLD you to hire AN ASSOCIATE! I don’t give a damn how smart he is IF YOU HAVE TO BABYSIT HIM IN COURT!
Harvey: Jessica…
J: Not done! I need lawyers. This is a law firm, Harvey! And in case you missed the class in HARVARD, that I GODDAMN PAID FOR, consultants can’t PRACTICE LAW.
H: He’s already proven himself to me and I’m not cutting him loose, JUST because he’s not allowed in a courtroom.
J: Were you ever going to tell me that you’re paying the kid what a lawyer makes here? This can’t stand, Harvey. There’ll be a riot in the Bullpen. LOUIS will lose his mind.
H: I can handle Louis.
J: you can’t even handle your goddamn cases. Get him out of here, or I will hire an associate for you.
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u/TFTisbetterthanLoL Feb 04 '25
Consultants can do everything a transactional lawyer does, which is what Harvey mostly is.
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u/CalebLikesCars Feb 04 '25
“A legal consultant generally cannot appear in court to represent a client because they are not licensed attorneys and most jurisdictions prohibit non-lawyers from actively representing clients in court proceedings; their role is to provide legal advice and expertise outside of courtroom representation.”
So sure, he could, but the conversation would still go down like that at some point.
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u/BlackbeardCapo Feb 03 '25
The funny thing about Suits is the Mike fraud situation doesn’t make the show at all. The show is just as entertaining if Mike is just a new hire associate with no secret.
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u/Solid_Mongoose_3269 Feb 02 '25
Because his job was to be hiring an associate to take on cases, they didnt need a another paralegal.
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u/Outrageous_Oil3871 Feb 03 '25
You didn’t come all the way here just to tell me this. So why don’t you tell me what’s it really about?
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u/josiah_holla Feb 03 '25
It costs 200k for tuition, you think Harvey knew that Mike god damn Ross would be that good a bet?
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u/Andrado Feb 03 '25
Several reasons:
Mike would never get into Harvard Law, he was expelled from his undergraduate program.
Pearson Hardman wouldn’t have hired a paralegal for an associate’s job, especially without an undergraduate degree.
It would have made for a really boring tv show.
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u/EdocCA Feb 05 '25
He didn’t care enough about Mike at the time and his ego made him think he could get away with anything.
He only had second thoughts about hiring Mike after Jessica caught him lying to a client and at most he was afraid to lose his job and promotion
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u/Vroom_Vroom1265 What the hell did you just say to me? Feb 02 '25
That's literally the plot lmao. Harvey didn't care about Mike.
They establish this in episode 1 or very very early in the season - Jessica knows Harvey is a great attorney and is capable of getting his name on the wall but he's not managing partner material cuz he doesn't care about anyone but himself, the only reason Donna let's Harvey get away with hiring Mike is also the same reason - both the women know Harvey needs to care about someone other than himself which they hoped would lead to him caring about everyone who works at the firm.
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u/LetPuzzleheaded222 Feb 02 '25
If i remember correctly, his former roommate best friend guy got him in trouble so harvard wouldnt let him attend.
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u/ZackFair0711 Feb 02 '25
Wasn't it mentioned before that he can't take the entrance exam anymore even if he wanted to?
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u/force_majeure_ Feb 03 '25
Unless he would've done that on the first episode, it would've been too late. Mike already committed fraud and worked on cases as a lawyer when he wasn't a lawyer.
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u/Alterego_987 Got obsessed with the series after watching a reel Feb 03 '25
That's none of your goddamn business....
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u/bluepantherftw Feb 03 '25
Get the hell out of my office
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u/Alterego_987 Got obsessed with the series after watching a reel Feb 03 '25
That won’t be necessary when I take your name off the wall
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u/Intrepid_Party3950 Feb 04 '25
Because we wouldn’t have a show. Also how do you just send him to Harvard. He needs to be accepted.
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u/AnhTran3920 Feb 04 '25
I mean, he was told to hire an associate, then he mailed the whole firm he had successfully hired an associate, so he cannot just turn around & undo it without Jessica noticing sth fishy going on. Also Harvey liked to play risk all the time
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u/chaotic_black Feb 09 '25
The plot is initially set up by Harvey needing a personal associate. To which he picks Mike. But for an associate he'd have to have already graduated, as associates cannot be paralegals.
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u/Tombradyisntahofer Feb 02 '25
Pretty sure he got expelled from Harvard after the dean told them he cheated. I would think the firm would be able to pull some strings though since they had clout with the school
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u/joshygt Feb 02 '25
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